Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Mandatory Chickenpox Vaccination?
Herald-Mail Forums > Education > Washington County
BMIC
Article on the website today says Maryland, and particularly WashCo, is going to force parents to vaccinate their kids against chickenpox. http://www.herald-mail.com/index.php?modul...story_id=138831

Note that the only licensed chickenpox vaccine is manufactured in MRC-5 cells, which were harvested from the abortion of a 14-week old boy fetus. There are ethical alternatives for many of the other unethical vaccines, but not for chickenpox. Considering that chickenpox usually causes a very mild disease, there is simply no justification for forcing parents to take part in the murder of an unborn child in clear violation of their consciences and sincerely-held religious beliefs to prevent it.

Any good Catholics reading this will want to review the vatican's position on the subject at http://www.cogforlife.org/vaticanresponse.pdf

Most notably in regards to chickenpox which causes only mild disease in most cases, and is definitely NOT a significant risk, they say:

QUOTE (Vatican letter)
As regards the diseases against which there are no alternative vaccines which are available and ethically acceptable, it is right to abstain from using these vaccines if it can be done without causing children, and indirectly the population as a whole, to undergo significant risks to their health.

Their summary is also worth posting:

QUOTE (Vatican letter)
To summarize, it must be confirmed that:
-there is a grave responsibility to use alternative vaccines and to make a conscientious objection with regard to those which have moral problems;
- as regards the vaccines without an alternative, the need to contest so that others may be prepared must be reaffirmed, as should be the lawfulness of using the former in the meantime insomuch as is necessary in order to avoid a serious risk not only for one's own children but also, and perhaps more specifically, for the health conditions of the population as a whole - especially for pregnant women;
- the lawfulness of the use of these vaccines should not be misinterpreted as a declaration of the lawfulness of their production, marketing and use, but is to be understood as being a passive material cooperation and, in its mildest and remotest sense, also active, morally justified as an extrema ratio due to the necessity to provide for the good of one's children and of the people who come in contact with the children (pregnant women);
- such cooperation occurs in a context of moral coercion of the conscience of parents, who are forced to choose to act against their conscience or otherwise, to put the health of their children and of the population as a whole at risk. This is an unjust alternative choice, which must be eliminated as soon as possible.


Regardless of religious affiliation, any pro-life Marylander will want to fight this violation of their conscience to the fullest extent of the law.

Also note that the chickenpox vaccine isn't working. http://www.cogforlife.org/chickenpoxoutbreak.htm Outbreaks among vaccinated children of what appears to be a new strain of the virus tells me that the vaccine has simply caused the selection of a new strain. Of course the older you are when first infected, the greater the risk of serious sequelae, so the vaccine could simply be delaying inection and actually creating a gre3ater danger than the one it is atempting to eliminate. Makes me think we were better off in the good old days - when everyone got a mild case of itchy spots when they were a young child, and when we got better it conferred lifetime immunity.
BMIC
Catholics wishing to petition for a formal religious exemption may find this web page helpful: http://www.cogforlife.org/vaxexempt.htm

I'm still looking for information for others. But this may be useful:
http://www.cogforlife.org/libertycounsel.htm

The Maryland law on religious exemptions can be read here:
http://www.909shot.com/state-site/Maryland.htm

P.S. - Actually as shown here ( http://www.edcp.org/html/schoolrequire.html ) I found out that my youngest is too old to be affected by this. Starting next fall it will only be appied to kids entering the 9th grade and younger. But as I have shown, the law in Maryland allows for religious exemptions so parents should not feel forced to comply with what they know to be an unethical requirement.

You can and should stand up for your rights, and I encourage all pro-life Marylanders to join in the fight for ethical alternatives to vaccines produced from abortions!
feistyirishbabe
QUOTE (BMIC @ May 25 2006, 01:26 PM) *
Article on the website today says Maryland, and particularly WashCo, is going to force parents to vaccinate their kids against chickenpox. http://www.herald-mail.com/index.php?modul...story_id=138831

Jefferson County here in KY has that same b.s. law. I have refused the chicken pox vaccine for my 2 older children and I will refuse it when my pediatrician offers it for my newborn. Since my oldest is homeschooled, I thankfully have not had to fight the school system on their requirements.
BMIC
QUOTE (feistyirishbabe @ May 25 2006, 03:20 PM) *
Jefferson County here in KY has that same b.s. law. I have refused the chicken pox vaccine for my 2 older children and I will refuse it when my pediatrician offers it for my newborn. Since my oldest is homeschooled, I thankfully have not had to fight the school system on their requirements.

fib, did their doctor inform you of it's ethical concerns or did you already know?

I ask because I know they're trying to get a patient information law through congress but I wonder if any docs are already voluntarily informing their patients. One big part of the problem as I understand it is that many parents don't even know these things are made using cells from abortions so they don't have the chance to make a conscious choice.
txexpatriot
I am curious as both my children have had the chickenpox. So, they do not need the vaccine and how will I prove they had it when they were very young?
BMIC
QUOTE (txexpatriot @ May 25 2006, 03:46 PM) *
I am curious as both my children have had the chickenpox. So, they do not need the vaccine and how will I prove they had it when they were very young?

Somehow you'll need to convince their doctor to sign off that they had it. The new MD Immunization certificate has a space for that. Since a mild case doesn't require any medical attention, I think it's kind of ridiculous, but hopefully docs will just take people's word for it.
txexpatriot
That ought to be fun. We have moved multiple times since they were born. Multiple doctors...have to try their current pediatrician I guess. Still think the whole think is nuts. Chickenpox is not deadly...like smallpox which is the vaccine they got rid of..
BMIC
QUOTE (txexpatriot @ May 25 2006, 04:01 PM) *
Still think the whole think is nuts. Chickenpox is not deadly...like smallpox which is the vaccine they got rid of..

Exactly. Even Hepatitis B, which is the other one they talk about in the article, is not usually deadly. Though considering the prevalence and high risk of liver cancer if you do get infected I would advise taking it. Still, it's expensive and to make it mandatory BY LAW when it's not particularly deadly seems to be excessive.

P.S. - Here's what the state's form says:

QUOTE
One dose of varicella (chickenpox) is required for a student younger than 13 years old. Two doses of varicella vaccine are required for a previously unvaccinated student 13 years of age or older. Medical diagnosis of varicella disease is acceptable in lieu of vaccination. COMAR defines “Medical Diagnosis” as documented history of disease from a medical provider or local health department. Documentation must include month and year. In the absence of documentation a medical provider or local health department may verify immunity via blood test, but revaccination may be more expedient.
So you could get a blood test to prove immunity. But IMO the state should pay for that if they're gonna force you to have it done for something so trivial.
feistyirishbabe
QUOTE (BMIC @ May 25 2006, 03:30 PM) *
QUOTE (feistyirishbabe @ May 25 2006, 03:20 PM) *

Jefferson County here in KY has that same b.s. law. I have refused the chicken pox vaccine for my 2 older children and I will refuse it when my pediatrician offers it for my newborn. Since my oldest is homeschooled, I thankfully have not had to fight the school system on their requirements.

fib, did their doctor inform you of it's ethical concerns or did you already know?

I ask because I know they're trying to get a patient information law through congress but I wonder if any docs are already voluntarily informing their patients. One big part of the problem as I understand it is that many parents don't even know these things are made using cells from abortions so they don't have the chance to make a conscious choice.

No, their doctor did not inform me, it was solely my decision. Our pediatrician knows that I'm more of a "crunchy" mom and believe in selective vaccinations and bf while they receive the other necessary vaccines.
I was not aware that the vaccines were made from cells of aborted babies. Now that I have that extra info I feel even more strongly against it...
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.
Invision Power Board © 2001-2010 Invision Power Services, Inc.