In fact, I KNEW you were very young (the stupidity of your opinions told me that long ago) and your reply had been one of the few which I therfore DID appreciate.

If I had in fact made the assumption that the old rules still applied, I wouldn't have asked the question in the first place - so much for your criticism.

Thanks for answering. You haven't been a teenager for more than a decade, but I guess you MIGHT still be in touch with the current standards...

Again, I asked because I wanted to know, not because I was convinced I already did know. Unfortunately few people replied, and they weren't all young enough to really know what the deal is. Naomi's opinion wasn't even worth considering, because she's just some kids mom. Kids invariably tell their parents whatever they have to to keep the peace.

Wow! Again you think enough of me to dedicate all sorts of time and emotion to replying to me!

I point out to the Mods that the discussion here has never strayed from the topics under discussion. Others started talking about piercings before I asked a very simple question, and we never completely left the topic of tattoos. WVD simply doesn't like my opinion and wants to have it erased = censorship. You have the ability to censor my speech, yes. But I don't think you want to go there...

If others would stop attacking everything I post, I would have nothing more to say myself. The problem is, people cannot just let me have my opinion and express it without having to jump all over it and me personally. I reserve the right to defend myself and my opinions.

Alright, B. You've caused enough trouble, and now you've started your whining about nobody wants to hear your opinion.

Nobody wants to hear your opinion because you can't state it without being rude and hateful. We will listen to your opinion if you will be civil and, as you say, not try to force us to believe your opinion is the only correct one. If you can't do that, then please crawl back into your cave. This is NOT an "attack" on you, it is an attempt to restore the peace.

Thanks for the laugh

Voodoo

Bmic
Bmic


But after you were told the way it IS you still did not except it.

Criticism warranted.

WVD,

We're not ignoring you. But I don't think it is practical to constantly monitor a very busy thread like this and move every post that is even slightly off-topic. It'd take FT mods all day to do that on all the threads here.

While not every post here is directly related to tattoos, most of them are related to the meanings of tattoos, piercings, etc. and associated bigotry about people with tattoos, piercings, etc. I see a connection there. If the topic suddently went from a tattoo of a fish to fishing for several posts I can see a new thread created by separating those posts. Otherwise, please exercise your right to ignore whatever you feel is off-topic.

Bow to Heather Goddess of baiting...

The intention of this thread was completely innocent and even obliging, I assure you. Any random thread, no matter the subject, posted on this site falls threat to off-topic rantings and verbal sparring.

It's the nature of the little family we all have here.

Awww, come here and give me a great big kiss, little sister...

EWW! That is SO WVa.!

Has anyone ever gone to Snakeman's in Fredrick? I've been in the "store" during a bike show one time.He seemed to have a large selection.I didn't see the room where the inking is done so I can't vouch for cleanliness.

Oh, and thanks for the answer to my question earlier.Isn't that the same store as over here on Foxcroft?

I am not sure if they are the same or affiliated.

I have a friend who got a tatt there a while back it was ok not the best job. As far as tatt shops in Frederick go that one definetly has the most "trashy" stigma to it. It generaly does not come recommended. There are much better shops in Frederick. I would recommend either Marks of the Spark, Time Bomb or Classic Elec. all in downtown. I have never been inked at TB or CE but the work I have seen from them is better and I have heard better things about them in general than Snakemans.

If you want my opinion of the best around it is the shop I go to. I am admittedly a little biased. But seriously as far as artistic talent goes Bullett is the best around. He tattooed Elliot of DC101 and Elliot talks about him from time to time if anyone listens to that station. I posted the link earlier in the thread but I will again check it out. He is in Mt. Airy which is down 70 from Frederick so it is a drive but well worth it. He has 2 other guys working with him that are also good but he is tops.
He books about a month or so out. Very good with custom pieces taylored to you for a one of a kind piece. I have a thing against flash.

http://www.bullettsink.com

"Gimme some sugar. And make it sweet." -Otis Driftwood

Weird.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b162/mil...oo/64b56f0e.bmp


http://www.herald-mail.com/forums/index.ph...e=post&id=36351

As usual, your critical reading skills suck.

I haven't been complaining about people not wanting to hear my opinion, I've been bragging about how those who CLAIM not to care what I think show that in fact they DO care or they wouldn't spend so much time arguing with me.

You seem to have missed it when I even congratulated WVD at first for not bothering to launch into a tirade against me, though she eventually changed her mind and decided I was in fact worthy of her time and attention after all.

By your own admission tatt shops have a "trashy" stigma. Yet when I dare mention that tattoos in general have a trashy stigma, you jump all over me? Yeah, that makes a whole lotta sense!

Good going Bush way to miss read the evidence again.

I was not told "how it is" by a sufficient number of those who would even really know in the first place in order for me to be convinced. I'm still not sure that I have. I appreciate your and McGrupp's replies, as folks who may be young enough to know for certain, but we all got sidetracked by older folks who aren't in a position to know the facts.

I STILL haven't made up my mind either way, though I am inclined to believe you've got it right that standards have indeed changed. The bit between Naomi and I was just me giving her some well-deserved criticism for thinking I would take her pierced son's word for it.

As I basically said before, I want to hear from some teens or early 20-somethings what the real deal is. Not their parents. Not having heard from many young folks, my mind is still not really decided either way on the piercing question, no matter what you might say.

Check out the youth groups at your church B. Particularly the teen-aged groups.

Seriously, I'm not ragging on you. Even though they follow the word of god, they'd still be in touch with young folks their age. It would surprise me if they didn't know.

How about we have somebody give your young daughters a ride to a reputable tattoo shop, and then you can ask somebody you might believe those questions?

I'll bet they'd love the opportunity to pi$$ off their straight-laced daddy!

I am currently re-evaluating my relationship with that church. Among other things, I've recently learned that some of their pastors may not meet biblical qualifications for the position. I have other issues with the place, but this one would require me to revoke my membership.

P.S. - Do you keep a little dossier on all of the regulars here, Yoss, just so you can keep track of as much personal info on us as possible to use against us whenever you choose? It seems your interest in me and the amount of effort you've put into investigating me and my affiliations goes way beyond the norm for normal internet discussion boards. It's more than a little spooky, you know. I'm not so sure I like being stalked by a Herald-Mail Forums Moderator.

P.P.S. - And for those of you laughing at the thought - do you know what kinds of things Yoss has been trying to dig up about you and your personal life based on things you have said on the forums? This is getting to be just plain creepy.

HUH? You're getting tattoos and male ear piercing all confused.

That, and you're threatening kidnapping of my minor children! How about if you have any kids, that I suggest we all go and haul them off somewhere - how would you feel? THINK before you post! What kind of drugs are you on?

Having younger people post on this board is not likely. Somehow, whenever one tries to post, all of us old wise-acres scare them off.

I remember that poor home-schooler who tried, then the girls in the ice rink thread.... I knew from the beginning that these were young posters, with young ideals. We squished them :-( We have grown into a crowd of angry old idiots.

I think I will go eat some worms now.

ps. Am I the only one who notices the growing hysteria around here? What is going on? Is it the heat?

pps. BMIC, I don't think Yoss was making reference to your church because he knows the particular youth group. All churches have them, most of the youth may include one or two with tattoos, etc. Yikes, relax!

What ya wanna know Yoss!? You have my addie.

Actually I am pretty sure he does. I made reference to my church a long time ago, and in fact one of the regulars did remember it because she used to attend. But Yoss had no legitimate interest since he's an avowed anti-church person, except that he's stalking me.

He has basically admitted searching for info about me and my affiliations in the County Council thread on the Wash Co News forum. He says it's all publicly-available info so it's okay for him to go investigating each of us. I think it's creepy stalking-type of behavior. It wouldn't surprise me if he had sneaked by my church sometime during a youth group meeting just to check out the crowd and see if he could pick me and my children out. *shiver* He certainly is saying that he knows what kind of body art the kids who go there are displaying.

I can just imagine this guy hunched over his computer filling out a dossier on every one of us regulars.... and I'm not so sure this is a safe place for any of us anymore.

Oh no!

Paranoid much B?

where's BMIC white trash comment???

anyways Camaro's are top level white trash

I sure am now and I believe with good reason. I may have to go out and buy a gun, though I don't like having them around.

... as is pornographic obsession.

that reminds me of the clip from the new movie 40 year old virgin...

do you have protection?

no I don't like guns...

no that would be neo-redneck

You just can't do it, can you, B?

Go away!

And the rest of you just can't leave him alone.

It's like a battle between two kids in the back of a car on family vacation. You can't let each other have the last word.

Y'all go to one corner. B, you go to the other corner.

Why do you defend him Heather? He brings a lot of this on himself. He makes flat out rude comments, and then expects no reaction. He has lost a lot of respect from the posters here, and it's all self-inflicted.

One thing I've learned in my life is that no matter what your discussing, or how potentially heated it may become, all of that can be changed in how you approach someone. BMIC has no qualms in calling someone a nasty name, making fun of someone (even for the smallest things, like a misspelling), or making judgements.

I think Heather is just sick of the whole thing. As am I.

As humorous as it is to watch and read. It does tend to become tiresome.

Well,now that all the crap posts and bull(that is what you called it in the other thread right?heather?) has been moved to another thread,maybe we can get back to topic.


Has anyone ever been given any grief over their tatts? you know,work or home?


I had one manager who was always saying something snotty about mine.I delivered office supplies at a large company and she would want me to cover them up.Now,when the temps were cooler,that was no problem.But then she said to cover them when the temps were already in the 80's and the humidity was near 70 and it was only 8am! I had to go from the supply building down a hill and over to the larger building to deliver. I complained to personnel and was told the usual "it'll be looked into".The old so and so had been there since it was built and alot of people were afraid of her it seems.I put up with it till the back blew.I couldn't lift any more so...

Good one! Comedy is your saving grace, Greedy!

It's like a tennis match.It bounces from the top of the board to the bottom and then back again.

Only problem is it spills from one thread to another like a fungus.

One good post out of 787 ain't bad...

Reminds me of Nelly when he used to wear that bandaid over his face, but for no apparent reason

Well, I think that was nice of them! Good on them.

I worked at a law office where one of the attorneys had a tatt on his arm and a pierced ear. He would always wear long sleeve dress shirts, and take the earring out during work hours, court, etc.

I feel bad for you WVD; this guy was in an air conditioned office all day working behind a desk!

Negative!!

First Impressions are lasting impressions.

I walk into a business and see some ....er......person with studs and earings in places other than the ears, my impression is not off to a good start.

The young man should've been reassigned to a position where he would not be in public contact until her was "out-of-the-woods" and could safely remove the company stated offensive item from his face.

The ARMY, forbids SOLDIERS from displaying "body-art". If a Soldier has a tatt on his/her forearm, they must wear the sleeves of the uniform down. Males are forbidden from wearing ANY piercings during duty hours.

Golly, now why would anyone have any problem with tattoos and piercings if they're as totally socially acceptable as you all keep demanding that I believe?