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Mcgee
Who`s going to win the Daytona 500 ??

I think Dale Earnhardt jr. has a good chance. With the back ground of having a fast restrictor plate program. But Tony Stewart will be in the mix.
cfulmor
I'm torn.

Part of me wants Dale Jarrett, but he went Toyota, which pisses me off to no end.
SMan
QUOTE (cfulmor @ Feb 13 2007, 01:08 PM) *
I'm torn.

Part of me wants Dale Jarrett, but he went Toyota, which pisses me off to no end.


As a non-NASCAR fan, this Toyota storyline really intrigues me. I'm interested in how they'll be accepted by fans.
samy0
I would love to see Ricky Rudd win. a year ago he didn't have a ride and now him and his teammate are 1 and 2 qualifiers. i am a Jimmie Johnson fan so if Jimmie doesn't win it I'd like to see Rudd win
Mcgee
I think some of the newer fans will pick up on the Toyota.
The older and long time fans will not change. JMO

I`ve been with Earnhardts way back when Dale sr. drove in the early 80s
samy0
those toyotas are SLOOOOW! None of them even sniffed the top 10 in qualifiying. I think its going to be a long year for toyota
Udmas
What's up with Waltrip is he to dumb to cheat?

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Penalties Announced: 4 Crew Chiefs Suspended, Fines, Points Taken Away: NASCAR announced Tuesday that four Nextel Cup Series crew chiefs have been suspended from competition, starting with Sunday’s season-opening Daytona 500. Two of the four – Ken Francis, crew chief for the #9 Dodge driven by Kasey Kahne; and Robbie Reiser, crew chief for the #17 Ford of Matt Kenseth – have been suspended for four races and fined $50,000. Also, Kahne and Kenseth were penalized with the loss of 50 driver championship points while their car owners, Ray Evernham and Jack Roush, were penalized 50 car owner championship points. The violations by the #9 and #17 teams were found during post-qualifying inspection on Feb. 11. Both teams’ qualifying times were disallowed. Two others – Rodney Childers, crew chief for the #10 Dodge driven by Scott Riggs; and Josh Browne, crew chief for the #19 Dodge driven by Elliott Sadler – have been suspended for two races and fined $25,000. In addition, Riggs and Sadler were penalized 25 driver championship points while their car owners, James Rocco and Evernham, were penalized 25 car owner championship points. The violations by the #10 and #19 teams were found prior to qualifying. In each instance the violations were of Sections 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing), 12-4-Q (car, car parts components and/or equipment not conforming to NASCAR rules) and 20-2.1E (unapproved aerodynamic modification) of the series rule book.(NASCAR PR)(2-13-2007)


All this Sh!t going on and they haven't even ran a race yet.
Wrangler3
Can't tell ya who will win but I can tell ya it will probably be a HMS driver that causes the big one yet again. rolleyes.gif
Udmas
Things aren't looking to good for Waltrip,
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David Hyder, the crew chief for Michael Waltrip, has been suspended indefinitely for infractions discovered on the #55 Toyota during Sunday's post-qualifying inspection for the Daytona 500. Further penalties against Waltrip's team will be announced at a press conference later on Wednesday. They are expected to be more severe than the two- and four-race suspensions of crew chiefs from four other teams that were announced on Tuesday.


I've been reading that Toyota isn't too happy with him either.
Mcgee
According to Jayski.com Waltrip had a fuel mixture not aloud in the 55 car.
He was docked 100 driver points and 100 owner points.
His crew chief was fined $100,000.00 for the infraction of the rules. And suspended indefinitely.
They put tainted gasoline in the 55 car.
Nascar has impounded the 55 primary car.

I`ve heard of and seen some things they do to race cars. But that takes guts to try and pass bad gas mixture in a race car.
I bet you could smell the fumes from that car anywere on the track. Stupid trick.
Wrangler3
If he ran his car as fast as he does his mouth he could lap the field. I bet Toyota is really regretting have him on their side right now.
Mcgee
After reading a little more about the restriction. Nascar said they found some kind of oil in the manifold. Waltrip says it might be blow by oil. But Robert Pemberton said he doughts it was just oil.

Toyota has told Waltrip that he has 2 out of 3 striks against him.

They are not happy with him.
Udmas
Poor Mikey, just trying to get a little advantage. laugh.gif
Snoopy
NASCAR -- where there are more cheaters than MLB! ohmy.gif
samy0
keep in mind that one of the teams that got caught "cheating" before last years 500 not only won the race but one the championship also biggrin.gif . While Waltrip doesn't stand a chance this might be a good omen for Kahne or Kenseth laugh.gif
cfulmor
WWE NASCAR blink.gif
Biggins
I'm a big Jeff Gordon fan and I'd like to see him win... but I have to go with the longtime BMW "road course specialist" and GrandAm Cup champ Boris Said as my favorite to win the Daytona 500. At last season's Daytona night race, he won the pole and finished 4th in an independently owned car. He was in the top 5-10 in qualifying this year.
City Park Dad
WTF!?!

Now Jeff Gordon gets penalized for a "part failure" that made his car 1" too low. They even admit that it provided no appreciable advantage. If it was a part failure then why penalize him by making him start 2nd to last.

Looks like NASCAR trying to save face and cover up more cheating.
cfulmor
Part failure my A$$, everyone knows Jeffy is the NASCAR golden boy and can do NO wrong. BS. They should penalize him as harshly as the others. BUT NO, how convienent that it NASCAR calls it a part failure, to save the GOLDEN boys A$$ once again.

As I said WWE NASCAR. rolleyes.gif

Making him start in the back is a slap on the wrist and a slap in the face to the other teams.
Mcgee
Both rear shock mount ajusters were the same. Lowered on both sides. Falied parts not in my book it ain`t.
Jeffy is still the pretty boy of Nascar GRRRRR. Can do NO wrong. Boris is looking pretty good. He should finish in the top 10. Tony Stewart has a fast car Dale JR. has a fast one. Carl Edwards is the dark horse to win. jmo. Ricky Rudd has a great starting place But his pit stops will hurt him.
I`ll still take Dale JR. to win. J M Os.
Mcgee
Both rear shock mount ajusters were the same. Lowered on both sides. Falied parts not in my book it ain`t.
Jeffy is still the pretty boy of Nascar GRRRRR. Can do NO wrong. Boris is looking pretty good. He should finish in the top 10. Tony Stewart has a fast car Dale JR. has a fast one. Carl Edwards is the dark horse to win. jmo. The 29 is also in the mix to win. Ricky Rudd has a great starting place But his pit stops will hurt him.
I`ll still take Dale JR. to win. J M Os.
City Park Dad
Well this only makes the NACSAR officials look worse. The "scandles" earlier were bad enough (made worse by our every loving press dry.gif ). They would have saved face better by saying -part failure no penalty OR call it "cheating" and a penalty.

What a load of crap. Are there any sports worth watching anymore?
samy0
QUOTE (City Park Dad @ Feb 16 2007, 11:09 AM) *
Well this only makes the NACSAR officials look worse. The "scandles" earlier were bad enough (made worse by our every loving press dry.gif ). They would have saved face better by saying -part failure no penalty OR call it "cheating" and a penalty.

What a load of crap. Are there any sports worth watching anymore?



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City Park Dad
QUOTE (samy0 @ Feb 16 2007, 11:38 AM) *
QUOTE (City Park Dad @ Feb 16 2007, 11:09 AM) *
Well this only makes the NACSAR officials look worse. The "scandles" earlier were bad enough (made worse by our every loving press dry.gif ). They would have saved face better by saying -part failure no penalty OR call it "cheating" and a penalty.

What a load of crap. Are there any sports worth watching anymore?



Womens Beach volleyball biggrin.gif


Bingo!
Snoopy
QUOTE (samy0 @ Feb 16 2007, 11:38 AM) *
QUOTE (City Park Dad @ Feb 16 2007, 11:09 AM) *
Well this only makes the NACSAR officials look worse. The "scandles" earlier were bad enough (made worse by our every loving press dry.gif ). They would have saved face better by saying -part failure no penalty OR call it "cheating" and a penalty.

What a load of crap. Are there any sports worth watching anymore?



Womens Beach volleyball biggrin.gif

Oh my, Misty May has one of the most awesome butts ever. Whew! cool.gif
City Park Dad
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Feb 16 2007, 12:05 PM) *
QUOTE (samy0 @ Feb 16 2007, 11:38 AM) *
QUOTE (City Park Dad @ Feb 16 2007, 11:09 AM) *
Well this only makes the NACSAR officials look worse. The "scandles" earlier were bad enough (made worse by our every loving press dry.gif ). They would have saved face better by saying -part failure no penalty OR call it "cheating" and a penalty.

What a load of crap. Are there any sports worth watching anymore?



Womens Beach volleyball biggrin.gif

Oh my, Misty May has one of the most awesome butts ever. Whew! cool.gif


ohmy.gif ohmy.gif Google that!
Udmas
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#24-Jeff Gordon didn't sleep well on Thursday night. Not necessarily because his car failed inspection following the second of two 150-mile qualifying races, but because he was worried people might think his team deliberately cheated. That's understandable in a week in which five crew chiefs and one vice president for competition have been suspended since Tuesday. "That's what's bothered me the most," Gordon said. "It's what kept me up all night. People are going to think we did something to circumvent the rules." NASCAR determined that a parts failure resulted in the rear quarter panel of Gordon's #24 Chevrolet being too low


What a load of crap. Like Jeff would never cheat. rolleyes.gif
Udmas
That was one of the best finishes I've seen in a while.

Go Harvick, maybe this will be his year.

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Mcgee
I`m glad Harvick won also. Mark dosen`t deserve to win any races. He Retired didn`t he?
Anyone who says they retired and comes back the following year won`t get be respect.
The 17 car was the factor in the 29 wining that race. I wonder what PIN head said to Matt after the race? He was his team mate last year. Pin Head was one of the reasons Matt got the ride with Rouch. RCR need to win at Daytona. They needed a boost for the team.

THE 5 CAR has an idiot for a driver. Tony was the car to beat.
Udmas
I never was a big Martin fan, he's seems to drive scared, but I agree when you retire stay retired.

Tony and Kurt were tough but you have to be there at the end.
Flipper
LMAO Nascar and auto racing isnt a sport, what is so interesting watching a vehicle go round and round and as you can see most of the drivers arent very intelligent, the only reason they can answer questions is because media trainers literally have to pound that stuff into them- what to say. Someone tell me why is it that most men in this region just have to be so big on hunting and fixing cars? Ive talked to many who dont even like it, they say they feel they have to act like theyre into it or else they will be looked at as feminine and Im sure alot of other guys feel the same. Darn men in this area are boring all they think about is sex, cars, and hunting. Women want men with that dull of a mind? There are others out here that arent dull women, contrary to what you may believe lol, Anyway Nascar is hilarious and not a sport.
Heather
Oh shit. laugh.gif


Having said that, my dad watches Nascar and he works on my car, so of course these qualities are quite admirable.

Shame on you, Flipper! tongue.gif
Flipper
QUOTE (Heather @ Feb 19 2007, 11:28 PM) *
Oh shit. laugh.gif


Having said that, my dad watches Nascar and he works on my car, so of course these qualities are quite admirable.

Shame on you, Flipper! tongue.gif

I understand what you are saying but to just have such a closed mind that only thinks about those types of things I mentioned isnt much fun. Its fine to know about fixing cars, its just that the majority of men cant even hold a conversation unless it consists of those things I mentioned. I find it to more prevalent in this region than even way down in Beckley, WV where I moved from a year and a half ago and youd think that deep in the hillsit would be worse,Ive lived other places and that way of thinking doesnt rule like it does around here. Every time Im with guys and they see an attractive women all they say is damn I wanna (bleep) her, I dont think that way, they need to prove their personal worth before they get me and also alot that talk so much about hunting only maybe do it a couple times then they think they are experts and one of the gang, lol. As far as cars its fine to fix them and be into them but broaden your mind and let cars, sex , and hunting be for awhile. Sorry I got away from Nascar but it all goes together.
Heather
QUOTE (Flipper @ Feb 19 2007, 11:42 PM) *
Sorry I got away from Nascar but it all goes together.

Nah, it doesn't go together. I hear where you are coming from, but this is the wrong place to discuss prejudice.

And don't forget that you choose who you hang around with. Right?
Flipper
QUOTE (Heather @ Feb 20 2007, 12:47 AM) *
QUOTE (Flipper @ Feb 19 2007, 11:42 PM) *
Sorry I got away from Nascar but it all goes together.

Nah, it doesn't go together. I hear where you are coming from, but this is the wrong place to discuss prejudice.

And don't forget that you choose who you hang around with. Right?

Yeah thats why I dont hang out with anyone because I cant find anyone that meets my standards and has my values thats not hypocritical.
Flipper
QUOTE (Heather @ Feb 20 2007, 12:47 AM) *
QUOTE (Flipper @ Feb 19 2007, 11:42 PM) *
Sorry I got away from Nascar but it all goes together.

Nah, it doesn't go together. I hear where you are coming from, but this is the wrong place to discuss prejudice.

And don't forget that you choose who you hang around with. Right?

I have enough prejudice invoked upon me just because I am me and not doing things or saying things just to be one of the group to be accepted so why is it ok for others and not me to be prejudiced about things?
coma
I don't watch NASCAR, but I have a couple friends that do. Do I care or think any less of them? No. I can change my oil, fix a tire, wash my Jeep and that's about it. I don't hunt, but the majority of my friends do and that's fine with me. I've only ever shot a gun at stationary non-breathing targets or in a video game. My closest friends, of whom are a mix of deer killers, NASCAR watchers, and car fixers (which makes me the black sheep) are the best friends I could ask for. They are all well educated with careers spanning different fields and can talk about any subject on the table.

Maybe you just attract dull, close-minded people. *shrug*
samy0
QUOTE (Flipper @ Feb 19 2007, 10:54 PM) *
LMAO Nascar and auto racing isnt a sport, what is so interesting watching a vehicle go round and round and as you can see most of the drivers arent very intelligent, the only reason they can answer questions is because media trainers literally have to pound that stuff into them- what to say. Someone tell me why is it that most men in this region just have to be so big on hunting and fixing cars? Ive talked to many who dont even like it, they say they feel they have to act like theyre into it or else they will be looked at as feminine and Im sure alot of other guys feel the same. Darn men in this area are boring all they think about is sex, cars, and hunting. Women want men with that dull of a mind? There are others out here that arent dull women, contrary to what you may believe lol, Anyway Nascar is hilarious and not a sport.


You are quite the sensitive man of the world aren't you? " Darn men in this area are boring all they think about is sex, cars, and hunting"
If you really are a guy someone should pull your card!

Do you think this is a pick-up room? This isn't www.adultdatefinders.com if your looking to impress the women here good luck to you. If youre looking for a date you might want to offend people in rooms other than Nascar and Hunting! laugh.gif

"Yeah thats why I dont hang out with anyone because I cant find anyone that meets my standards and has my values thats not hypocritical."

you don't hang out with anyone because they don't meet your standards? Is it because your attitutude is so negative they cant stand to be around you? laugh.gif laugh.gif
cfulmor
QUOTE (Flipper @ Feb 19 2007, 10:54 PM) *
LMAO Nascar and auto racing isnt a sport, what is so interesting watching a vehicle go round and round and as you can see most of the drivers arent very intelligent, the only reason they can answer questions is because media trainers literally have to pound that stuff into them- what to say. Someone tell me why is it that most men in this region just have to be so big on hunting and fixing cars? Ive talked to many who dont even like it, they say they feel they have to act like theyre into it or else they will be looked at as feminine and Im sure alot of other guys feel the same. Darn men in this area are boring all they think about is sex, cars, and hunting. Women want men with that dull of a mind? There are others out here that arent dull women, contrary to what you may believe lol, Anyway Nascar is hilarious and not a sport.


Let me know when you can handle a race car for 500 miles at speeds up to 200mph. Your lack of understanding of the SPORT is showing in your post. Please do some research before making ignorant statements such as above. It may not be your cup of tea, and that is fine, Cricket is not my cup of tea, yet I understand it is a SPORT, and don't go out lampooning it. Have a nice day and welcome to the board.
Mcgee
Please keep on the topic of NASCAR. Thank You
samy0
Alright. California this week. Whats everyones picks? I am going to go with Stewart and for my sleeper pick I'll take McMurray
Mcgee
I`ll pick, Edwards, or Matt. My dark horse is the 5 car.

i just hope Dale jr. finishes in the top 10.
cfulmor
When is your prediction for Toyota, to get it's first win, and which driver?

Driver: Dale Jarrett
When: when hell freezes over laugh.gif really I don't know.
Mcgee
Maby on a short track. But a better chance when hell freezes over. Like you said cfulmor.

I think Mikey has the best chance of getting a win than Dale J. has.
samy0
I'll go out on a limb and say Brian Vickers will be the first toyota driver to get a win and it'll be NEXT year! Thats right i don't think they'll win a race this year in a toyota. but they do have $$$$$$$ so they will learn from this year and make a giant leap next year
the5car
QUOTE (Mcgee @ Feb 20 2007, 11:29 AM) *
My dark horse is the 5 car.


I resemble that remark !!!

Actually, my 'name' is from the Terry Labonte days, not 'the Shrub'.

I just got offered Bristol tickets....yahoo !!!

Flipper, just for kicks, try going to a race. Much better than TV.
samy0
say what you want about the "shrub" he still isn't half the prick his brother is laugh.gif
the5car
QUOTE (samy0 @ Feb 20 2007, 02:10 PM) *
say what you want about the "shrub" he still isn't half the prick his brother is laugh.gif

I wasn't knocking the 'shrub', just not a fan...

He's much better than his brother though, IMO...
Udmas
I'll take Jeff Burton. Not a big fan of California Speedway though.
Idiot
I'm a big fan of Wonder Bread so I'll take Ricky Bobby.


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