Okay, everyone what do you think?

Tony

Yes, but with some very limited reasons for doing so.

I don't know if I think it should be for reasons or not. That could leave too many loopholes. But I think it should have some pretty high standards before it could happen. Standards in the process that is. Maybe with a petition that requires a very high percentage of voters or something. I have not thought this all through yet. That is why I put it out here maybe the discussion will be good.

Tony

i think there should be a recall in place, but yes more information is needed think real hard about it tony .

Yes, this is not something to jump into half cocked. We have nine months before the next session. I believe it is important to have, just for the simple fact politicians on the state and local level need to be held accontable. Giving the citizens the right to "fire" a person in office is a powerful tool.

Just think if a group of people who were out for their own agenda got total control of an elected body. They would be able to do anything they wanted and the citizens could not stop them for 4 years. A lot of damage could be done in that time.

In history it is pretty easy to see politicians are nto capable of really disciplining their own so there must be recourse for the people.

Tony

Tony,

"Just think if a group of people who were out for their own agenda got total control of an elected body. They would be able to do anything they wanted and the citizens could not stop them for 4 years. A lot of damage could be done in that time."


You think thats not going on right now? We don't have to look far for an example

samy0

I am not naive. It does happen although if you are refering to our present Council in Hagerstown I do not think they are in lockstep on every issue. Regardless though we do not have recourse on any level in the state of Maryland. We need to be able to even recall our Statewide officials if they are taking us in a wrong direction.

Tony

Isn't the right to petition for the redress of grievences guaranteed under the US Constitution? We think the absence of a recall provision in the state law violates that guarantee. Maybe tony can argue that in annapolis.

I am willing. I am dead serious about pushing for this issue and I hope some others in here will join me. I think we need to get a pledge from every person running for statewide elections this yyear to support a measure for recall elections.

Tony

Can't you just impeach them if they're really bad enough to be forcibly removed from office? Unless there was some kind of problem with the voting process in the first place, I don't think it's fair to keep asking ppl to re-vote until you get ther result you're hoping for. I believe they were properly elected to begin with so IMO you're stuck with them unless they do something so heinous that you can impeach them.

Do you think in example of the city the would impeach one of their own? They would not even fine Alesia. I am not talking a situation that you go down sign a piece opf paper and can get a recall vote. BUt maybe a situation where a certain percentage fo the voters sign a petition and one could be called.

Tony

I don't know. A recall election is an expensive proposition. I would hope that if public opinion is truly strong enough to justify one, the council would respond to that much pressure.

I suspect instead that few people in H-town really care enough about McBean's shenanigans for example, and that's why the council hasn't done much about it. In which case I have to say that since they were careless enough that they voted her in, the citizens of H-town are stuck with her until and unless she does an awful lot worse stuff than anything she's pulled so far.

I really don't think that the posts we read on these forums are an accurate representation of the overall populace. The might represent the diversity of opinions out there, but I suspect there are an awful lot of folks who really don't give a hoot about most of the topics we discuss.

With a %30 voter turnout I would tend to agree with you. If you can only get that kind of turnout for an election it tells me that there is a large majority of citizens who just couldn't give a crap. If they held a special recall election the chances of even the original %30 all coming back are slim to none

Exactly SamyO the majority of the people don't give a crap.

Ok I have started contacting State Delegate about recall elections and measure to have any hearing about the actions of a public official held in public. You all have my email address so let me knwo if you want to help or if you just want to gripe in here.


Tony

Let's see.....I pick.....just griping...wouldn't want to be any different that anyone else in here. Thanks for all of the support at the budget hearings last night, for a second there I thought I was alone.....oh, thats right...I was alone.

Then you didn't do a good enough job convincing your peers of your view. Sorry about your luck.

So what did you want or need Kid? Did you ask for help and give a reason why? Or are you just griping?

Tony -- Sounds reasonable -- yes with a high standard.

Did you come in here and ask for help? You came in here just like you did a couple weeks ago and started insulting people. You expect anyoen to come help you then? Plus was or was not the decision made even before the budget meeting started?

Just because someone does not take off of work to come to a meeting does not mean they don't care. It also does not mean they have not communicated their beliefs to their elected officials about what they believe shold happen. I knwo for a fact 4 of the 6 elected officials knew my opinioons on the issue. Of course to you my opinion is just griping.

Kid do us all a favor resign. You are not serving the people anymore and you are making yourself look stupid in the process. We are sick of tantrums and crying from your end.

Tony

Fixed it for ya!

Edited for phrasing

30% voter turnout ??!!??

check your numbers there sam, I believe it was more like a pathetic 14%.

jm

Ya get what you don't vote for

14% even worse!