Sometimes it's whatever the boss wants. As I said, I'm not into tattoos or piercings, but modest ones don't bother me. Would I want someone with a green mowhawk, 12 piercings in his face, and a tattoo of the middle finger extended at the desk of my senior center? No. But neither would I want a gum-chewing, bored-looking, blonde with 4 inch fake nails and a poor attitude there.

Yes I was referring to your story.

As you stated, it is a Temp Agency - find another "assignment".

Maybe it should be, then we MIGHT not have had ENRON and MCI. Just a thought.

I'm not. I'm pointing out how ridiculous it all is coming from all of you. "Tiresome," someone said. Exactly. It gets old.

Yes but the employee doesn't have the right to force the employer to compromise. If they do that's just peachy, but if I as the employer don't like your looks, you're out on your can.

That's not true...I was in the Army and knew many men who had tattoos covering their entire arms. If they are in good taste and not racist, sexist, or indecent may be seen while wearing the BDU uniform. The class A uniform is a differnt story, is that what you're referring to?

Surely you're not saying that the military serves as a model of how to conduct a good business? Maybe they do know how to look good in their spiffy little uniforms, but the military is just as full of waste and mismanagement as the rest of the U.S. Government.

Cops aren't allowed to wear their "jewelry" while on duty, but mostly for their own safety. There's no telling if they will encounter somebody who will resist arrest, etc. Sort of for the same reason they wear the vests.

Before my son got the job he just left, he had 5 piercings in each ear & one in his tongue, and wore his pants low, etc. He found out that if he didn't wear his earrings and wore his pants around his waist, he made better money. He doesn't have anything but the tongue piercing now, and wears Levi's. Amazing how $ will adjust one's attitude!

I guess my nephew doesn't count as someone young, because he told me and I'm an adult? Go to the mall and just watch people; you'll see plenty of young kids with piercings and then ask them what they think.

We also have several men (one guy was a GS-14) who have long, long hair. They wear it in a ponytail at work and B, they are not gay. We have several guys of all ages who have tats and earrings. One of our HR managers has a tat.

B - I also wanted to know about the following. What would you do if someone you have known for a very long time, are good friends with and respect, would get a tat or you find out they have had one? Would you call them whitetrash and never speak to them again? Or just start treating them like dog poo?

What if one of your children would get a tat? Never speak to them again and call them whitetrash?

Mstubble, That was what I was trying to get across to The-Great-I-Am, but I guess I didn't word it well. (What if his own kid went out and got one?)

I'm guessing that eventually tatts won't cause all the trouble that they do.
I rather see a tatt instead of those fake claws that some people wear.They give me the creeps wondering just what nasty germs are being harbored under there! You wouldn't believe the number of times women have left the restrooms and NOT washed their hands! Disgusting.

B - From Wikipedia.....Today, single and multiple piercing of either or both ears is extremely common among Western women, and fairly common among men.

Neither. It probably wouldn't change my atitude nor behavior towards him one bit.

All I am saying is that tats give a negative first impression. That's why shopkeepers often don't want them visible to their customers. It's not that they irrevocably brand someone as a white trash loser. You cannot deny the fact that they are not considered a classic part of the image m,ost people have of a clean-cut, morally upright citizen, no matter how many people from all walks of life have them. They do still carry a bit of a "trashy" stigma, even if most of the people who have them in fact are not all that 'trashy' themselves. Maybe they're becoming more respectable, but they aren't "there" yet, in my opinion. That's all I am saying.


Surely you know I wouldn't, and this is therefore an intentional provocation, which fact I will basically ignore.

Since my kids are minors, I would sue the tattoo artist personally, the studio for whom they work, and report them to the local law enforcement agency for (hopefully) prosecution. If any other adult were involved in the process, they would be named in my lawsuit and reported to the authorities as well. I would seek restitution for the costs of removing the tats plus punitive damages. Perfectly reasonable response, IMO. But my kids know better than to try such a thing. Even the rebellious one. I can't promise they won't get something done after they leave home, but as long as they live under my roof ... you know how that goes.

No I don't know. You've called us all whitetrash.



First off, I have no idea how old your children are and it should have been obvious that the question pretained if and when they are of legal age to get a tat.

The reason I asked both questions is because, I've know very religious people, who actually stopped talking to their child (adult - 25) because they did something against Gods law. They would not have anything to do with the child, until the child came back on their hands and knees and begged forgiveness and that they have repented and asked for Gods forgiveness. What did the 25 year old do, you ask? She had a boyfriend and had sex.

My parents also did not speak to my sister for many years because she did not Honor thy father and mother. How you ask? When they were belittling her and her husband and children (kind of like you calling people whitetrash for having a tat), she nicely asked them to please respect her. They didn't like the fact that she did not go to college like they told her too or her husband, they always ridiculed their house and their children. I think she handled it very nicely, but they didn't.

B, being the mother of a very rebellious son, let me tell you, kids are going to do what they are going to do, and the threat of "You won't do that while living under my roof" doesn't phase them in the least. First of all, they all know that you can't turn them out on their own until they are 18, so they know you can't do a thing to back up your statement. Your best approach is to just ignore the rebelliousness, and jail them if you have to. I will never forget the friday night that my son was supposed to be at his father's but showed up at my door very drunk and threatening me. When I called the cops, they told me I had to let him into the house, and if I didn't they would arrest me. And they stuck by their guns until my son threw a brick thru the window. So, you are listening to the voice of experience here, OK? Been there, done that, gotta whole closet full of t-shirts.

Also, I am not impressed with your threat to sue the tattoo parlor and any adults who would assist your child in getting one. That to me is a frivolous lawsuit, and is part of why the courts are overburdened now. When I was growing up, we were told that we had made our beds, now we had to sleep in them. Parents suing people/places because their kids did something stupid and they helped is not teaching children consequences. Just my opinion.

That's okay, I'm not impressed with just about anything you've had to say in this thread either so we're even.

I disagree that it is frivolous, but I agree that it's not the most effective deterrent. Criminal prosecution and some hard jail time would be far more effective, and totally warranted in my opinion. Anyone who gives a minor a tattoo or piercing without his or her parents' consent may as well have kidnapped them, tied them up and did it, since they're not old enough to legally consent to it in the first place. The punishment should be accordingly severe.

No I am not one of those who would stop talking to his kids just because they screwed up, no matter how royally. I am in fact nowhere near as insanely over the top as I suspect most folks here think I am. I am fortunate that my kids do (at least for the time being) respect me even if they don't always agree with me. I am not worried about my kids going off and getting a tattoo without my permission, at least not the way our relationships stand now. But if they did, I would hold the tattoo artist accountable for his or her actions to the fullest extent of the law. I seriously doubt any would be stupid enough to do it knowingly anyway, and if my kid showed them a false i.d. it wouldn't be their fault so too bad, so sad, nothing I can do about it.

No one mentioned minors getting tats. I asked you how you would feel about your children getting a tat and you assumed I meant when they were minors. I did not. I don't even know the ages of your children. I thought you were intelligent enough to get that my question concerned getting a tat legally (age wise).

Yes, you are. Here's hoping you stay fortunate.

I saw a woman(about mid forties I'd say) at the ren. faire on Sat.She had the most pretty dragon from the top of her right breast over the shoulder and down and around the arm! NICE! I know she had more but,being a dragon groupie it caught my eye and I didn't notice the others! I didn't get a chance to speak to her cuz she was passing and we were gossiping with an acquaintance. I'm keeping an eye out for her.Gotta get the 411 on it.

Thank you! Me too.

OK people. I know I posted the pics of my tattoos on the other site, but they're not there anymore, so.. I'll post them here. and also, I couldn't let B have the last word!






and no, you can't see the jailhouse tattoo!

Love the dragon!!!

I think you deleted them WVD after someone made some rather nasty remarks about them.

Oh come on.

Wow! They're all so pretty, but I especially like the lilac rose and little blue bird with the ribbon draped around the heart. Really vivid colors. Nice!

And your sunburn's looking better too! hee hee

AHHHHHHHH! Kevin Spacey is coming on to me!!!!!!! And it is FREAKING me out!

Heather- MAKE IT STOP!!!!!

love the tats WVD, especially the angel!
I'd love to get a tat myself one day, just gotta decide where I wanna put it