Pops
Sep 23 2006, 11:51 AM
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France to probe bin Laden death report leak
Sat Sep 23, 2006 05:44 AM ET
PARIS (Reuters) - France's Defense Ministry said on Saturday a secret service report saying al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden had died could not be confirmed but said it would launch an inquiry into the leak of secret documents.
The Defense Ministry issued the statement after a French regional newspaper, L'Est Republicain, published a report quoting a French secret service report as saying Saudi Arabia is convinced al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden died of typhoid in Pakistan last month.
"The information published this morning in the L'Est Republicain newspaper relating to the supposed death of Osama bin Laden cannot be confirmed," the Defense Ministry said.
"The Defense Minister (Michele Alliot-Marie) has asked that an inquiry be carried out to determine the origin of the leak that can be punished by criminal charges."
The newspaper printed what it said was a copy of the report dated September 21 and said it was shown to President Jacques Chirac, Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin and France's interior and defense ministers on the same day.
"According to a usually reliable source, the Saudi services are now convinced that Osama bin Laden is dead," the document said.
"The information gathered by the Saudis indicates that the head of al Qaeda was a victim while he was in Pakistan on August 23, 2006, of a very serious case of typhoid which led to a partial paralysis of his internal organs."
The report, which was stamped with a "confidential defense" label and the initials of the French secret service, said Saudi Arabia first heard the information on September 4 and that it was waiting for more details before making an official announcement.
A senior official in Pakistan said no foreign government had shared information with Pakistan that would back up the report of bin Laden's death.
Saudi-born bin Laden was based in Afghanistan until the Taliban government there was overthrown by U.S.-backed forces in 2001. Since then, U.S. and Pakistani officials have regularly said they believe he is hiding somewhere on the rugged border between Afghanistan and Pakistan.
The last videotaped message released by bin Laden was in late 2004, but there have been several low quality audio tapes released this year.
When do you think they’ll make the official announcement?
Pops
Sep 23 2006, 02:54 PM
tagout
Sep 24 2006, 10:55 AM
hes not dead, he lives in the usa, he drove right across the border, 1,500 dollars anyone can drive right on through,
coma
Sep 25 2006, 07:37 AM
Who cares; Saddam is the real threat. Right?
cfulmor
Sep 25 2006, 07:46 AM
QUOTE (coma @ Sep 25 2006, 08:37 AM)

Who cares; Saddam is the real threat. Right?
Not anymore, we took care of him, get up to speed.
Pops
Sep 25 2006, 09:34 AM
QUOTE (cfulmor @ Sep 25 2006, 08:46 AM)

Not anymore, we took care of him...
Over 2700 Americans killed in Iraq and Saddam still lives.
Over 2800 Americans killed on 9/11 and Osama still lives.
Looks like we've taken care of both of them.
cfulmor
Sep 25 2006, 09:56 AM
QUOTE (Pops @ Sep 25 2006, 10:34 AM)

QUOTE (cfulmor @ Sep 25 2006, 08:46 AM)

Not anymore, we took care of him...
Over 2700 Americans killed in Iraq and Saddam still lives.
Over 2800 Americans killed on 9/11 and Osama still lives.
Looks like we've taken care of both of them.
Sadam nuetralized and on trial.
Osama in hiding, potentially gravely ill, I'd say neutralized.
FREEDOM ISN'T FREE!!!
tagout
Sep 25 2006, 10:25 AM
i think if they both die it would not change a thing, there is always somone there to take there place, i just seems like we hit a brick wall. we need a better plan . i dont know what it would take.
Snoopy
Sep 25 2006, 10:45 AM
QUOTE (Pops @ Sep 25 2006, 10:34 AM)

QUOTE (cfulmor @ Sep 25 2006, 08:46 AM)

Not anymore, we took care of him...
Over 2700 Americans killed in Iraq and Saddam still lives.
Over 2800 Americans killed on 9/11 and Osama still lives.
Looks like we've taken care of both of them.
Yeah, Pops, your kinda thinking woulda got us reeeeal far in WWII.
Pops
Sep 25 2006, 12:27 PM
QUOTE (cfulmor @ Sep 25 2006, 10:56 AM)

Sadam nuetralized and on trial.
Osama in hiding, potentially gravely ill, I'd say neutralized.
Then what are we so afraid of?
QUOTE (cfulmor @ Sep 25 2006, 10:56 AM)

FREEDOM ISN'T FREE!!!
It never ceases to amaze me how many right-wing arguments can be found on bumper stickers.
cfulmor
Sep 25 2006, 12:45 PM
Well it was that one or Kum-by-ya Didn't work.
samy0
Sep 25 2006, 01:11 PM
QUOTE (tagout @ Sep 25 2006, 11:25 AM)

i think if they both die it would not change a thing, there is always somone there to take there place, i just seems like we hit a brick wall. we need a better plan . i dont know what it would take.
I couldn't agree more. Osama and Saddam are just figureheads for a movement. if they were to die I think it would only intensify the situation. They will be looked upon as martyrs and there will be thousands if not millions who will gladly strap on a bomb and blow themselves and anyone else they can take with them straight to allah! I also agree on needing a better plan. I can't tell you what that plan is but it better be good and someone better come up with it fairly quickly.
coma
Sep 25 2006, 02:05 PM
If it were my choice, I would probably wake up on a Monday morning (cranky that the weekend is over) say, "ah hell with it" and let the nukes fly worldwide; no one would be safe.
After all, you don't get to be supreme ruler of the world by being nice to people.
Maybe I would get a cool name too.. you know, like Attila the Hun, Conan the Barbarian, or Dr. Doom.
millennium
Sep 25 2006, 10:41 PM
World War II is over. We're in Iraq, now.
GMAN
Sep 26 2006, 10:30 AM
He's not dead.
Osama and Elvis own a 7-11 in in New Jersey
samy0
Sep 26 2006, 11:02 AM
QUOTE (GMAN @ Sep 26 2006, 11:30 AM)

He's not dead.
Osama and Elvis own a 7-11 in in New Jersey

Jim Morrison runs the 11p-7a shift
txexpatriot
Sep 26 2006, 02:03 PM
You know this is a credible source:
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DUBAI (Reuters) - Dubai-based Al Arabiya television on Tuesday quoted a Taliban official as saying al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden was alive and in good health.
The Arabic channel said its Pakistan bureau had received a call from the unnamed Taliban official a few days after a leaked French secret document said Saudi intelligence believed bin Laden died last month in Pakistan.
"The official said bin Laden was alive and that reports that he is ill are not true," said Bakr Atyani, Al Arabiya's Islamabad correspondent. "The Taliban checked with members who are close to al Qaeda that these reports are baseless."
Long Live the King--isn't he hiding in Vegas somewhere??
Snoopy
Sep 27 2006, 10:49 AM
QUOTE (millennium @ Sep 25 2006, 11:41 PM)

World War II is over. We're in Iraq, now.
So we should just give up on what is possibly WWIII? Is there anything that would embolden the radical muslims more than for the US to bug-out of Iraq right now?
Will killing Osama win the war/stop the fighting? Not likely -- but it will help just like killing leadership in any org slows it down. Killing Hitler by itself would not have ended WWII.
millennium
Sep 27 2006, 11:33 AM
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Sep 27 2006, 10:49 AM)

QUOTE (millennium @ Sep 25 2006, 11:41 PM)

World War II is over. We're in Iraq, now.
So we should just give up on what is possibly WWIII? Is there anything that would embolden the radical muslims more than for the US to bug-out of Iraq right now?
Will killing Osama win the war/stop the fighting? Not likely -- but it will help just like killing leadership in any org slows it down. Killing Hitler by itself would not have ended WWII.
After WWII we fought Communism.
In Southeast Asia we fought it with a war.
In Eastern Europe we fought it without a war.
Which is the better example of democracy today?
Realizing a strategy isn't working isn't giving up.
Snoopy
Sep 27 2006, 11:59 AM
If we would have run from every war the economic front would have had no chance.
So Mill...give us your strategy -- in detail.
txexpatriot
Sep 27 2006, 12:09 PM
Snoopy--
We'd all be still UK citizens..or this country would not have existed. Read John Adams...
Idiot
Sep 28 2006, 08:36 PM
I wouldn't feel too bad mill. He's been ignoring everyone who doesn't argee with him for years.
tagout
Sep 29 2006, 03:37 AM
bushes new plan,, mixico canada, usa, will merge remove the borders and have one big country, this being done in secret,
webbie
Sep 29 2006, 08:01 AM
QUOTE (Idiot @ Sep 28 2006, 09:36 PM)

I wouldn't feel too bad mill. He's been ignoring everyone who doesn't argee with him for years.

I wonder if I was married to Snoopy in the past....
QUOTE (tagout @ Sep 29 2006, 04:37 AM)

bushes new plan,, mixico canada, usa, will merge remove the borders and have one big country, this being done in secret,
hey, we can call it MixUsAnada!
webbie
Sep 29 2006, 08:39 AM
I am cleaning up this topic. cfulmor and millenium, please stop it.
cfulmor
Sep 29 2006, 08:41 AM
Yes ma'am.
In my Opinion, you missed one above.
webbie
Sep 29 2006, 08:44 AM
Thank you, actually, I think I had missed two.
Snoopy
Sep 29 2006, 11:01 AM
QUOTE (webbie @ Sep 29 2006, 09:01 AM)

QUOTE (Idiot @ Sep 28 2006, 09:36 PM)

I wouldn't feel too bad mill. He's been ignoring everyone who doesn't argee with him for years.

I wonder if I was married to Snoopy in the past....
Okay, Webbie, if you are gonna reference a post about me -- especially one with a little dig -- you ought to leave it, not delete it. I used no profanity, and I didn't start it.
QUOTE (Idiot @ Sep 28 2006, 09:36 PM)

I wouldn't feel too bad mill. He's been ignoring everyone who doesn't argee with him for years.

What can we do to get you to ban yourself (again) Idiot?
Checkingin
Sep 29 2006, 09:57 PM
Y'all be nice, now! Too many people are leaving. Everybody clean up their own act and all will be well. No pointing fingers.....you know the rest!
Ok, altogether now,
Kum-by-ya........
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