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samy0
Our cat just had 5 kittens. 3 black and 2 gray. Since i don't want to have 8 cats I would like to find some homes for the kittens before my kids become too attached.
All 5 are adorable. If anyone would like one I will personally deliver it too you.
feistyirishbabe
QUOTE (samy0 @ May 24 2005, 11:02 PM)
If anyone would like one I will personally deliver it too you.

even to Louisville? laugh.gif
samy0
QUOTE (feistyirishbabe @ May 25 2005, 12:26 AM)
QUOTE (samy0 @ May 24 2005, 11:02 PM)
If anyone would like one I will personally deliver it too you.

even to Louisville? laugh.gif

It might come to that if I can't get rid of them. if it was up to my wife and kids we'd keep them all but I know who gets to feed and clean up after them and its NOT my wife or kids laugh.gif


If I have to bring them to Louisville you are getting all 5!!!
Guest_sheash
We've got a new crop of barn kitties - you want about 12 more?
samy0
QUOTE (Guest_sheash @ May 25 2005, 07:12 AM)
We've got a new crop of barn kitties - you want about 12 more?

Looks like you and I will be driving all 17 to Louisville to give to FIB
laugh.gif laugh.gif


FIB>>> You will now be "The crazy cat lady" from Louisville biggrin.gif
Heather
Spay and neuter. Spay and neuter.
samy0
QUOTE (Heather @ May 25 2005, 09:17 AM)
Spay and neuter. Spay and neuter.

I know. Bob Barker tells me that everytime i watch the price is right. biggrin.gif
PHISH
Suggestion - The Herald Mail will allow you to print anything for FREE if you are giving it away for FREE (or at least they used to). So you should just put an ad in the Herald Mail for free kittens. This is how I got rid of my litter of kittens a few years ago. wink.gif
Yossarian
QUOTE (PHISH @ May 25 2005, 12:25 PM)
Suggestion - The Herald Mail will allow you to print anything for FREE if you are giving it away for FREE (or at least they used to). So you should just put an ad in the Herald Mail for free kittens. This is how I got rid of my litter of kittens a few years ago. wink.gif

I'm not sure if this is an urban legend or not, but I had heard that biological research companies comb the want ads for free animals so they can use them for research purposes. Sounds a little far-fetched, but at least possible.

let me repeat what Heather said:

Spay and neuter.
PHISH
QUOTE (Yossarian @ May 25 2005, 12:32 PM)
I'm not sure if this is an urban legend or not, but I had heard that biological research companies comb the want ads for free animals so they can use them for research purposes. Sounds a little far-fetched, but at least possible.

let me repeat what Heather said:

Spay and neuter.

Actually Yoss, I posted that in a thread a long time ago... I forget what the topic was, but I think we all came to the conclusion that it's a little far-fetched, and most people looking for free kittens, are looking for a new house pet, but you never know.
peacefrog
QUOTE (Heather @ May 25 2005, 01:17 PM)
Spay and neuter. Spay and neuter.

x a bazillion
Yossarian
Phish, just to let you know a little something about myself, people would probably refer to me as "that crazy cat guy". I've got 5 furry little kids of my own and treat every single one of them as family. Whenever I see a potential for a kitten/cat being mistreated it really breaks my heart. If I could, I would take every single kitten being advertised in this topic, but thankfully common sense still overrules my heart.

That's the only reason I repeated the concern. wink.gif
Naomi
Awww Yoss, you're so sweet!

And I just thought you were a mean ol' cop laugh.gif
Heather
QUOTE (Naomi @ May 25 2005, 01:07 PM)
And I just thought you were a mean ol' cop laugh.gif

laugh.gif !
Yossarian
Up against the wall, both of you! wink.gif laugh.gif
WVDragonlady
Up against the wall you redneck mothers....who wrote that?now it's looping in this garage I call a brain and won't stop!!! blink.gif

Got 4 of my own, otherwise I'd be taken 1 wink.gif 3 dogs too rolleyes.gif think I have enough critters for while. smile.gif
Guest_sheash
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Spay and neuter. Spay and neuter.


Sorry, folks, but I'm not paying $50 apiece to have barn cats spayed and/or neutered. We inherited the cats when we bought the house. I'm allergic to cats and don't want them back there to begin with, I'm certainly not going to pay money for them.

Yoss, you are welcome to come up and take all the barn cats you can catch! My neighbor is a dairy farmer, and he has 80 cats that "show up" at milking time. Otherwise, I have no idea where they hang out. You'd think the coyotes would catch some of them.....
Heather
QUOTE (Guest_sheash @ May 25 2005, 09:56 PM)
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Spay and neuter. Spay and neuter.


Sorry, folks, but I'm not paying $50 apiece to have barn cats spayed and/or neutered. We inherited the cats when we bought the house. I'm allergic to cats and don't want them back there to begin with, I'm certainly not going to pay money for them.

Yoss, you are welcome to come up and take all the barn cats you can catch! My neighbor is a dairy farmer, and he has 80 cats that "show up" at milking time. Otherwise, I have no idea where they hang out. You'd think the coyotes would catch some of them.....

Sorry honey, but if they are on your land, it's your responsibility. You don't have to pay to get them fixed. You're just too lazy or just don't care enough to deal with the problem. Call animal control and have them get rid of them. Call the humane society. God forbid you take it upon yourself to solve the problem going on right in your own back yard and load them all up and have the humane society euthanize them.

I love it. biggrin.gif

The classic case. Your mentality is the biggest part of the problem.
Snoopy
Or ya could call Wisconsin... wink.gif
PHISH
QUOTE (Yossarian @ May 25 2005, 12:59 PM)
Phish, just to let you know a little something about myself, people would probably refer to me as "that crazy cat guy". I've got 5 furry little kids of my own and treat every single one of them as family. Whenever I see a potential for a kitten/cat being mistreated it really breaks my heart. If I could, I would take every single kitten being advertised in this topic, but thankfully common sense still overrules my heart.

That's the only reason I repeated the concern. wink.gif

I hear ya Yoss. wink.gif I have 4 cats and 2 dogs - maybe I'm known as the "crazy pet lady"?? I would just hate to see the kittens go to the "humane" society, where they'll end up being euthanized anyway. Although, I think the pets that end up being euthanized are the older ones - I think the kittens/puppies are the first to go, but I don't know about that.

If I had a farm, I'd take every homeless cat I could (only after being neutered/spaid, of course), but in the real world, my home is maxed out. sad.gif
PHISH
This won't be funny unless you have the sound turned on (or to some, it may not be funny with the sound turned on either).

Kitty Cat Video
Naomi
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif It looks just like my cat!
Thanks Phish...I LOVE IT!
feistyirishbabe
QUOTE (samy0 @ May 25 2005, 03:11 AM)
QUOTE (feistyirishbabe @ May 25 2005, 12:26 AM)
QUOTE (samy0 @ May 24 2005, 11:02 PM)
If anyone would like one I will personally deliver it too you.

even to Louisville? laugh.gif

It might come to that if I can't get rid of them. if it was up to my wife and kids we'd keep them all but I know who gets to feed and clean up after them and its NOT my wife or kids laugh.gif


If I have to bring them to Louisville you are getting all 5!!!

ohh I feel your pain, tending to the animals always falls on me as well!

Whew 5 kittens at once?! I already have one that is about 13 weeks old & man she is quite the handful!
feistyirishbabe
QUOTE (samy0 @ May 25 2005, 07:24 AM)
QUOTE (Guest_sheash @ May 25 2005, 07:12 AM)
We've got a new crop of barn kitties - you want about 12 more?

Looks like you and I will be driving all 17 to Louisville to give to FIB
laugh.gif laugh.gif


FIB>>> You will now be "The crazy cat lady" from Louisville biggrin.gif

NOOOO! lol I love cats but yikes 17? blink.gif
I've owned as many as 5 at once and man that was alot of work!
mstubble
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Sorry, folks, but I'm not paying $50 apiece to have barn cats spayed and/or neutered. We inherited the cats when we bought the house. I'm allergic to cats and don't want them back there to begin with, I'm certainly not going to pay money for them.

Yoss, you are welcome to come up and take all the barn cats you can catch! My neighbor is a dairy farmer, and he has 80 cats that "show up" at milking time. Otherwise, I have no idea where they hang out. You'd think the coyotes would catch some of them.....


I agree with Heather; your property, your cats and your responsiblity. Plenty of vets offer special programs where they spay/neuter at a discount price. The SPCA also gives out discount certificates. But the responsibility doesn't stop there; they also need immunizations so they don't spread disease. Sounds like you need to call the SPCA and surrender the cats to them so they can come and get them and find them homes.
samy0
If I thought giving them to the shelter wasn't a death sentence I probably would. I've been here 2 years and our pet count has gone up to 2 dogs and 3 cats. All spayed and or neutered except for the 1 cat that had the kittens (dammit! never fails) She just showed up 1 day and started hanging around out front. Then something got a hold of her and of course my wife trying her best florence nightingale had to nurse her to health. 2 months later I've got kittens! Since we found her and started feeding her I guess shes ours. We put her and the kittens in the sunroom and they have been fine. It is my personal quest to find homes for all 5 of the kittens. I did find 1 vet who said they would take them and try to find homes for them but he couldn't guarantee that if he couldn't they wouldn't be sent to the shelter. Worst case scenario. i become crazy catman and have 8 really cool cats and 2 preturbed dogs biggrin.gif
Guest_sheash
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Sorry honey, but if they are on your land, it's your responsibility. You don't have to pay to get them fixed. You're just too lazy or just don't care enough to deal with the problem. Call animal control and have them get rid of them. Call the humane society. God forbid you take it upon yourself to solve the problem going on right in your own back yard and load them all up and have the humane society euthanize them.


Sorry, but I beg to differ with you - it's not my responsibility. I don't care for cats, and never once brought one to my property. I've brought 2 humans, 2 dogs, and 3 goats to my property, and try to coexist with whatever passes thru (bears, deer, skunks, possums, raccoons, coyotes) - remember, I live in the boonies. But the cats didn't pass thru - they decided to stay.

Neither the Humane Society or animal control will come get them; I've tried. No, I'm not lazy, I'm working very strenuously to avoid the temptation to "solve the problem going on in my own back yard" - with a .22. I really don't care whether you like my suggestion for controlling them or not.

Cats are nice animals when other people own them and they aren't tearing up my stuff and peeing all over it.
Guest_sheash
BTW - have any of y'all ever tried to catch a barn cat? It can't be safely done by hand, and the way they act when they are in a havaheart trap doesn't make me want to pick the trap up to put it into a truck. Not going to do it. blink.gif
Heather
QUOTE (Guest_sheash @ May 31 2005, 07:28 AM)
blah blah blah

Like I said, lazy and irresponsible.
Guest_sheash
Well, then why don't you help the kitties out and come get them? They need to move on SOON.
Heather
QUOTE (Guest_sheash @ May 31 2005, 10:03 AM)
Well, then why don't you help the kitties out and come get them? They need to move on SOON.

Gee, I guess you want me to mow your lawn and water your garden too? Pick up the trash out of the yard and trim the hedges?

Nah, it's your property. You are responsible for the nature and wildlife that exists upon it.
WVDragonlady
CAT FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wacko.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif
GMAN
Chinese Restaurant biggrin.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif
Yossarian
QUOTE (WVDragonlady @ May 31 2005, 11:30 AM)
CAT FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wacko.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Heather
This is not Word Association! tongue.gif
Guest_sheash
Wouldn't suggest you visit any chinese restaurants in Chambersburg anytime soon, then! 'Cause I'm going to take care of my property the same way I do when there's other undesirable "wildlife" on it. Yoss, you need any target practice?
Naomi
QUOTE (Heather @ May 31 2005, 01:30 PM)
This is not Word Association! tongue.gif

laugh.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif
mstubble
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Neither the Humane Society or animal control will come get them; I've tried.
I don't buy it; what did they tell you?

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BTW - have any of y'all ever tried to catch a barn cat?


Yes, sucessfully with traps.

I grew up on a farm. Yes the cats just showed up and stayed, but we still took care of them, had them spayed/neutered/shots and found any kittens homes.
Guest
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I don't buy it; what did they tell you?


The Cumberland Valley Animal Shelter and the Humane Society in Chambersburg both told me that if I trapped the cats and brought them in, they'd spay/neuter them for a fee, and they'd even loan me the traps. They both told me they would not come get them. That was a couple of years ago when we had about 20 of them.

I haven't asked since then, we just "control" the population by means of a well-placed shot.

I really don't care whether y'all believe me or not. I've tried to get rid of them, to no avail. And even if I was sucker enough to pay for spay/neutering all of these cats, the dairy farmer on the other side of the Turnpike had 80 stray cats last time he counted. So, y'all think I'm supposed to spay/neuter his 80 cats too to keep the population at my barn down?

I DON'T THINK SO!
mstubble
Pet Surrender

Please see this link for the surrender policy of the Cumberland Valley Animal Shelter. The Cumberland Valley Animal Shelter accepts stray, abandoned, and owner surrendered animals. If you have an animal which you are unable to keep for any reason, and you live in Northern Franklin County, you may call
the shelter about bringing in the animal.

Did you explain that they are not your cats and that they were there when you bought the place? Please call them again. If you won't, give me your name and address and I'll call for you. I will also pay for someone to remove them if you won't do it.

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I haven't asked since then, we just "control" the population by means of a well-placed shot.
In PA this is a misdemeanor of the second degree.

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And even if I was sucker enough to pay for spay/neutering all of these cats, the dairy farmer on the other side of the Turnpike had 80 stray cats last time he counted. So, y'all think I'm supposed to spay/neuter his 80 cats too to keep the population at my barn down?


If you spay ad neuter yours, it won't matter about the dairy farmer's cats; they won't be able to impregnante your spayed cats.

I am in the process of contacting the Cumberland Valley Animal Shelter to see what they can do.
Guest_sheash
Maybe that's the problem - I don't live in Northern Franklin County. I live in Southern Huntingdon County, and there's no listings in our phone book for a shelter or a Humane Society in our county - they point us to Franklin, who won't take them.
Guest_sheash
You're right - IF I were to spay/neuter the ones on my property, then they wouldn't be having litters. But what's to keep his cats from coming over here to have their litters?

The farm behind us has birds (chickens, guinea hens, & ducks) - there's always cats over here if they aren't at the dairy farm. So, the cats are still here on my ground - I'm not going to spay/neuter the entire population of cats in So. Huntingdon County so that they aren't peeing on my belongings!

The Game Warden is thru here all the time; but he's looking for deer poachers. I seriously doubt that any of the animal control folks in Cbg are going to come over here to "get" me for shooting feral cats. First of all, they'd have to stop at too many farms to charge too many folks for doing the same thing (it's basically S.O.P. here) before they ever got to my place, 2nd, they'd be out of their jurisdiction, and 3rd, they're askeered of us folks on this side of the big hill. We like it that way!
samy0
I just want to find someone who wants a pet! The one stray that we had spayed cost me $135 for spaying and shots and that was the cheapest I found. Shelter will not come get them and if i take them in they would be lucky to survive the weekend. 1 vet told me to bring the kittens and the mother in and he would try to give away the kittens but the mother would go to the shelter after the kittens were gone..........


Now back to the cat fight!! laugh.gif
Guest_sheash
Samyo, I'm not fighting - I already know what I'm going to do, and nobody is going to change my mind.

I see pet kitties as totally different animals than wild barn cats - if they were pet kitties, I'd be approaching the problem differently. Pet kitties are sweet, but I can't be around them because of my allergies. Barn cats are nasty things that either pee on everything in the barn, tear it up, or have their babies in your boat, and I don't want to be around them. Again I ask you - would you want to sit in the middle of a lake on a warm summer afternoon in a boat that stinks because the cats have been having babies and peeing in it? I'd think not. And spay/neutering them does not prevent them from peeing.

Some of the ones in our barn are not healthy, as evidenced by the gooey, closed eyes, gaping wounds, etc. One cat in a barn is good for keeping the mice down, entire communities is unreasonable and unhealthy. I certainly don't want my dog or goats tangling with them.

I love my dog, but advocate shooting coyotes - same difference. Hope you find homes for your pet kitties!
mstubble
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I live in Southern Huntingdon County, and there's no listings in our phone book for a shelter or a Humane Society in our county - they point us to Franklin, who won't take them.
Huntingdon County Humane Society

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The Game Warden is thru here all the time; but he's looking for deer poachers. I seriously doubt that any of the animal control folks in Cbg are going to come over here to "get" me for shooting feral cats.


Still doesn't change the fact that you are breaking the law and guilty of animal cruelty. If they find out what you're going, I'm sure they will pay you a visit.

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Some of the ones in our barn are not healthy, as evidenced by the gooey, closed eyes, gaping wounds, etc.
Sounds like distemper. You need to call animal control and report this. They can humanly put down those that are infected.

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I already know what I'm going to do, and nobody is going to change my mind.


So you're going to ignore my offer to help you resolve this issue?

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I love my dog, but advocate shooting coyotes - same difference.


I hope you mean when it is necessary. Or do you advacate shooting any coyote you see?
Guest_sheash
Any coyote that gets on my ground and near my goats is a goner!

I don't consider a well-placed (read well-placed, not anything else) shot animal cruelty. It's the same thing as taking them to the shelter to be euthanized, and if it's a well-placed shot, they don't know it. How is that any less humane than giving a critter a shot that makes it sleepy then shuts down its organs? I get the impression that you will next want me to be trapping the groundhogs, bunnies, squirrels, deer, bear, skunks, etc. so that they can be "rescued".

I'm not ignoring your offer for help, but I see no reason for me to spend money to "resolve the issue". Huntingdon is 45 miles up the road. I've already spent big money (over $100) on some kind of contraption that's supposed to make high-pitched sounds they don't like and makes them go away, and it worked for a while - maybe it needs a new battery; I'll check it out. But I've got a covered barn that offers protection from the elements and a readily available source of food (the neighbors birds and the bunnies) - what feral cat wouldn't think that was heaven?

My philosophy is live and let live, unless the creature is causing disease or destruction. Most critters hang around a couple of days, then move on. We don't shoot the bunnies, but we let the dog chase them - she's never caught one yet and it's great exercise for her and entertainment for us. We DO shoot the groundhogs.
Yossarian
Sounds like a plan to me....

moving to the country and shooting stuff you don't like...

rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
Naomi
laugh.gif That's what you'll do when you retire, right Yoss? wink.gif
WVDragonlady
he,he! that's what we do. biggrin.gif
we got a paintball gun to shoot the neighbor's horses that are always coming over here.you otta see em with brite green paint on em! laugh.gif
also got a bb gun to shoot the stray cats that eat our cats food in the car port. wink.gif
lotsa fun out here in the country! tongue.gif
mstubble
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I don't consider a well-placed (read well-placed, not anything else) shot animal cruelty. It's the same thing as taking them to the shelter to be euthanized, and if it's a well-placed shot, they don't know it. How is that any less humane than giving a critter a shot that makes it sleepy then shuts down its organs?
You just don't go around shooting cats, stray or not. That's the law.

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I get the impression that you will next want me to be trapping the groundhogs, bunnies, squirrels, deer, bear, skunks, etc. so that they can be "rescued".


Sorry, you've got the wrong impression. Feral cats are still domesticated and should not be hunted down because you don't want to do the right thing.

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Huntingdon is 45 miles up the road.
You have an excuse for everything.

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I'm not ignoring your offer for help, but I see no reason for me to spend money to "resolve the issue".


I'm not asking you to spend any money. I said that I would PAY.
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