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April 14, 2006— Soaring gas prices are squeezing most Americans at the pump, but at least one man isn't complaining.

Last year, Exxon made the biggest profit of any company ever, $36 billion, and its retiring chairman appears to be reaping the benefits.

Exxon is giving Lee Raymond one of the most generous retirement packages in history, nearly $400 million, including pension, stock options and other perks, such as a $1 million consulting deal, two years of home security, personal security, a car and driver, and use of a corporate jet for professional purposes.
SMan
I'm in the wrong line of work.
Udmas
Now I won't feel so bad when I fill up the gas tank.
Wrangler3
QUOTE (Udmas @ Apr 15 2006, 11:15 AM) *
Now I won't feel so bad when I fill up the gas tank.



Someone explain to me again why some justify high gas prices??
SMan
QUOTE (Wrangler3 @ Apr 15 2006, 11:27 AM) *
QUOTE (Udmas @ Apr 15 2006, 11:15 AM) *

Now I won't feel so bad when I fill up the gas tank.



Someone explain to me again why some justify high gas prices??



supply and demand
Wrangler3
QUOTE (SMan @ Apr 15 2006, 11:42 AM) *
QUOTE (Wrangler3 @ Apr 15 2006, 11:27 AM) *

QUOTE (Udmas @ Apr 15 2006, 11:15 AM) *

Now I won't feel so bad when I fill up the gas tank.



Someone explain to me again why some justify high gas prices??



supply and demand


Yeah, thats always the reason. LOL I wonder who creates the demand us or them? There has always been demand and up until recently the prices never jumped around like they have the past few years. Working in manufacturing I have seen how to drive up prices. Lower the supply so demand goes up that way you can raise prices for short supply.
Naomi
mad.gif It makes me sick!
SMan
QUOTE (Wrangler3 @ Apr 15 2006, 02:59 PM) *
Yeah, thats always the reason. LOL I wonder who creates the demand us or them? There has always been demand and up until recently the prices never jumped around like they have the past few years. Working in manufacturing I have seen how to drive up prices. Lower the supply so demand goes up that way you can raise prices for short supply.



It only takes a quick peek at an AC&T or Sheetz station to see who creates the demand. We're addicted to gasoline.
Udmas
Plus a booming China adds to the demand.
BMIC
It's not that we're "addicted" to gasoline, like it's something we could actually do without but have allowed ourselves to get hooked on. We depend on it like we do food or water or air. To say we're addicted to it to me implies we could choose to go without but don't. That may be true for a minority of city dwellers, but for most of America I don't think so.

The oil companies know they control an essential commodity, and they're exploiting that fact. The problem is that they don't seem to be obeying the rules of Capitalism - nobody seems to be bothering to try to compete, and instead the whole industry seems to be in collusion to rip off the consumer. The only thing holding them back seems to be threats of government intervention, rather than competition for customers. Behind it all is the international criminal conspiracy known as OPEC, but I think OPEC is just the beginning.

The yoyo-ing prices are indeed awfully annoying. They're also a bad idea if you think about it because they get our attention. You would think they would want to keep prices stable so we just get used to them and don't notice we're getting raped at the pump. As it is, every time I fill up the price has taken a dramatic turn.
SMan
I say we're addicted because I know many that complain about the price of gasoline, but few who are willing to do anything to even remotely change their lifestyle to reduce consumption.
BMIC
QUOTE (SMan @ Apr 17 2006, 09:22 AM) *
I say we're addicted because I know many that complain about the price of gasoline, but few who are willing to do anything to even remotely change their lifestyle to reduce consumption.

My point is that the best most of us can feasibly do to reduce our gasoline consumption is so little it won't really accomplish anything. A point admittedly more true of us rural folks who have to drive 5 miles just to get to the nearest country store.
Idiot
QUOTE (SMan @ Apr 15 2006, 11:42 AM) *
QUOTE (Wrangler3 @ Apr 15 2006, 11:27 AM) *


Someone explain to me again why some justify high gas prices??


supply and demand

Ok, but I suggest before we supply them with any more tax breaks that we demand that they develop a conscience. mad.gif

Warning to Naomi: Do not read on a full stomach. wink.gif
SMan
And what does that have to do with the price of gas in this country, which is brought on, in part, by our refusal (myself included) to go out of our way even a little to reduce our dependence.

Id, you've proven your point that oil companies have despicable practices and are likely in cahoots with the Bush administration. I don't want to pay this much for gas. I don't want to pay as much as I do for a lot of things in life. But I have a hard time damning oil companies for making profits. That is what they are in business for, right?

Now may I ask, do you have any "big oil" in your investment/retirement/401k accounts? I sure wish I did.
Naomi
I just have a hard time understanding why prices are going sky-high now. I had a hard enough time believing that Katrina caused all the shortages and high prices last year. Right now, there's no hurricane, and IMO no reason for gas to be just under $3.00 a gallon. What's the deal??? Can someone explain?
millennium
QUOTE (SMan @ Apr 22 2006, 10:07 PM) *
And what does that have to do with the price of gas in this country, which is brought on, in part, by our refusal (myself included) to go out of our way even a little to reduce our dependence.

Id, you've proven your point that oil companies have despicable practices and are likely in cahoots with the Bush administration. I don't want to pay this much for gas. I don't want to pay as much as I do for a lot of things in life. But I have a hard time damning oil companies for making profits. That is what they are in business for, right?

Now may I ask, do you have any "big oil" in your investment/retirement/401k accounts? I sure wish I did.


If the oil companies didn't get tax breaks they would have less profits and in order to appease their shareholders they would have to sell more gas and in order to create a demand and sell more gas they would have to lower the price.

You seem proud that you don't want to make an effort to reduce your comsumption and even pity the poor oil companies.

I wonder if anyone has ever done a study on the correlation of people who drive and their inability to think outside the box or in this case their car. rolleyes.gif
Udmas
This might be some of the reason for the high prices.

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Ethanol-blended fuel is being phased in because the existing additive known as MTBE has raised environmental and health concerns.

"The switch from MTBE to ethanol is also boosting prices because ethanol is more expensive," Armstrong said.

Add to the mix shipping and storage costs and state and federal taxes, and the costs keep climbing. At the end of the supply chain is the consumer.
SMan
Millennium - you don't know me, but I use much less gas then most people. I purposely live within 5 miles of work, drive less than 6k a year (my wife less than that), and drive a car that gets very nice mileage. I don't feel that sorry for people that chose to live so far from their jobs and get a little tired of hearing about it. I didn't want to be slaved to a commute to make a few extra bucks. I refuse to change my habits anymore until I see some others make an effort.

Go take your perceived intellectual and moral superiority and shove it in the box you believe you think outside. Better yet shove it in your ass.
SMan
Here was my take on Exxon's big profit in the Katrina quarter of last year. Link to post from 11/16/05.

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Exxon is a company with a market capitalization (all of the company's shares X the price per share) of roughly $356 trillion bucks. If the $10 billion profit held true for 4 quarters, you're looking at a $40 billion profit. If my math is right, that's aroud 10% of the market capitalization.

The best I can tell, Exxon has a little over 6.2 billion shares out there. Spread that profit out over all the shares and you're looking at less than a couple bucks per share. That is not excessive at all.

Exxon stock info.

It's a publicly traded company. If you want to be part of evil "big oil", a share can be had today for $57.18.


The numbers may have changed or been off a little, but I still think the point is valid.

My question for everybody is what do you think should be done about gas prices? Is government price control what everybody is hoping for?
millennium
QUOTE (SMan @ Apr 23 2006, 10:23 AM) *
Millennium - you don't know me, but I use much less gas then most people. I purposely live within 5 miles of work, drive less than 6k a year (my wife less than that), and drive a car that gets very nice mileage. I don't feel that sorry for people that chose to live so far from their jobs and get a little tired of hearing about it. I didn't want to be slaved to a commute to make a few extra bucks. I refuse to change my habits anymore until I see some others make an effort.

Go take your perceived intellectual and moral superiority and shove it in the box you believe you think outside. Better yet shove it in your ass.


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And what does that have to do with the price of gas in this country, which is brought on, in part, by our refusal (myself included) to go out of our way even a little to reduce our dependence.


You wrote the above which sounds like someone willing to not only take the abuse but proud to defend the abuser.

Now, you back track.

You don't use less gas than me since I don't own a car, truck or even a gas lawnmower. Yet, I still have to pay for the high cost of gas everytime I go to the grocery store.

Do you ever think about that when you shove your selfish and rude behind behind your steering wheel?
Idiot
QUOTE (SMan @ Apr 22 2006, 11:07 PM) *
Now may I ask, do you have any "big oil" in your investment/retirement/401k accounts? I sure wish I did.

I got out of the equity market in '98 and got into real estate. That's not to imply that there aren't a lot of people in this country making a killing in stocks. The probelm is they aren't doing it in this country.

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Alternative investments pay off for the very rich

By Deborah Brewster in New York
Published: April 19 2006 19:58 | Last updated: April 19 2006 19:58

The number of very rich people in the US grew last year at the fastest pace in at least a decade as their moves into international stockmarkets, real estate and alternative investments paid off.

The number of households with $5m (€4m) or more in investable assets – excluding the family home – rose by 26 per cent to a record 930,000, according to a study by Spectrem Group. That is the biggest jump since Spectrem began its survey in 1996. The number of millionaires rose by 11 per cent, to a record 8.3m – the second biggest jump in the decade since they were surveyed.

The overall affluent market – households with $500,000 or more – rose by 7 per cent to a record 14m. This group fared the worst in the wake of the stockmarket collapse, with their numbers falling sharply from 2000.

Last year was the first time their total passed that of their peak in 1999. Catherine McBreen, a managing director at Spectrem, said: “It’s been a great couple of years for America’s millionaires ... the stockmarket, which posted solid improvement in 2005, was one reason for the advance. However, for the wealthiest Americans it appears the increased use of international markets and alternative investments were key drivers of their improvement.”

George Walper, president of Sprectrem, said the group had questioned respondents on their investments and returns, and also examined the returns of international markets and alternative investments to ensure the veracity of the results. In a sudden reversal of their longstanding affinity for their domestic market, US investors last year put more than $130bn into international mutual funds, more than three times the amount they put into US funds.

Most overseas markets performed better than the US market, so their switch paid off.

Hedge funds returned on average only slightly more than the US stockmarket last year, but investable real estate and some private equity investments returned more than this.

Affluent households, on average, held close to half their money in assets – stocks, bonds and alternative investments – and a larger than usual amount of cash, Spectrem said.

The affluent reported a greater satisfaction with their financial advisers than in recent years, but this was still short of the highest level previously reported. Those who used advisers were shifting back to use full-service brokers as their main advisers.

Is this a great country or what? Pretty soon we're all going to be millionaires, it's just that some will get there sooner than others. laugh.gif

I got lucky with a couple Indian MFs that were heavy in Reliance and ONGC.

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Funds go for ONGC; Reliance slips as top stock

ONGC moved higher to top the fund house favourites list replacing Reliance.

snip

Among the fund house favourites, ONGC moved higher to top the list replacing Reliance Industries. It is the top held stock by four MFs – ING Vysya, Standard Chartered, Tata, and PRINCIPAL, while Reliance was held by 3 MFs – DSP ML, Reliance, and Deutsche.


The two I bought have returned 128% and 112% in the last 12 months and both are around 30% YTD. The first year I had them they only did around 30%. I discovered them because of this. That's what Dick Cheney was doing his first month in office with his energy task force. He went to work right away trying to make us all rich. Look for India on page 1 of the foreign suitors list.

I’m sure that this is just one of those lucky coincidences that seem to be following GWB around since before he was even in office, i.e. his brother being the governor of the state that swung the election his way. He got the most votes in Florida, no argument from me there. I know how sensitive you are about that particular subject. wink.gif

Now I can always use that kind of luck so I figure, what the hell? If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em. I hope you don't damn me for that either.

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Btw, I know that Judicial Watch only got these documents last March. I came across them in 2003 from one of those "conspiracy theory" web sites.
SMan
QUOTE (Idiot @ Apr 23 2006, 12:22 PM) *
He got the most votes in Florida, no argument from me there. I know how sensitive you are about that particular subject. wink.gif



I know, but with so many real things to complain about with Bush, I just hate to see people harping on non-issues. tongue.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE (millennium @ Apr 23 2006, 12:19 PM) *
You wrote the above which sounds like someone willing to not only take the abuse but proud to defend the abuser.

Now, you back track.

You don't use less gas than me since I don't own a car, truck or even a gas lawnmower. Yet, I still have to pay for the high cost of gas everytime I go to the grocery store.

Do you ever think about that when you shove your selfish and rude behind behind your steering wheel?


Ha! Trollennium of all people is going to lecture me on rudeness. Pot, meet Mr. (or Ms.) Kettle.

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I don't see it as a backtrack. I planned where I live and work to avoid a commute. All I'm saying is I'm not making any further changes, for now. I at least did something by planning a little so that I wouldn't be at the mercy of skyrocketing gas prices.
BMIC
Some of us can't afford to live anywhere near where they work. Those of us who don't live in the city have to buy gas in any event. The last thing I want to hear is some idiot city slicker who walks everywehere he or she needs to go telling me I'm part of the problem. It's your sh*t that gets dumped in my creek every time your overcrowded city's sewage plant overflows... and I've had enough of city folks' sh*t to last a lifetime thank you very much!

Gasoline is a necessity to most Americans and there's relatively little that we can do to decrease our need for it. I wish I could believe in the capitalist sytem and competitive pressures to keep gas prices reasonable, but for some reason that system doesn't seem to be working. I don't think gov't price controls are a good answer, but I don't know what else will work either. I do know that lectures from moronic city slickers about how I shouldn't drive anywhere are a total waste of breath, though.
millennium
The city slicker speech. rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

No, I don't blame folks who live in the country and have to drive to get almost anywhere. I do take exception to anyone who drives and just shrugs and say what can anyone do?

Folks who drive in a large city that has mass transit are a big part of the problem. Imagine having such a love affair with a car that you buy a deeded parking space for the price of a house down payment. ohmy.gif

Rule #1 - Challenge SMan and be labelled a troll rolleyes.gif

Rule #2 - Admit to living in any city and B blames you for Hagerstown's sewage problems
SMan
QUOTE (millennium @ Apr 23 2006, 06:11 PM) *
No, I don't blame folks who live in the country and have to drive to get almost anywhere. I do take exception to anyone who drives and just shrugs and say what can anyone do?

Folks who drive in a large city that has mass transit are a big part of the problem. Imagine having such a love affair with a car that you buy a deeded parking space for the price of a house down payment. ohmy.gif

Rule #1 - Challenge SMan and be labelled a troll rolleyes.gif



Not a rule, just an observation. There's a person, maybe two, that challenge about every quasi-political post I make here and I've never felt the need to drop the troll label on them. A lot of your posts agitate and have a rude tone. Some of them were in local politics areas that you have no stake in because you admittedly don't live in the area. I found that strange to take the tone and write the things you did when the topic didn't affect you. That led me to believe you were here just to stir the pot. Anybody is free to look at your past posts here (and mine) and judge for themselves. I may be completely wrong.

On your first two points of this post, I agree completely. See. We're not that different! tongue.gif laugh.gif
SMan
Here's my take on government price controls of gas and oil profits, in general.

The high profit levels signal to potential competitors that there is big money to be made in the oil industry (or industry that can create an alternative to oil). More companies getting in the game means more research into alternatives and more oil exploring. If you take the profit out of the oil industry, where's the motivation to find more oil (to keep up supply) or produce alternative fuels? Seems like a basic economic theory to me, but please note that I am not an economist and don't even play one on tv.

I know. Theory doesn't mean squat to somebody struggling to pay $3 a gallon to get to work or get their family around.
txexpatriot
Where were all you guys when alot of the oil companies were going bankrupt & gas was less than a buck? The national average on net profit is 6%. The total net profit of the major oil cos last year was 7.25%. Do not forget 69 cents or more is from taxes of the price you pay..only 21 cents(at $3/gal) went to the oil co.

However that being said, I am totally against a $400 mil severance pkg...for anyone!!
Idiot
QUOTE (txexpatriot @ Apr 26 2006, 10:43 AM) *
Where were all you guys when alot of the oil companies were going bankrupt...

That must have been back when I was visiting the Planet Mythos. Wasn't it around the same time as Y2K? laugh.gif

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Snoopy
Jeez...does Idiot have all the answers written down somewhere? rolleyes.gif

So it is Bush and Cheney -- that's why gas prices are high? blink.gif Not supply and demand? Nor governmental regulation, blend requirements, and gas taxes?

If I recall correctly, if Billy C had not vetoed drilling in ANWAR about 8-9 years ago about 1M barells a day would be flowing from there by now. But nooo...... gotta protect the moss I suppose.
Idiot
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Apr 26 2006, 12:19 PM) *
Jeez...does Idiot have all the answers written down somewhere? rolleyes.gif

So it is Bush and Cheney -- that's why gas prices are high? blink.gif Not supply and demand? Nor governmental regulation, blend requirements, and gas taxes?

If I recall correctly, if Billy C had not vetoed drilling in ANWAR about 8-9 years ago about 1M barells a day would be flowing from there by now. But nooo...... gotta protect the moss I suppose.

So tell me then, in the last two weeks when the price of gas has gone up 10%, what happened?

1. Did supply suddenly go down?
2. Did demand suddenly go up?
3. Did Congress pass any regulations while they were in recess?
4. Blend requirements change?
5. Taxes go up?
6. Did someone threaten a nuclear attack on a major oil producer?

Oops, how did that get in there?

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txexpatriot
1. China & India are using more & more fuel.
2. Non-drilling in the last 10+ years.
3. No new refineries.
4. No nuclear power plants due to regulations.
5. Damaged & Destroyed Refineries.
6. This is the time of year (Mar-Apr) when they take the refineries off line which need repair before the summer heat & recreation needs.
7. Blend requirements keep being added every year by new states. You cannot make 3 types of gas anymore, you have to make 40+ different blends for different states. This is the same as making everyone a pair of bluejeans but instead of the dark, light & stonewashed varieties, you must have those three types but 1 set of each type has to be sewn with blue thread, the next ones with yellow, the next set with green, then sparkley thread--all which requires rethreading the sewing machine for each type...and then you only want 6 of each type...so instead of it taking 1 day to make the 30 pairs it takes 3 days...
Idiot
You should have applied for the job they just gave to Tony Snow. wink.gif
Snoopy
QUOTE (Idiot @ Apr 26 2006, 01:35 PM) *
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Apr 26 2006, 12:19 PM) *

Jeez...does Idiot have all the answers written down somewhere? rolleyes.gif

So it is Bush and Cheney -- that's why gas prices are high? blink.gif Not supply and demand? Nor governmental regulation, blend requirements, and gas taxes?

If I recall correctly, if Billy C had not vetoed drilling in ANWAR about 8-9 years ago about 1M barells a day would be flowing from there by now. But nooo...... gotta protect the moss I suppose.

So tell me then, in the last two weeks when the price of gas has gone up 10%, what happened?

1. Did supply suddenly go down?
2. Did demand suddenly go up?
3. Did Congress pass any regulations while they were in recess?
4. Blend requirements change?
5. Taxes go up?
6. Did someone threaten a nuclear attack on a major oil producer?

Oops, how did that get in there?

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Blend requirements changed (winter to spring/summer blends), oil prices continued upward, MTBE phased out, ethanol phased in, refineries doing pre-summer maintenance -- just a few things.

You would have us believe that Bush threatened Iran to raise iol prices for his buddies??? blink.gif laugh.gif

Where were you a few months ago when prices were dropping a dime or more a week? Where were your wacky theories then?

So, it just can't be supply and demand, can it? It has to be Bush. wink.gif
millennium
QUOTE (txexpatriot @ Apr 27 2006, 10:08 AM) *
1. China & India are using more & more fuel.
2. Non-drilling in the last 10+ years.
3. No new refineries.
4. No nuclear power plants due to regulations.
5. Damaged & Destroyed Refineries.
6. This is the time of year (Mar-Apr) when they take the refineries off line which need repair before the summer heat & recreation needs.
7. Blend requirements keep being added every year by new states. You cannot make 3 types of gas anymore, you have to make 40+ different blends for different states. This is the same as making everyone a pair of bluejeans but instead of the dark, light & stonewashed varieties, you must have those three types but 1 set of each type has to be sewn with blue thread, the next ones with yellow, the next set with green, then sparkley thread--all which requires rethreading the sewing machine for each type...and then you only want 6 of each type...so instead of it taking 1 day to make the 30 pairs it takes 3 days...


Most of this is not new, so conservation and alternate fuels should have been a top priority of US Energy Policy. I'll let idiot update us on what has been going. He probably has a folder. biggrin.gif
Idiot
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Apr 27 2006, 12:13 PM) *
You would have us believe that Bush threatened Iran to raise iol prices for his buddies??? blink.gif laugh.gif

Where were you a few months ago when prices were dropping a dime or more a week? Where were your wacky theories then?

I haven't offered any theories, I've just asked questions. You're the one coming up with the "wacky" theories. I don't think the reason Bush threatened Iran was to raise prices for the oil companies, you came up with that one. I'm glad to see that you acknowledge that they are his buddies though. I don't think he thought it through enough to realize that was even going to happen.

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BMIC
Conservation and alternative fuels are long term strategies. Wouldn't accomplish much in the near term.

It might be nice if EPA stepped in and simplified things by exercising Federal pre-emption and established a less complicated set of blend requirements.
tagout
china is going to drill for oil off the coast of fla. when we should be . our cost of oil would be 1.50 cents a gallon . can they do that?
Idiot
Slightly off topic but right now Senator Ron Wyden (D-Ore) is filibustering the emergency spending bill in the Senate. He is offering an ammendment that would eliminate royalty relief for oil companies when the price of oil is above $50 a barrel. He simply wants a vote on his ammendment. This vote would eliminate subsidies to the oil companies costing billions of dollars. Obviously the Republicans do not want this ammendment to come to a vote as it would hurt big oil. They also do not want to go on record as voting for another subsidy to the oil companies in an election year, and so they are trying to table the amendment without a vote.

Go Ron!

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cfulmor
Indeed go Ron.

Hold up the business of the American People. rolleyes.gif
Idiot
QUOTE (cfulmor @ Apr 27 2006, 02:02 PM) *
Indeed go Ron.

Hold up the business of the American People. rolleyes.gif

Whatever happened to the simple "up or down vote" concept? The vote would take 5 minutes.

He's not holding up the business of the American people, that's total Bullsh!t. He's holding up the business of the Republican party, they are the ones who determine what comes to the floor, and there are a lot more important things to the American people than Frist will let them discuss. Bill Frist is holding up the business of the American people and has been for 3 years.

I'll say it again, Trent Lott was 1,000 times better as the Senate Majority Leader than Bill Frist will ever be!

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cfulmor
hrm, let me think about this one for a minute

















The republican party controls both houses, as well as the Presidency. Voted in by the American people. Right?

Not holding up the business of the American people? Want to reconsider?
millennium
QUOTE (BMIC @ Apr 27 2006, 12:54 PM) *
Conservation and alternative fuels are long term strategies. Wouldn't accomplish much in the near term.


With energy it always seems to be the "near term" - ten years ago - today would have been the result of the long term. Conservation and alternative fuels have been around for more than 10 years, yet the US is still mired in only "near term" solutions.
Snoopy
QUOTE (Idiot @ Apr 27 2006, 01:45 PM) *
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Apr 27 2006, 12:13 PM) *


You would have us believe that Bush threatened Iran to raise iol prices for his buddies??? blink.gif laugh.gif

Where were you a few months ago when prices were dropping a dime or more a week? Where were your wacky theories then?

I haven't offered any theories, I've just asked questions. You're the one coming up with the "wacky" theories.

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DON'T BE COY -- REF. YOUR SIG AND #6 IN YOUR PREVIOUS POST.
Idiot
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Apr 27 2006, 03:15 PM) *
DON'T BE COY -- REF. YOUR SIG AND #6 IN YOUR PREVIOUS POST.

Your sig says I'm an ass. While I can appreciate the beauty in its simplicity, any "theory" I have requires not only a more analytical mind to understand, but more words than can fit on the standard size bumper sticker.

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Udmas
High gas prices could benefit us in the long run, if oil is cheep nobody is going to seriously look at alternatives.
Snoopy
QUOTE (Idiot @ Apr 27 2006, 05:40 PM) *
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Apr 27 2006, 03:15 PM) *

DON'T BE COY -- REF. YOUR SIG AND #6 IN YOUR PREVIOUS POST.

Your sig says I'm an ass.

Yes, and you also know WHY it says that.
Pops
QUOTE (SMan @ Apr 15 2006, 11:42 AM) *
QUOTE (Wrangler3 @ Apr 15 2006, 11:27 AM) *

QUOTE (Udmas @ Apr 15 2006, 11:15 AM) *

Now I won't feel so bad when I fill up the gas tank.



Someone explain to me again why some justify high gas prices??



supply and demand


I just got back from the DC area and paid $2.31/gal in N. VA. About a month ago I was down that way and paid $3.21/gal.

Did supply suddenly go up or did demand suddenly go down?

I'm only directing the question to you because I remembered your 3-word response, which made it easier to find the thread. I know there are others here who repeat the S & D mantra. I'm open to all responses.
tagout
nope its not supply and demand, hasnt been for a long time, it turned into greed from wall street , thats what oreilly said .. every thing that can hold oil is full, after november it will go back up, a lot.
SMan
QUOTE (Pops @ Sep 20 2006, 02:58 PM) *
Did supply suddenly go up or did demand suddenly go down?


According to the major news sources, supply is way up, hence the prices are down.

Here's a Reuters article, but they all say the same thing.

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nope its not supply and demand, hasnt been for a long time, it turned into greed from wall street , thats what oreilly said .. every thing that can hold oil is full, after november it will go back up, a lot.


tag - you contradicted yourself by saying it's not supply/demand, then describe the exact scenario of supply and demand.

Times like these make me really miss Idiot, so he could tell me how wrong I am about this and how evil the oil companies are. Idiot, come back!
millennium
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