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Udmas
These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by grief-arazzis. I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' death so much. These self-obsessed women seem genuinely unaware that 9-11 was an attack on our nation and acted as if the terrorist attack only happened to them. They believe the entire country was required to marinate in their exquisite personal agony. Apparently, denouncing Bush was part of the closure process.

- Ann Coulter, quoted criticizing 9/11 widows on The Today Show



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Liberals in America have been staging a new strategy on winning public-policy debates: Simply provide spokespeople that no one is allowed to respond to. Ann Coulter had the gall to challenge that and let loose with some direct observations in her newest best seller, "Godless: The Church of Liberalism," and true to form, liberals have been fomenting in response.

The reason they are is not because Ann has broken some sacred respect that one should have for a grieving mother, wife or relative. Rather, the reason they are so outraged by this is because it stabs through the heart the strategy of hiding behind spokespeople who "can't be criticized."

Matt Lauer, Hillary Clinton and Alan Colmes have been laughable in the trumped-up outrage that they share for the statements Coulter makes in "Godless" in reference to the "Jersey Girls." The Jersey Girls are four wives who lost their husbands on 9-11. They jumped into the 2004 election debate early on, cutting commercials for John Kerry, and they are on record for saying some rather hideous remarks about Condoleezza Rice and Karl Rove, not to mention President Bush.
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Why does this overspun media whore have free access to the airwaves all across the national-TV talk show circuit? Aren't the corporate sponsors embarrassed by such a disgraceful display of insensitivity and arrogance?

The answer undoubtedly lies with the blonde hair, blue eyes and mini-skirt, combined with her uncritical support of the President's party line, all so defiantly delivered in a most politically-incorrect fashion. However, given the gradual browning of America, you have to question the wisdom of Bush turning to such a vicious hatemonger to trumpet a Republican agenda which appeals to a rapidly-shrinking and deranged demographic.

I guess desperate times still call for desperate measures.


Personally I think she has a good point ( if your going to make political comments then be prepared to be criticized) but she does come off as a little crude.
phluux
I'm not a huge fan of Ann Coulter but I have no problem with her saying what she did. Their husbands died in the WTC attacks and that sucks, but big freakin' deal! We all lose loved ones every day and we aren't exempt from any public criticism, so they shouldn't be either.

Life isn't fair, get over it and move on.
Idiot
Ann Coulter is a sh!t sandwich.

There's no accounting for taste.
Snoopy
QUOTE (Idiot @ Jun 9 2006, 10:51 AM) *
There's no accounting for taste.


There you have it...from an expert. laugh.gif
PHISH
I agree with Idiot. Ann Coulter is a vicious b!tch who likes the sound of her own voice.
Udmas
I'll give her one thing she's not afraid to speak her mind.

The thing I like though is she's really pissing off the left, but is it for what she said or is it because she's exposing one of they're tactics.
cfulmor
QUOTE (PHISH @ Jun 9 2006, 12:15 PM) *
I agree with Idiot. Ann Coulter is a vicious b!tch who likes the sound of her own voice.



And Hillary's not? blink.gif
PHISH
This isn't a thread about Hillary. If you want to discuss Hillary, go start another thread. tongue.gif
cfulmor
QUOTE (PHISH @ Jun 9 2006, 12:36 PM) *
This isn't a thread about Hillary. If you want to discuss Hillary, go start another thread. tongue.gif


Did I touch a nerve there.
The presumptive Democratic Nominee for President.

I hope she gets it. That'll mean 4 more Republican Years
WVDragonlady
I guess I better Google this person. I have no idea who you guys are talking about. I don't watch the morning news shows.
PHISH
QUOTE (cfulmor @ Jun 9 2006, 12:41 PM) *
Did I touch a nerve there.


Nope, not at all. biggrin.gif Just trying to keep things on track. When we are here discussing Ann Coulter, you feel the need to bring up Hillary. Why is that? I guess I understand though, whenever someone mentions Bush, I feel the urge to talk about monkeys. I control it though. laugh.gif
BMIC
Just about everything Ann C has to say is terrific - she's one sexy babe, with brains to match! But lately I've read she has been slandered by both NBC and Hillary Clinton. Frankly I hope she sues them both to kingdom come!
City Park Dad
QUOTE (BMIC @ Jun 9 2006, 02:42 PM) *
she's one sexy babe,


Gotta love that Adam's apple! http://www.rawilson.com/images/coulter.jpg
PHISH


"That's no woman! It's a man baby!" laugh.gif
BMIC
QUOTE (City Park Dad @ Jun 9 2006, 03:48 PM) *
Gotta love that Adam's apple! http://www.rawilson.com/images/coulter.jpg

LOL! Is that the best you can do? What a LOSER! I'm sure Ann is very concerned about what you think of her. NOT!
Udmas
http://www.opinionjournal.com/medialog/?id=110004950

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The 9/11 Widows
Americans are beginning to tire of them.

Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:01

"I watched my husband murdered live on TV. . . . At any point in time the casualties could have been lessened, and it seems to me there wasn't even an attempt made."

--Monica Gabrielle

"Three thousand people were murdered on George Bush's watch."

-- Kristin Breitweiser

No one by now needs briefings on the identities of the commentators quoted above. The core group of widows led by the foursome known as "The Jersey Girls," credited with bringing the 9/11 Commission into being, are by now world famous. Their already established status in the media, as a small but heroically determined band of sisters speaking truth to power, reached ever greater heights last week, when National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice made her appearance at a commission session--an event that would not have taken place, it was understood, without the pressure from the widows. Television interviewers everywhere scrambled to land these guests--a far cry from the time, last June, when group leader Kristin Breitweiser spoke of her disappointment in the press, complaining to one journalist, "I've been scheduled to go on 'Meet the Press' and 'Hardball' so many times, and I'm always canceled."

No one is canceling her these days. The night of Ms. Rice's appearance, the Jersey Girls appeared on "Hardball," to charge that the national security adviser had failed to do her job, that the government failed to provide a timely military response, that the president had spent time reading to schoolchildren after learning of the attack, that intelligence agencies had failed to connect the dots. Others who had lost family to the terrorists' assault commanded little to no interest from TV interviewers. Debra Burlingame--lifelong Democrat, sister of Charles F. "Chic" Burlingame III, captain of American Airlines flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon on Sept. 11, did manage to land an interview after Ms. Rice's appearance. When she had finished airing her views critical of the accusatory tone and tactics of the Jersey Girls, her interviewer, ABC congressional reporter Linda Douglass marveled, "This is the first time I've heard this point of view."

That shouldn't have been surprising. The hearing room that day had seen a substantial group of 9/11 families, similarly irate over the Jersey Girls and their accusations--families that made their feelings evident in their burst of loud applause when Ms. Rice scored a telling zinger under questioning. But these were not the 9/11 voices TV and newspaper editors were interested in. They had chosen to tell a different story--that of four intrepid New Jersey housewives who had, as one news report had it, brought an administration "to its knees"--and that was, as far as they were concerned, the only story.

A fair number of the Americans not working in the media may, on the other hand, by now be experiencing Jersey Girls Fatigue--or taking a hard look at the pronouncements of the widows. Statements like that of Monica Gabrielle, for example (not one of the Jersey Girls, though an activist of similar persuasion), who declared that she could discern no attempt to lessen the casualties on Sept. 11. What can one make of such a description of the day that saw firefighters by the hundreds lose their lives in valiant attempts to bring people to safety from the burning floors of the World Trade Center--that saw deeds like that of Morgan Stanley's security chief, Rick Rescorla, who escorted 2,700 employees safely out of the South Tower, before he finally lost his own life?

But the best known and most quoted pronouncement of all had come in the form of a question put by the leader of the Jersey Girls. "We simply wanted to know," Ms. Breitweiser said, by way of explaining the group's position, "why our husbands were killed. Why they went to work one day and didn't come back."

The answer, seared into the nation's heart, is that, like some 3,000 others who perished that day, those husbands didn't come home because a cadre of Islamist fanatics wanted to kill as many of the hated American infidels in their tall towers and places of government as they could, and they did so. Clearly, this must be a truth also known to those widows who asked the question--though in no way one would notice.

Who, listening to them, would not be struck by the fact that all their fury and accusation is aimed not at the killers who snuffed out their husbands' and so many other lives, but at the American president, his administration, and an ever wider assortment of targets including the Air Force, the Port Authority, the City of New York? In the public pronouncements of the Jersey Girls we find, indeed, hardly a jot of accusatory rage at the perpetrators of the 9/11 attacks. We have, on the other hand, more than a few declarations like that of Ms. Breitweiser, announcing that "President Bush and his workers . . . were the individuals that failed my husband and the 3,000 people that day."

The venerable status accorded this group of widows comes as no surprise given our times, an age quick to confer both celebrity and authority on those who have suffered. As the experience of the Jersey Girls shows, that authority isn't necessarily limited to matters moral or spiritual. All that the widows have had to say--including wisdom mind-numbingly obvious, or obviously false and irrelevant--on the failures of this or that government agency, on derelictions of duty they charged to the president, the vice president, the national security adviser, Norad and the rest, has been received by most of the media and members of Congress with utmost wonder and admiration. They had become prosecutors and investigators, unearthing clues and connections related to 9/11, with, we're regularly informed, unrivalled dedication and skill.

The day of Ms. Rice's appearance before the Commission, a radiant Gail Sheehy, author of "Hillary's Choice," beamed gratitude as she congratulated the host of "Hardball" for bringing the women on as guests. She had been following the New Jersey moms for two years, Ms. Sheehy said, and they were always leaks ahead--of everyone. She wanted to note, too, "how the moms kept making that point that it was her [Ms. Rice's]job" to inform the president. Another indicator of their expertise.

Ms. Sheehy was hardly alone in her faith in the widows and their special skills. Their every shred of opinion about the hearings last week was actively solicited--as will be true, no doubt, this week. Asked what question she would put to Ms. Rice, if she could, one Jersey Girl answered, after some thought, that it would be, What did she know and when did she know it? The answer wasn't the first to suggest that the nation now confronted a new investigation of government malfeasance, and coverups on the order of Watergate, and that we'd been brought to this cleansing by the work of four New Jersey widows. One NBC journalist ended his summation of Ms. Rice's testimony with an urgent coda: The issue of real significance that day, he explained, would be how the families of the 9/11 victims reacted to her testimony. There would have been no doubt, in the mind of anyone listening, which families he meant.

Really? How can that be?--is the only reasonable response to that claim, which would not have been made in a saner time. How could it be that the most important issue emerging from an inquiry into undeniable intelligence failures, at a time of utmost national peril, was the way the victims' families reacted to the hearings?

Little wonder, given all this, that the 9/11 Four blossomed, under a warm media sun and the attention of legislators, into activists increasingly confident of their authority--that, with every passing month, their list of government agencies and agents guilty of dereliction of duty grew apace.

Out of their loss and tragedy the widows had forged new lives as investigators of 9/11, analysts of what might have been had every agency of government done as it should. No one would begrudge them this solace.

Nor can anyone miss, by now, the darker side of this spectacle of the widows, awash in their sense of victims' entitlement, as they press ahead with ever more strident claims about the way the government failed them.

Yesterday's session of the 9/11 Commission brought an appearance by Attorney General John Ashcroft--a reminder, among other things, of various intriguing questions posed by some of Ms. Breitweiser's analyses (delivered in her testimony before the 2002 congressional committee) of the ways the Sept. 11 attack might have been foiled. If the Federal Aviation Administration had properly alerted passengers to the dangers they faced, she asked, how many victims might have thought twice before boarding an aircraft? And "how many victims would have taken notice of these Middle Eastern men while they were boarding their plane? Could these men have been stopped?"

A good question. One can only imagine how a broadcast of the warning, "Watch out for Middle Eastern men in line near you, as you board your flight," would have gone down in those quarters of the culture daily worried to death about the alleged threat to civil rights posed by profiling and similar steps designed to weed out terrorists. Consider, a veteran political aide mordantly asks, what the response would have been if John Ashcroft had issued a statement calling for such a precaution, prior to Sept. 11.

DOROTHY RABINOWITZ
BMIC
Gee here we go again... one long article after another. Look, we all know that excellent, long detailed articles have been written by others that support both sides of the argument. Must you people hog all of the bandwidth quoting them at length? Most of the time most of us here don't really care to read such long articles. We come here to follow the brief, succinct give and take. As much as I apprecaite Udmas' taking the time to dredge up an appropriate counterpoint to Idiot's typical excessively long post that he didn't even write himself, I really don't appreciate either one. How about if we stick to posting links and a paragraph or two that makes the main point ?
Idiot
QUOTE (BMIC @ Jun 12 2006, 07:34 AM) *
How about if we stick to posting links and a paragraph or two that makes the main point ?

Fair enough, I'll stick with the sh!t sandwich post. It's all anyone needs to know about her and all the time she's worth.
Snoopy
If ya had to spend time on a deserted island, who'd you want there? Idiot, or Ann? laugh.gif

Idiot, you're being your usual eloquent self. Have a nice day!
Udmas
I totally agree B, but after Idiot's post I just had to do it.
samy0
I never knew she was a deadhead. i guess shes a big fan

"Deadheads Are What Liberals Claim to Be But Aren't"
An Interview with Ann Coulter


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