Scientists today moved the minute- hand on the symbolic ``Doomsday Clock'' to five minutes to midnight, to indicate growing concerns about the global nuclear threat.
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Scientists today moved the minute- hand on the symbolic ``Doomsday Clock'' to five minutes to midnight, to indicate growing concerns about the global nuclear threat.
Scientists today moved the minute- hand on the symbolic ``Doomsday Clock'' to five minutes to midnight, to indicate growing concerns about the global nuclear threat.
Well when it happens you won`t hear the clock strike 12.
This part of the state is ground Zero. Because of the location to Washington DC.
Also 3 other things in the area.
This part of the state is ground Zero. Because of the location to Washington DC.
Also 3 other things in the area.
Big deal. They said in the dark ages "the end is near"...They said in the 70's we would be out of oil by 1985..They said we would be all frozen by 2000...
WHO CARES??
WHO CARES??
We were at 2 minutes for 7 years in the 50s and 3 or 4 minutes for 7 years in the 80s, so we're pretty safe now.
The wacky doomsayers will do anything to get in front of cameras, hence their clock gimmick.
QUOTE (Idiot @ Jan 18 2007, 11:09 AM) 
We were at 2 minutes for 7 years in the 50s and 3 or 4 minutes for 7 years in the 80s, so we're pretty safe now.
At least N. Korea stopped making nukes.
QUOTE (Mcgee @ Jan 17 2007, 10:59 PM)
Well when it happens you won`t hear the clock strike 12.
This part of the state is ground Zero. Because of the location to Washington DC.
Also 3 other things in the area.
This part of the state is ground Zero. Because of the location to Washington DC.
Also 3 other things in the area.
Hey McGee,
What are the other three things??
If there ever is a nuke on it's way, I'd rather be right under it's nose! If I'm sleeping, don't
wake me up.
I can think of 2
1. Site R (which most believe is outdated and irrelevant)
2. Camp David ( I don't see anyone wasting a nuke on that though)
1. Site R (which most believe is outdated and irrelevant)
2. Camp David ( I don't see anyone wasting a nuke on that though)
Unless we have some hidden nukes somewhere ( and that's always a possibility), I don't see our area as a target.
Being so close to DC though...
I always tell myself that we got "mountains" between here and DC to protect us. Nice to believe in fantasies sometimes!
Being so close to DC though...
I always tell myself that we got "mountains" between here and DC to protect us. Nice to believe in fantasies sometimes!
QUOTE (lil @ Feb 26 2007, 05:29 PM)
At least N. Korea stopped making nukes.
I wouldn't believe that lil'moms.
Checking,
1- Site ®
2- Fort D in Frederick
3- DC.
90 mile area from the blast site is ground zero.
There is also a little unknown place in Western Md. (large Fuel dump)
1- Site ®
2- Fort D in Frederick
3- DC.
90 mile area from the blast site is ground zero.
There is also a little unknown place in Western Md. (large Fuel dump)
QUOTE (lil @ Feb 26 2007, 05:29 PM)
QUOTE (Idiot @ Jan 18 2007, 11:09 AM)
We were at 2 minutes for 7 years in the 50s and 3 or 4 minutes for 7 years in the 80s, so we're pretty safe now.
At least N. Korea stopped making nukes.
What source are you relying on for that, or is it your own considered opinion?
I'm not knocking it or anything, I'm just curious. Either way it's just as valid as any other theory to me.
It's also closer to the official CIA analysis of the situation.
QUOTE (Checkingin @ Feb 26 2007, 05:57 PM)
Unless we have some hidden nukes somewhere ( and that's always a possibility), I don't see our area as a target.
Being so close to DC though...
I always tell myself that we got "mountains" between here and DC to protect us. Nice to believe in fantasies sometimes!
Being so close to DC though...
I always tell myself that we got "mountains" between here and DC to protect us. Nice to believe in fantasies sometimes!
Well, the mayor said that we r outside the 50-mile radius.
QUOTE (Idiot @ Feb 26 2007, 08:27 PM)
QUOTE (lil @ Feb 26 2007, 05:29 PM)
QUOTE (Idiot @ Jan 18 2007, 11:09 AM)
We were at 2 minutes for 7 years in the 50s and 3 or 4 minutes for 7 years in the 80s, so we're pretty safe now.
At least N. Korea stopped making nukes.
What source are you relying on for that, or is it your own considered opinion?
I'm not knocking it or anything, I'm just curious. Either way it's just as valid as any other theory to me.
It's also closer to the official CIA analysis of the situation.
As for that, I got it from one of our class discussions about editorial cartoons on current event day from my social stdies teacher.
McGee--are you giving away state secrets? Watch it--maybe big bro is here watching.
Lil Moms--remember those who can't do, teach.. and when I was at college, the party schools that accepted anyone were the teaching colleges...
And we live closer to major targets than you probably realize...
Lil Moms--remember those who can't do, teach.. and when I was at college, the party schools that accepted anyone were the teaching colleges...
And we live closer to major targets than you probably realize...
QUOTE (Mcgee @ Feb 26 2007, 07:24 PM)
There is also a little unknown place in Western Md. (large Fuel dump)
Is that military? Never heard of it.
What's inside the fenced-in area up at Lamb's Knoll?
QUOTE (Idiot @ Feb 26 2007, 08:27 PM)
QUOTE (lil @ Feb 26 2007, 05:29 PM)
QUOTE (Idiot @ Jan 18 2007, 11:09 AM)
We were at 2 minutes for 7 years in the 50s and 3 or 4 minutes for 7 years in the 80s, so we're pretty safe now.
At least N. Korea stopped making nukes.
What source are you relying on for that, or is it your own considered opinion?
I'm not knocking it or anything, I'm just curious. Either way it's just as valid as any other theory to me.
It's also closer to the official CIA analysis of the situation.
Shes 12 years old! Please dont start her down the "whole government is lying and conspiring against us" road
Samy--so you agree with me...and my rounding error..
QUOTE (txexpatriot @ Feb 27 2007, 01:17 PM)
Samy--so you agree with me...and my rounding error..
absolutely
I agree that shes too young to start hearing "conspiracy theories" I'm 43 and I'm not sure I wanna hear them 
QUOTE (samy0 @ Feb 27 2007, 12:35 PM)
Shes 12 years old! Please dont start her down the "whole government is lying and conspiring against us" road
The last time I checked the CIA was part of the government.
It's others who are trying to convince her to not believe her social studies teacher.
She obviously doesn't need me or anyone else to tell her what to think. In my experience many 12-year-olds have a better perspective of what's happening in the world than the majority of adults do.
Yeah, right..while they ask for the latest 'vans'...
QUOTE (Idiot @ Feb 27 2007, 01:44 PM)
QUOTE (samy0 @ Feb 27 2007, 12:35 PM)
Shes 12 years old! Please dont start her down the "whole government is lying and conspiring against us" road
The last time I checked the CIA was part of the government.
It's others who are trying to convince her to not believe her social studies teacher.
She obviously doesn't need me or anyone else to tell her what to think. In my experience many 12-year-olds have a better perspective of what's happening in the world than the majority of adults do.
More like they have been indoctrinated by the drive-by media.
Since the US and several other countries have nukes then every other country is entitled to their own national nuke. And the apes shall inherit the earth 
QUOTE (Idiot @ Feb 27 2007, 01:44 PM)
QUOTE (samy0 @ Feb 27 2007, 12:35 PM)
Shes 12 years old! Please dont start her down the "whole government is lying and conspiring against us" road
She obviously doesn't need me or anyone else to tell her what to think. In my experience many 12-year-olds have a better perspective of what's happening in the world than the majority of adults do.
So it is only us adults who disagree with you that need you to tell us what to think?
QUOTE (samy0 @ Feb 27 2007, 12:35 PM)
QUOTE (Idiot @ Feb 26 2007, 08:27 PM)
QUOTE (lil @ Feb 26 2007, 05:29 PM)
QUOTE (Idiot @ Jan 18 2007, 11:09 AM)
We were at 2 minutes for 7 years in the 50s and 3 or 4 minutes for 7 years in the 80s, so we're pretty safe now.
At least N. Korea stopped making nukes.
What source are you relying on for that, or is it your own considered opinion?
I'm not knocking it or anything, I'm just curious. Either way it's just as valid as any other theory to me.
It's also closer to the official CIA analysis of the situation.
Shes 12 years old! Please dont start her down the "whole government is lying and conspiring against us" road
Don't worry. I'm on it already(I think).
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Feb 28 2007, 12:20 PM)
So it is only us adults who disagree with you that need you to tell us what to think?
Not what to think Snoop, just to think.
The advantage 12-yr-olds have is that they haven't developed cognitive thinking patterns on politics and such subjects and so they have to rely on just plain old thinking. I would never try to convince them to believe what I do.
They are the ones who are going to come up with new solutions while we're still arguing about it.
for starters, she most likely doesn't know what "vans" are, other than something to drive! We are anti conspicuous comsumption, which makes her the dorky nerdy girl (she readily admits to this, so it isn't an insult, btw) at school because she has little pop culture knowledge....she doesn't watch tv, after all.
and as for political thinking, she is unfortunately subject to the debates of her parents, so she learns plenty about politics in a theoretical way. after all, she has to put up with me arguing the pluralist, elite mass, institutional models all the time and applying them to situations. Throw in ethical models...deonological, utilitarianism, natural law....give her a good dose of sociology...weber, marx, bordieu...and she's about as nerdy as it gets!
now how many of you have been watching "are you smater than a 5th grader?" to see how smart you are!
We are anti conspicuous comsumption, which makes her the dorky nerdy girl (she readily admits to this, so it isn't an insult, btw) at school because she has little pop culture knowledge....she doesn't watch tv, after all.and as for political thinking, she is unfortunately subject to the debates of her parents, so she learns plenty about politics in a theoretical way. after all, she has to put up with me arguing the pluralist, elite mass, institutional models all the time and applying them to situations. Throw in ethical models...deonological, utilitarianism, natural law....give her a good dose of sociology...weber, marx, bordieu...and she's about as nerdy as it gets!
now how many of you have been watching "are you smater than a 5th grader?" to see how smart you are!
Does she play with other kids in the neighborhood? Or go to public school? Is she on a team? If she is exposed to any of the above, she will cease to be uniformed soon if she truly is 'uniformed still'...or has she just bamboozled you? Do you school her in Votaire & Paine?
QUOTE (Idiot @ Mar 1 2007, 06:59 PM)
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Feb 28 2007, 12:20 PM)
So it is only us adults who disagree with you that need you to tell us what to think?
Not what to think Snoop, just to think.
The advantage 12-yr-olds have is that they haven't developed cognitive thinking patterns on politics and such subjects and so they have to rely on just plain old thinking. I would never try to convince them to believe what I do.
They are the ones who are going to come up with new solutions while we're still arguing about it.
this is what I think about the whole politics situation(in my mind):
the elections.....whoo-hoo soundmaker jump-around yay
Hilary...get real
screw the nukes, war itself, and make up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ahhhh the blissful ignorance of youth. Enjoy youth while you can let us old farts handle it for now. Some day when you get near voting age look at both sides of every issue and then decide. For example, while no one wants a nuke to be used, they likely are the ONLY reason we are a free nation today. Look at BOTH sides...
I had to go to this chorus concert awhile ago for a friend and near the end they had a class from an elementary school sing a song... I forget what it was, but it was basically about world peace. By the end of it, I had tears in my eyes... not because of the song itself, but because I was wishing I was that age again only to be that naive.
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Mar 8 2007, 11:42 AM)
Ahhhh the blissful ignorance of youth. Enjoy youth while you can let us old farts handle it for now. Some day when you get near voting age look at both sides of every issue and then decide. For example, while no one wants a nuke to be used, they likely are the ONLY reason we are a free nation today. Look at BOTH sides...
A smart old fart once said:
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance -- it is the illusion of knowledge."
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Mar 8 2007, 11:42 AM)
Ahhhh the blissful ignorance of youth. Enjoy youth while you can let us old farts handle it for now. Some day when you get near voting age look at both sides of every issue and then decide. For example, while no one wants a nuke to be used, they likely are the ONLY reason we are a free nation today. Look at BOTH sides...
Haven't we been a free country for at least two centuries?
I will try better in the future to look at "BOTH" sides.
QUOTE (lil @ Mar 14 2007, 02:46 PM)
I will try better in the future to look at "BOTH" sides.
That's a good attitude but remember that there doesn't have to always be only 2 sides to every issue. Republicans and democrats both would like you to think that.
QUOTE (lil @ Mar 14 2007, 03:46 PM)
Haven't we been a free country for at least two centuries?
Yep, but flintlock muskets would not keep it that way in today's world.
QUOTE (Udmas @ Feb 26 2007, 07:39 PM)
QUOTE (lil @ Feb 26 2007, 05:29 PM)
At least N. Korea stopped making nukes.
I wouldn't believe that lil'moms.
It looks like lil'moms was right after all.
QUOTE
North Korea Destroys Tower at Nuclear Site
The demolition on Friday of the cooling tower at the reactor complex in Yongbyon, North Korea.
By CHOE SANG-HUN
SEOUL, South Korea -- In a gesture demonstrating its commitment to halt its nuclear weapons program, North Korea blew up the most prominent symbol of its plutonium production Friday.
The 60-foot cooling tower at the North’s main nuclear power plant collapsed in a heap of shattered concrete and twisted steel, filmed by international and regional television broadcasters invited to witness the event.
The tower is a technically insignificant structure, relatively easy to rebuild. North Korea also has been disabling — but not destroying — more sensitive parts of the nuclear complex, such as the 5-megawatt reactor, a plant that makes its fuel and a laboratory that extracts plutonium from its spent fuel.
Nonetheless, the destruction of the tower, the most visible element of the nuclear complex at Yongbyon, 60 miles north of Pyongyang, the North Korean capital, affirmed the incremental progress that has been made in American-led multilateral efforts to end North Korea’s nuclear weapons programs.
...
President Bush announced that Washington was removing North Korea from the U.S. list of state sponsors of terrorism, and issued a proclamation lifting some sanctions under the Trading with the Enemy Act.
The demolition on Friday of the cooling tower at the reactor complex in Yongbyon, North Korea.
By CHOE SANG-HUN
SEOUL, South Korea -- In a gesture demonstrating its commitment to halt its nuclear weapons program, North Korea blew up the most prominent symbol of its plutonium production Friday.
The 60-foot cooling tower at the North’s main nuclear power plant collapsed in a heap of shattered concrete and twisted steel, filmed by international and regional television broadcasters invited to witness the event.
The tower is a technically insignificant structure, relatively easy to rebuild. North Korea also has been disabling — but not destroying — more sensitive parts of the nuclear complex, such as the 5-megawatt reactor, a plant that makes its fuel and a laboratory that extracts plutonium from its spent fuel.
Nonetheless, the destruction of the tower, the most visible element of the nuclear complex at Yongbyon, 60 miles north of Pyongyang, the North Korean capital, affirmed the incremental progress that has been made in American-led multilateral efforts to end North Korea’s nuclear weapons programs.
...
President Bush announced that Washington was removing North Korea from the U.S. list of state sponsors of terrorism, and issued a proclamation lifting some sanctions under the Trading with the Enemy Act.
And we did this by..... talking? Huh, imagine that.
Good job George!
As with most nations of the world, we must take the information that is received and dissect it and pull out the bits of truth, and discard the rest.
North Korea is not dumb, they give us what they think we need and continue on with their activities but in a much more covert manner.
The US is guilty of this also. Does anyone believe we have demilitarized our entire arsenal of chemical weapons?
My guess would be no.
My guess on the article above is the facility was old and obsolete. North Korea blows it up in front of reporters. They post the picture world wide to say, "look, we are in compliance". The US throws them a few bones, and everyone is happy for a while.
Just my deranged take.
Cheers.
North Korea is not dumb, they give us what they think we need and continue on with their activities but in a much more covert manner.
The US is guilty of this also. Does anyone believe we have demilitarized our entire arsenal of chemical weapons?
My guess would be no.
My guess on the article above is the facility was old and obsolete. North Korea blows it up in front of reporters. They post the picture world wide to say, "look, we are in compliance". The US throws them a few bones, and everyone is happy for a while.
Just my deranged take.
Cheers.
Sorry Idiot, we did this by using bribery.
QUOTE (Udmas @ Jun 27 2008, 06:09 PM)
Sorry Idiot, we did this by using bribery.
That's what politics is.
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