peacefrog
Sep 16 2006, 06:32 PM
I just started using Firefox, and I gotta say: I'm a fan.
It's faster. And I like it.
However, I'm not so sure about the 'tabs.' Could be because I'm not used to them yet.
In IE, I'd just open new windows and then "tab" to them from the taskbar at the bottom of my screen.
In Firefox, I get tabs at the top of the browser.
I don't really see what the difference is.
Can anyone enlighten me?
tagout
Sep 16 2006, 06:42 PM
whats fire fox do? cant be any faster then your internet suppy
mstubble
Sep 16 2006, 07:15 PM
People like FireFox because it is supposed to do a better job at protecting you from viruses, spyware and pop-ups.
WVDragonlady
Sep 16 2006, 07:15 PM
Fire fox certainly loads the pages faster than I.E ever did. The tab thingy,I just figure IE is at the bottom,FF is at the top. No biggy. I like the fact that FF stops the cookies and I get to decide if I want so-n-so's cookies on my puter. Silly,I know,but it just makes me feel more in control. I like all the add ons you can get too. I just added a new theme for the tool bar. the Halloween one. It's cute

I've never thought FF's tabs were superior, just different than IE location wise. I mean, with IE you just have to collapse the windows if ya want. No biggy.
phluux
Sep 17 2006, 12:30 AM
I prefer FireFox over IE however that may change once I fiddle with IE7 more (tabbed browsing and other features).
People seem to think that FireFox is more secure than IE. This is not true; it just hasn't had enough market share to warrant significant spyware development. FireFox's cookie management is actually worse than IE, especially session cookies. The IE7 anti-phishing is also superior to the one included in FireFox 2.
While FireFox does offer extensions, they are not always signed so there is certainly a security/performance risk. Untabbed, FireFox already uses a good amount of memory. With extensions installed and multiple tabs, you'll definitely start to notice a decrease in performance if you're a multitasker like myself. IE7 has add-ons as well. (www.ieaddons.com)
Technically, FireFox 1.5 is slower than IE in regards to cold start, warm start, rendering tables and rendering CSS. FireFox is faster at loading multiple images and reading scripts. FireFox 2 (available to developers) is even a little slower than FireFox 1.5. Page load times on any browser are insignificant on a fast machine though.
One other issue with FireFox is that while it is more standard-compliant than IE, not all developers test sites using both browsers. It's not uncommon to visit a site that looks fine in both browsers, but has some functionality issues in FireFox.
Currently you need to install multiple extensions to add features to tabbed browsing in FireFox 1.5. In FireFox 2, all of these features will be included and right now IE7 doesn't include all of the same features.
The two main reasons I prefer FireFox is: habit and it's open source (not Microsoft). When its all said and done, the gap between the two browsers is almost non-existent and each group's supporters will argue to the death that their browser is better.
Opera, while I have mainly only used it for testing, is another legitimate, stable browser with lots of features. I just don't know enough details about it in order to break it down.
Wrangler3
Sep 17 2006, 08:24 AM
I tried to like Firefox but it doesn't run nearly as good as IE on my computers. Tab browsing is ok but if one tab crashes all of them disappear. With several IE windows open only the one that crashes goes away. I use IE 7RC1 but still don't use tabs all that much. Plus many pages I visit dont showup correctly in Firefox. I think it is more of whatever people like. Some don't like Microsoft because they think its not secure or stable. It is just as secure and stable as other software, it is more the users that cause their own problems.
City Park Dad
Sep 17 2006, 08:29 AM
QUOTE (Wrangler3 @ Sep 17 2006, 09:24 AM)

I tried to like Firefox but it doesn't run nearly as good as IE on my computers. Tab browsing is ok but if one tab crashes all of them disappear. With several IE windows open only the one that crashes goes away. I use IE 7RC1 but still don't use tabs all that much. Plus many pages I visit dont showup correctly in Firefox. I think it is more of whatever people like. Some don't like Microsoft because they think its not secure or stable. It is just as secure and stable as other software, it is more the users that cause their own problems.
I haven't tried IE 7 yet, does it have a feature like Firefox that deletes cache, temp files and other private data?
Wrangler3
Sep 17 2006, 11:30 AM
QUOTE (City Park Dad @ Sep 17 2006, 09:29 AM)

QUOTE (Wrangler3 @ Sep 17 2006, 09:24 AM)

I tried to like Firefox but it doesn't run nearly as good as IE on my computers. Tab browsing is ok but if one tab crashes all of them disappear. With several IE windows open only the one that crashes goes away. I use IE 7RC1 but still don't use tabs all that much. Plus many pages I visit dont showup correctly in Firefox. I think it is more of whatever people like. Some don't like Microsoft because they think its not secure or stable. It is just as secure and stable as other software, it is more the users that cause their own problems.
I haven't tried IE 7 yet, does it have a feature like Firefox that deletes cache, temp files and other private data?
No it doesn't have that convenient window like Firefox does by default yet, not sure if it is available as an addon. Thats not all important for someone like me but I could see where that would be beneficial to some people. I will admit that is a nice feature.
Udmas
Sep 17 2006, 01:10 PM
The main reason I like Firefox is the no script add on.
The last version of I.E. I downloaded was the third beta, it worked fine, but I didn't mess with the add on’s so I figure I'll wait for the release then spend a little time with it and make a decision.
City Park Dad
Oct 2 2006, 08:47 AM
Saw this today:
http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6121608.html Interestingly it says the flaw is impossible to patch! I am pretty sure the No Script add on will block this.
coma
Oct 2 2006, 09:35 AM
As matter of fact, Firefox is more vulnerable to attacks than IE, it just hasn't been targetted enough. If black hats decide to target Firefox (the more market share that Firefox gets = more users to exploit), you can be sure that they will be scrambling like mad to fix it, and since it's source code is available, it will probably be much more difficult to patch than IE.
I like Firefox and from one developer to another I respect the folks behind Mozilla, but Firefox is just as vulnerable, if not moreso, than IE.
Yossarian
Oct 5 2006, 05:41 PM
A public claim by hackers that Mozilla's Firefox browser is vulnerable to multiple code execution vulnerabilities may be an overblown hoax.
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2023762,00.asp
Tony Campello
Oct 9 2006, 08:52 PM
I have been using Opera alot and really do like it.
City Park Dad
Oct 20 2006, 07:15 AM
FYI: IE 7 is out of beta. Got the final release yesterday.
Yossarian
Oct 20 2006, 03:56 PM
and already some of the tech rags are advising people to stay away from it....
http://reviews.cnet.com/Internet_Explorer_...tml?tag=nl.e501
Udmas
Oct 20 2006, 05:35 PM
And what does Cnet recommend?
Firefox
Wrangler3
Oct 23 2006, 05:13 PM
QUOTE
But for a truly secure Internet browser with more features, we still recommend Mozilla Firefox.
City Park Dad
Oct 23 2006, 06:10 PM
Firefox 2 is due out Tues. Oct 24th.
City Park Dad
Oct 25 2006, 08:26 AM

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