SMan
Jul 17 2006, 03:56 PM
I love to read, but since middle school, I've mostly been a non-fiction, history kind of guy (with the exception of Stephen King and Tom Clancy). Other than the required readings for high school and basic lit classes in college, I haven't read many of the "classics" of literature.
Hit me with some suggestions or point me towards a good link with a definitive list of what you well-read folks consider classics.
Naomi
Jul 17 2006, 04:11 PM
The first book to come to mind is "The Grapes of Wrath." We were forced to read it in high school, and I would fall asleep trying to get through it. Then we watched the movie in class, and sat there making fun of it!
I may enjoy it more now, but I've been to busy with The Fiery Cross.
Let's see, some other's I like as classics are The Adventures of Tom Sawyer (and Huck Finn, of course!), Anne of Green Gables, Gone With the Wind, Little Women Great Expectations and Gulliver's Travels.
phluux
Jul 17 2006, 04:18 PM
Moby Dick
Red Badge of Courage
1984
Yossarian
Jul 17 2006, 04:26 PM
Silas Marner
Catcher In The Rye
Tess of the D'Urbervilles
Animal Farm
Anything by John Updike in the "Rabbit" series
and of course my favorite... "Catch 22" by Joseph Heller
Checkingin
Jul 17 2006, 08:35 PM
SMan,
I like historical novels alot. Tolstoy is really good if you like Russian history. War and Peace and Anna Karenina. Both are long (as classics tend to be) but really interesting and worth reading, IMO.
Since you like Steven King, you would probably like Edgar Allen Poe too. I've read Pit and the Pendulum and Tell Tale Heart in high school. Remember I had trouble sleeping after reading them!
There is a really good sci/fi classic trilogy and right now I am drawing a blank. I will try to remember and tell you later. Also, even though it's a children's book, Wrinkle in Time is really worth reading. There are others by Madeline L'engle also with the same characters as Wrinkle, but can't remember the other names of stories. But, the library should have them. They are about time travel and just great reads!
Also, have you ever read anything by Leon Uris? Not really traditional classics but excellent book.
I've read them all....Exodus was about Israel becoming an independent country. Trinity was about the British/ Irish clash. QBVII was about a Polish doctor in a concentration camp. All are just great and based on history.
I'll get back to you about the other sci/fi when it comes to me!
Checkingin
Jul 17 2006, 09:03 PM
Hubby remembered the names of the trilogy.....
The Space Trilogy by C. S. Lewis
Out of the Silent Planet
Perelandra
That Hideous Strength
Anybody else read these?? I read them years ago, but remember how totally absorbed I was when reading.....like I was really there on these other planets. Good reading and not long.
sheash
Jul 17 2006, 09:11 PM
In high school, I took a Nobel Prize authors class. We read Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Hermann Hesse, Albert Camus, Pearl Buck, William Faulkner, Ernest Hemingway, John Steinbeck, Sinclair Lewis, Thomas Mann, Rudyard Kipling, and George Bernard Shaw - all in 1 semester.
Theoretically, those would be called classics. I remember Solzhenitsyn, To Kill a Mockingbird (Faulkner), and Grapes of Wrath (Steinbeck) - they were OK. I also remember that I hated Hess, Camu, and Buck. I guess the one I liked best was Hemingway's 'The Old Man and the Sea'.
Classics to me are Steven King's 'It' and 'The Stand', and Ken Follett's 'Pillars of the Earth'.
Heather
Jul 17 2006, 09:45 PM
I hate The Grapes of Wrath with pure passion. I read it for my book club, but I struggled so hard with that paper brick. I eventually had to take to reading it aloud to keep myself awake. It just goes into too much detail for me. To give you an idea, it took several pages to describe a turtle crossing the road. I'm an animal lover and I wanted to reach in and grab the damn turtle and pitch it to the other side of the road! Grr!
I loved To Kill a Mockingbird. It has important themes but also makes you laugh. And to reference my children's literature thread, White Fang entranced me as a kid. I still have to think it's worth reading as an adult though. I remember a lot of terrible dog fights in though, so maybe it's not for you. It made me cry.
We had just read Jack Kerouac's On The Road in lit class. Seemed to me it was geared more toward men, but whatever. I like some of the girlie stuff like the Bronte sisters.
In general, I like stuff by Poe and Nathanial Hawthorne. For obvious reasons.

If you want a "classic" horror novel, try I Am Legend by Richard Matheson.
Other than that, you can go to amazon.com and they have lists that users have made geared toward anything specific.
QUOTE (sheash @ Jul 17 2006, 10:11 PM)

Classics to me are Steven King's 'It' and 'The Stand'...
I loved these as well. I actually did a book report on Gerald's Game in high school. I loved doing book reports.
SMan
Jul 17 2006, 09:48 PM
QUOTE (Heather @ Jul 17 2006, 10:45 PM)

Other than that, you can go to amazon.com and they have lists that users have made geared toward anything specific.
Yeah, I nosed around already on amazon. I figured I'd do it here to give it an H/M Forums personal touch.
When I have some time tomorrow, I'm going to go through and make a list with one book (to start with) from each poster in this thread that made me a suggestion, then hit the library, maybe Borders if I have anything left on my gift cards.
peacefrog
Jul 17 2006, 11:18 PM
1. Definitely Catcher In The Rye.
2. Fahrenheit 451
3. Welcome to the Monkey House
2 & 3 aren't exactly classics in the traditional sense, but I consider them classic must-reads. If you're picking one from each person here at H-M, I'd cast MY vote for either Fahrenheit 451 or Welcome To The Monkey House (which is a collection of short stories).
Checkingin
Jul 18 2006, 07:23 AM
This thread has got me motivated too! I'm gonna pick out a few new suggestions and read them. I haven't been able to find a good book lately, kinda the same thing with movies.
Good thing about being older is that I can now pick up the same books I read twenty years ago and reread it as if it's brand new! Can't remember a thing in it!
Let us know what you enjoy, SMan. Love to talk about books. Any recommendations are welcome.
P.S.
It seems like the literature classes in high schools and college pick out the most boring stories to read. A few years ago when my son was taking a lit class at HCC, I decided to read the same stories so we could discuss them. Man, they put me to sleep and I love to read!! Why is that??
Snoopy
Jul 18 2006, 10:56 AM
Classics aren't my cup of tea. Maybe that means I'm a redneck or just unsophisticated.
Right now I ma reading an interesting book called Freakonomics in which a young maveick economist looks at issues like cheating teachers and sumo wrestlers.
For anyone who likes the outdoors, two all-time favorites are a fictional (?) humor book called A Fine and Pleasant Misery by Patrick McManus (all of his books are lol funny) and a safari/african adventure book called Death in the Long Grass (and others) by Peter Hathaway Capstick (non-fiction) where a former wall-street money guy goes to Africa and becomes a professional hunter and government game warden. Riveting stuff.
marco
Jul 18 2006, 12:12 PM
The best thing I've read in awhile is 1491 by Charles Mann. The idea is that the new world was far more populated, maybe by a magnitude of 10, than was previously thought. Instead of a pristine wilderness the Europeans inherited an entirely terra-farmed landscape in North and South America. Most of the Indians died in mass epidemics before the settlers even set foot on the Continent and left behind mounds, weirs, terraces and parklike forests full of nut trees that had been created by people over thousands of years. The research is controversial but if any of it turns out to me true it'll be time to rewrite the history books.
Heather
Jul 18 2006, 04:38 PM
QUOTE (Checkingin @ Jul 18 2006, 08:23 AM)

It seems like the literature classes in high schools and college pick out the most boring stories to read. A few years ago when my son was taking a lit class at HCC, I decided to read the same stories so we could discuss them. Man, they put me to sleep and I love to read!! Why is that??

I took American Literature last semester and let me tell you, I was reading some strange, juvenile things. My professor had us reading these old Native American tales where spirits were bears and other animals. This one bear dressed up in women's clothes and went down to a village to have sex with the chief's son. Then he was found out and got kicked out of camp. He ended up coursed with pooping.

Yes, I said pooping!
He couldn't stop. He pooped so much that he buried himself in it. What kind of goofy stuff is that? I sat at home reading it and thought, this is what I just paid full tuition for. Pooping bears.
Naomi
Jul 18 2006, 08:10 PM
QUOTE (Heather @ Jul 18 2006, 05:38 PM)

My professor had us reading these old Native American tales where spirits were bears and other animals. This one bear dressed up in women's clothes and went down to a village to have sex with the chief's son. Then he was found out and got kicked out of camp. He ended up coursed with pooping.

Yes, I said pooping!
He couldn't stop. He pooped so much that he buried himself in it. What kind of goofy stuff is that? I sat at home reading it and thought, this is what I just paid full tuition for. Pooping bears.

Bwahahahahaha!
The best part is the bear dressed like a woman!

Those Indians did smoke some good stuff in the peace pipe
Snoopy
Jul 19 2006, 10:49 AM
QUOTE (Heather @ Jul 18 2006, 05:38 PM)

QUOTE (Checkingin @ Jul 18 2006, 08:23 AM)

It seems like the literature classes in high schools and college pick out the most boring stories to read. A few years ago when my son was taking a lit class at HCC, I decided to read the same stories so we could discuss them. Man, they put me to sleep and I love to read!! Why is that??

I took American Literature last semester and let me tell you, I was reading some strange, juvenile things. My professor had us reading these old Native American tales where spirits were bears and other animals. This one bear dressed up in women's clothes and went down to a village to have sex with the chief's son. Then he was found out and got kicked out of camp. He ended up coursed with pooping.

Yes, I said pooping!
He couldn't stop. He pooped so much that he buried himself in it. What kind of goofy stuff is that? I sat at home reading it and thought, this is what I just paid full tuition for. Pooping bears.
What kind of BS passes for literature these days?

And a college has you reading it? Which college -- I wanna keep my kids from it.
Yossarian
Jul 19 2006, 10:52 AM
The bear pooping and getting buried in his own poop was probably a metaphor for the H-M forums.
samy0
Jul 19 2006, 11:29 AM
LOOKY LOU
Jul 19 2006, 12:26 PM
The crash of 89
Plato's Republic
Anything by mark Twain.
Pops
Jul 19 2006, 01:14 PM
Anything by H. G. Wells.
The Holy Terror provides some food for thought with current international events.
Heather
Jul 19 2006, 06:09 PM
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Jul 19 2006, 11:49 AM)

What kind of BS passes for literature these days?

And a college has you reading it? Which college -- I wanna keep my kids from it.
The class was History of American Literature at Shepherd University. It was toward the beginning of the semester...showing the earliest form of literature in America...which, of course, was Native American.
Googled it for you...
Link."In the Native American oral tradition, the vulgar but sacred Trickster assumes many forms. He can be Old-Man Coyote among the Crow tribes, Raven in northwestern Indian lore, or, more generically, "The Tricky One" (such as Wakdjunkaga among the Winnebago or Manabozho among the Menomini), to mention just a few of his manifestations.
As will be suggested by the tales below, Trickster alternately scandalizes, disgusts, amuses, disrupts, chastises, and humiliates (or is humiliated by) the animal-like proto-people of pre-history, yet he is also a creative force transforming their world, sometimes in bizarre and outrageous ways, with his instinctive energies and cunning. Eternally scavenging for food, he represents the most basic instincts, but in other narratives, he is also the father of the Indian people and a potent conductor of spiritual forces in the form of sacred dreams." I found this on there too -
"§6. Trickster's Anus Guards the Ducks. Trickster comes upon a flock of ducks by a lake. He tricks them into dancing with their eyes closed. During the dance he kills most of them, then sets them to roasting over a fire. While they cook, he goes to sleep after appointing his anus to guard the meat. When a group of foxes chances upon the scene, the anus attempts to drive them off by flatulating, but to no avail. The foxes eat all the ducks. When Trickster awakens, he is so angry with his anus that he burns it with a brand from the fire. Then, as he walks along, he sees pieces of cooked fat on the trail, which he eats. He discover, much to his surprise, that these pieces of meat are fragments of his own burned intestines."
Pops
Jul 19 2006, 07:15 PM
I think I'll wait for the movie.
SMan
Jul 19 2006, 09:08 PM
Here's my starter list in no particular order. I hope to grab a couple by the weekend. Thanks all! Keep 'em coming.
-The Adventures of Tom Sawyer
-Moby Dick-Red Badge of Courage
-Catch 22
-Pit and the Pendulum
-Tell Tale Heart
-The Old Man and the Sea
-Fahrenheit 451
-something by H.G. Wells, though I've read a few of his
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Jul 18 2006, 11:56 AM)

Right now I am reading an interesting book called Freakonomics in which a young maveick economist looks at issues like cheating teachers and sumo wrestlers.
I read that last year. It definitely has some interesting theories. The most intriguing to me was the author's connection between the increase in abortions following Roe v. Wade and the large decrease in crime in the 1990's.
Heather
Jul 19 2006, 09:38 PM
QUOTE (Heather @ Jul 17 2006, 10:45 PM)

If you want a "classic" horror novel, try I Am Legend by Richard Matheson.
linkRidley Scott
almost directed, but Johnny Depp is set to play lead character.
:faints:
Naomi
Jul 20 2006, 07:54 AM
QUOTE (Heather @ Jul 19 2006, 10:38 PM)

QUOTE (Heather @ Jul 17 2006, 10:45 PM)

If you want a "classic" horror novel, try I Am Legend by Richard Matheson.
linkRidley Scott
almost directed, but Johnny Depp is set to play lead character.
:faints:
Johnny Depp is hot...and his career is even hotter!
Great selection of books SMan!
peacefrog
Jul 20 2006, 10:02 AM
Dude... I so tried to read Moby Dick about a year ago. Bought a copy, snuggled on the couch. Never made it past the first page. Something about that book makes me snore.... zzzzzzzz..... But I hope I might read it some day.... Just to say I have.
millennium
Jul 20 2006, 08:45 PM
QUOTE (sheash @ Jul 17 2006, 09:11 PM)

To Kill a Mockingbird (Faulkner),
Faulkner didn't write To Kill a Mockingbird.
The author is Harper Lee.
sheash
Jul 21 2006, 07:36 AM
OOOH, you're right! I wonder what class I read To Kill a Mockingbird in......
I went back and looked at the list of Faulkner's works. We read the Sound and the Fury. It must have been quite a book - I don't even remember it!
SMan
Jul 31 2006, 09:44 PM
I picked up my first batch of books today.....Moby Dick, Tom Sawyer, and Catch 22. I've decided to buy the cheap paperbacks of most of the books I get so that I can pass them on to some nephews I have that are starting to get into reading.
peacefrog
Aug 22 2006, 10:31 AM
Sman... how's the reading going?
SMan
Aug 22 2006, 10:39 AM
I just finished Moby Dick the other day. It took forever and to me, was a difficult read. Not difficult as in I don't understand the words, but difficult as in the writing style was kind of hard to follow along with. Maybe it's just my adult ADD kicking in.....
Cut away all of the chapters about the history of boats and whaling and the zoology of whales and there is a good adventure story in there. Not a great story, a good story.
peacefrog
Aug 22 2006, 11:12 AM
I've tried to read Moby Dick, and just found it boring. But then again, I can't say I like a lot of "classic" literature. J.D. Salinger is about as "classic" as I like. Although I do give props to Wuthering Heights, Shakespeare and Steinbeck. Wait... is Steinbeck "classic" lit??
Heather
Aug 22 2006, 04:23 PM
QUOTE (peacefrog @ Aug 22 2006, 12:12 PM)

I've tried to read Moby Dick, and just found it boring. But then again, I can't say I like a lot of "classic" literature. J.D. Salinger is about as "classic" as I like. Although I do give props to Wuthering Heights, Shakespeare and Steinbeck. Wait... is Steinbeck "classic" lit??

It took my mom forever to read Moby Dick too. In the end, she was glad she read it.
Don't get me started on Steinbeck! Actually, I have a funny story about this. I was talking to a friend one day about this cool song by Rage Against the Machine called "The Ghost of Tom Jones."
He laughed at me and then cursed me for not knowing the song is about The Grapes of Wrath and Tom Joad.
Checkingin
Aug 24 2006, 06:24 AM
Brand new author, Jennifer Lauck. Her first book is Blackbird. (theme of book reflects this Beatles' song....."take these broken wings and fly!"
True story of her life from her perspective as a little girl. Really tragic, yet amazing how strong and independent she becomes.
Sequel will be out soon.
Her photo on the back cover looks alot like Jennifer Anniston.
And on the murder mystery scene....
Read a good one by my favorite female author, Lisa Scottoline. She was a trial lawyer in real life, a die-hard Philladelphian and first generation Italian. She uses all that culture in her novels. She is a female John Grisham with a cheeky attitude! Really easy reading and fast paced. The one I just finished is called Devil's Corner. Deals with drugs, and AFT, and a bunch of murders to be solved. Anything she writes is fun to read. I think I wrote in this thread, earlier, about her. My favorite of hers is Courting Trouble. So funny. Has an Italian mother, in the story, who is always cooking tomato sauce, and she has the gift of the "evil eye" and drives her daughter crazy, of course. Also, one of the female lawyers is an "I love Lucy" fanatic and recites episodes as a way to destress. So, funny. You'll love the lawyers in this one.
Checkingin
Aug 25 2006, 06:23 AM
Ooooppps! The books I recommended aren't classics, but I couldn't find the thread where we were all recommending books. Oh well, move it mods, if you want to. Thanks.
samy0
Aug 25 2006, 01:26 PM
Has anyone read Running with scissors? I've wanted to read this for 3 years and now that I have it I am tremendously disappointed. If you haven't read it don't bother
Checkingin
Aug 25 2006, 01:36 PM
Samyo,
Who's the author? I never remember the names of the books. What's it about?
samy0
Aug 25 2006, 01:43 PM
Augusten Burroughs
Autobiography about a 12 year old boy with two parents that are both psychiatric patients waiting to happen. His mother gave him to her shrink to be raised and the shrink was just as crazy as the mother. It was supposed to be funny but it is depressing in my opinion.
Naomi
Aug 25 2006, 01:44 PM
Sounds depressing
Checkingin
Aug 25 2006, 01:54 PM
Kinda reminds me of my reaction to Angela's Ashes. Heard about the author and his Irish sense of humor and thought it would be a Lively book to read. Well, it had it's moments, but it was soooo depressing to me. Frank McCourt is a good writer, though. Just so tragic in many ways.
Makes me appreciate the dysfunctional family I grew up in, more and more!
samy0
Aug 25 2006, 01:56 PM
The most depressing part is he is gay and it seems he spends his entire youth being used by adults. Just not my type of enjoyable material. I'm on pg. 227 and I'm still waiting for the funny parts. i must warn you it is also very graphic. I've closed it several times for a day or so.
phluux
Aug 25 2006, 03:48 PM
Heather
Aug 25 2006, 04:10 PM
QUOTE (samy0 @ Aug 25 2006, 02:56 PM)

The most depressing part is he is gay and ...
Word choice?
samy0
Aug 25 2006, 05:33 PM
QUOTE (Heather @ Aug 25 2006, 05:10 PM)

QUOTE (samy0 @ Aug 25 2006, 02:56 PM)

The most depressing part is he is gay and ...
Word choice?
Should I have said heterosexually challenged?

The gay angle is just another reason I couldnt relate to the character very well. The sad part was every adult he comes into contact with seems to use himfor one thing or another. A 13 year old boy with a 35 year old boyfriend is depressing enough but even worse when every adukt he knows thinks its ok. This is just a seriously bummer book. I'm surprised he hasnt killed himself yet. Then again Ive still got a hundred pages to go
Checkingin
Aug 25 2006, 07:55 PM
On a happier note, has anyone read James Herriot novels?? All you animal lovers on here would enjoy his books. He was a veterinarian from Yorkshire, England and writes about his experiences with all kinds of animals on the farms and in the homes.
Also, says alot about his whiskey too!
All Creatures Great and Small
All Things Bright and Beautiful
They are great reads.
jelsey
Aug 28 2006, 01:46 PM
Two "new" classics that my favorite librarian (Nancy @ Blue Ridge Summit Library) recommended are DRAGON RIDER (a young adult book, but a GREAT read!), and THE FIVE PEOPLE YOU MEET IN HEAVEN (same guy that wrote TUESDAYS WITH MORRIE).
Sorry, I can't recall the authors.
I got blissfully lost in both of them - I recommend them to anyone needing a happy escape.
Heather
Aug 28 2006, 06:30 PM
QUOTE (Checkingin @ Aug 25 2006, 08:55 PM)

On a happier note, has anyone read James Herriot novels?? All you animal lovers on here would enjoy his books. He was a veterinarian from Yorkshire, England and writes about his experiences with all kinds of animals on the farms and in the homes.
Also, says alot about his whiskey too!
All Creatures Great and Small
All Things Bright and Beautiful
They are great reads.
I read those when I was little. I love them. There were more than two in the series though. All Things Wise and Wonderful, maybe? I'm thinking there were four.
I didn't care for The Five People You Meet in Heaven. It seemed a bit preachy to me.
Checkingin
Aug 29 2006, 05:11 PM
Wasn't The Five People You Meet in Heaven made into a movie, recently? I can't remember what it was about though!
Oky Doky
Aug 29 2006, 05:33 PM
I know this is supposed to be about Classics but.....I read The Lifeguard by James Patterson in 2 days on the beach this month, and anything by him is great!
You see I Love love love to read mysteries.
samy0
Aug 29 2006, 06:35 PM
I also read Lifeguard good read and I love Patterson too. Ive read all his books. 5 people was also a great read
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