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Hooligan
Just wondering what bands people here listen to locally! And if you have a site URL for them, feel free to post it!
Heather
I'm usually too busy trying to talk over the band, so I can't say if any of these are good, but here they are anyway. tongue.gif

The J Factor bluesy stuff

The Reagan Years 80s covers

Never Never Bulls on Pawade! laugh.gif

But everyone knows those.


A family member used to have a band, but they don't play anymore.
Hooligan
Thanks Heather! I'll have to check them out. KNow some, don't know others.
Wrangler3
Funny Money
GreedyXJ
there is no local music scene...

you're just spoon fed the same ol' sh!t...

that is all...

2 of my favorite DC bands are fugazi and bad brains
samy0
Heres what wiki says about Md. music

Maryland has produced popular musicians from many fields, including doo wop and hardcore punk, as well as the gangsta rap of Tupac Shakur, the contemporary R&B of Toni Braxton and the pop of Cass Elliott. Though doo wop can be traced to many urban areas across the United States, especially New York City, Sonny Til's 1946 band called The Vibranaires, later known as The Orioles, can be considered the first doo wop group.[19] The quirky, genre-crossing Frank Zappa was also from Maryland, as was Tupac Shakur, who was born in Harlem, though he began his career in Baltimore, eventually becoming one of the most famous rappers in hip hop history. Maryland has also produced many renowned jazz musicians, such as Eubie Blake, Elmer Snowden and Billie Holiday. The Urbanite magazine describes Baltimore jazz as variously a wildly varying array of styles or a "hard bop town, where R&B, gospel and bebop meet";[20] during the middle of the 20th century, Baltimore produced a vibrant local jazz tradition characterized by the use of the B3 organ. Many modern Baltimorean jazz musicians are renowned saxophonists, including Gary Thomas, Gary Bartz and the Afro-Caribbean influenced TK Blue.

Baltimore's hardcore punk scene has been overshadowed by DC's, but included locally renowned bands like Law & Order, Bollocks and Fear of God; many of these bands played at bars like the Marble Bar, Terminal 406 and the illegal space Jule's Loft, which author Steven Blush described as the "apex of the Baltimore (hardcore) scene" in 1983 and 1984. The 1980s also saw the development of a local New Wave scene led by the bands Ebeneezer & the Bludgeons and Null Set. Later in the decade, emo bands like Reptile House and Grey March had some success and recorded with Ian MacKaye in DC.[21] Some early Baltimore punk musicians moved onto other local bands by the end of the 1990s, resulting in local mainstays Lungfish and Fascist Fascist, who became regionally prominent. The Urbanite magazine has indentified several major trends in local Baltimorean music, including the rise of psychedelic-folk singer-songwriters like Entrance and the house/hip hop dance fusion called Baltimore club, pioneered by DJs like Rod Lee. In the 1990s and more recently, Baltimore's indie rock scene has produced performers like Slot Racer, Cass McCombs and Mary Prankster.[1]


Of course nothing from h-town.


I'd have to agree with greedy on Fugazi and Bad Brains. Both very influential on the punk scene locally and nationally.

Also DC is the home of GoGo which I'm sure never caught on in Hagerstown but if you grew up close to DC like me (PG county) It was everywehere in the late 70's and early 80's
samy0
I forgot of course Kix and Crack the Sky to other local bands that did well. Local bands from this area now that are any good? None that I know of laugh.gif
Hooligan
QUOTE (GreedyXJ @ Feb 15 2007, 12:25 PM) *
there is no local music scene...

you're just spoon fed the same ol' sh!t...

that is all...

2 of my favorite DC bands are fugazi and bad brains


There's actually a growing local scene with many original bands. Have any of you actually gotten out and checked recently?
samy0
QUOTE (Hooligan @ Feb 15 2007, 01:32 PM) *
QUOTE (GreedyXJ @ Feb 15 2007, 12:25 PM) *
there is no local music scene...

you're just spoon fed the same ol' sh!t...

that is all...

2 of my favorite DC bands are fugazi and bad brains


There's actually a growing local scene with many original bands. Have any of you actually gotten out and checked recently?



Where is this growing scene at exactly?
coma
QUOTE (Hooligan @ Feb 15 2007, 01:32 PM) *
There's actually a growing local scene with many original bands. Have any of you actually gotten out and checked recently?

I love when people from Hagerstown talk about the "local scene" like it's some sort of movement. There has always been a local scene of bands and they are nothing more than your garden variety garage bands that live on the coffee shop/bar circuit. Seriously, I don't want to hear Jason Teach or Pete Lancaster sing blues or acoustic every weekend that I go out. I want a variety of music... not the same old coffee shop crap every single weekend.

Stinger's is the only place right now with the potential ala 930 Club to bring a variety of music to Hagerstown and they have problems of their own. First, the acoustics totally suck in that place and I don't see them spending the money to make it right as long as people are still walking through the door. Second, they're stuck in the cover band rut by bringing the same old Baltimore/DC acts to town. Woohoo! Let's go see Kashmir, Slippery When Wet or Vs the Earth for the 4th time in 2 months!

Blah!
Hooligan
Listing of 9 shows this weekend alone (around 29 or so bands) within 40 minutes of H-town right here. And that's just what was submitted in time.
samy0
With 9:30 so close why even both seeing "local" bands when I can see national acts that I know are good.
coma
QUOTE (Hooligan @ Feb 15 2007, 02:17 PM) *
Listing of 9 shows this weekend alone (around 29 or so bands) within 40 minutes of H-town right here. And that's just what was submitted in time.

LOL, just as I said. Teach is at the top of the list. HAHA

Edit: AND at a coffee shop. laugh.gif
Hooligan
I hear if you drive 5 hours to NYC you'll see even bigger acts!

And Teach is "at the top of the list" because the list is chronological.
coma
QUOTE (Hooligan @ Feb 15 2007, 02:21 PM) *
I hear if you drive 5 hours to NYC you'll see even bigger acts!

And Teach is "at the top of the list" because the list is chronological.

Ah, so that's what chronological means. rolleyes.gif
webbie
coma is cranky, coma is cranky.....
cfulmor
I disagree, I believe he is stating his case with much eloquence.
samy0
Ok. So I'll see all of you at Port city for open mike night. i hear Uniques nephew is headlining laugh.gif
cfulmor
That ought to be uniquely unbeleivable. rolleyes.gif
coma
I am not. I'm just telling how it is. I can name the local acts and the restaurants/coffee shops that they play by memory. You know I'm in the "loop" (get it? haha) and that I don't just talk smack without knowin' my shit stuff!
cfulmor
Speaking of the "Loop" I have to thank the Herald-Mail for providing that, it burns ever so well when I need to start a fire. What a waste of good trees.
webbie
QUOTE (coma @ Feb 15 2007, 02:37 PM) *
I am not.


are too...
cfulmor
Yoss is gonna send you two to your SEPERATE rooms. Now behave. tongue.gif
webbie
QUOTE (cfulmor @ Feb 15 2007, 02:39 PM) *
Speaking of the "Loop" I have to thank the Herald-Mail for providing that, it burns ever so well when I need to start a fire. What a waste of good trees.


I would have thought that you would be the last on here to play with fire.... wink.gif
coma
QUOTE (cfulmor @ Feb 15 2007, 02:44 PM) *
Yoss is gonna send you two to your SEPERATE rooms. Now behave. tongue.gif

We can talk through the walls.
cfulmor
QUOTE (webbie @ Feb 15 2007, 02:45 PM) *
QUOTE (cfulmor @ Feb 15 2007, 02:39 PM) *
Speaking of the "Loop" I have to thank the Herald-Mail for providing that, it burns ever so well when I need to start a fire. What a waste of good trees.


I would have thought that you would be the last on here to play with fire.... wink.gif


OUCH!!

I'm mortally wounded.

Got to keep warm somehow.

Especially with cold comments like that one. wink.gif
webbie
QUOTE (cfulmor @ Feb 15 2007, 02:47 PM) *
QUOTE (webbie @ Feb 15 2007, 02:45 PM) *
QUOTE (cfulmor @ Feb 15 2007, 02:39 PM) *
Speaking of the "Loop" I have to thank the Herald-Mail for providing that, it burns ever so well when I need to start a fire. What a waste of good trees.


I would have thought that you would be the last on here to play with fire.... wink.gif


OUCH!!

I'm mortally wounded.

Got to keep warm somehow.

Especially with cold comments like that one. wink.gif


well, if you would ever come to a meet & greet, I'd buy you a Irish coffee or something to keep you warm!
Hooligan
QUOTE (cfulmor @ Feb 15 2007, 02:34 PM) *
I disagree, I believe he is stating his case with much eloquence.


I didn't know there was a case to be stated. I'd figure the answer would be a band name(s) or the answer "none". Fact is there's more venues opening up that will be playing more acts. You'd be surprised at what's being planned over the next few months.
Heather
Me, Moms and lil'moms will sing for y'all at the next meet and greet. That will be a local act to remember.
Hooligan
I'd pay to see Webbie do some karaoke after a few adult beverages. HA HA!
Heather
QUOTE (Hooligan @ Feb 15 2007, 03:26 PM) *
I'd pay to see Webbie do some karaoke after a few adult beverages. HA HA!

Me too!
City Park Dad
QUOTE (Hooligan @ Feb 15 2007, 03:26 PM) *
I'd pay to see Webbie do some karaoke after a few adult beverages. HA HA!


Does that mean you would only listen to her sing after you had a few drinks or after she had a few drinks? laugh.gif
coma
QUOTE (Hooligan @ Feb 15 2007, 03:18 PM) *
You'd be surprised at what's being planned over the next few months.

No I wouldn't, someone is always "planning" something. I am interested in hearing about all these venues that will be opening up that are going to attract a variety of good, original music though.
webbie
QUOTE (Hooligan @ Feb 15 2007, 03:26 PM) *
I'd pay to see Webbie do some karaoke after a few adult beverages. HA HA!


oh yeah... after about 4 seconds 2 seconds - you all would be paying me to STOP! laugh.gif laugh.gif
Hooligan
QUOTE (coma @ Feb 15 2007, 04:02 PM) *
QUOTE (Hooligan @ Feb 15 2007, 03:18 PM) *
You'd be surprised at what's being planned over the next few months.

No I wouldn't, someone is always "planning" something. I am interested in hearing about all these venues that will be opening up that are going to attract a variety of good, original music though.

The term "good" depends upon the person defining it. For all I know we could like totally different stuff. I'd suggest you just keep abreast of the local situation and you'll find the genre you like.


QUOTE (webbie @ Feb 15 2007, 04:39 PM) *
QUOTE (Hooligan @ Feb 15 2007, 03:26 PM) *
I'd pay to see Webbie do some karaoke after a few adult beverages. HA HA!


oh yeah... after about 4 seconds 2 seconds - you all would be paying me to STOP! laugh.gif laugh.gif



I'd pay double for Guns-n-Roses. HA HA HA
samy0
QUOTE (Hooligan @ Feb 15 2007, 02:21 PM) *
I hear if you drive 5 hours to NYC you'll see even bigger acts!


I can't speak for the rest but personally I only get out 4 or 5 times a year to see any live acts due to family responsibilities.
When I do go out I am going to see a band that I already know or at the very least have heard of. Sure I'm probably plunking down $60
a ticket compared to $10 for 10 bands at the Leitersburg cinema but at this stage of the game I know what I want to see and don't have the luxury of seeing someone just because I'm looking for a way to kill a Friday.

QUOTE (Hooligan @ Feb 15 2007, 03:18 PM) *
The term "good" depends upon the person defining it. For all I know we could like totally different stuff. I'd suggest you just keep abreast of the local situation and you'll find the genre you like.


Excellent point! You sound pretty plugged in to the local music scene. You have been elected to keep us up to speed. I might even listen to your podcast biggrin.gif

You haven't told us your favorite local act yet. Anyone around here worth listening to that you'd pay to see?
Hooligan
Publicly I'll keep opinions of favorites to myself. I believe I should remain as neutral as possible. I'll only advise of what's happening in a given week overall less the personal preferences.

Fact is bands can turn things around almost overnight in some cases (along with turn bad). I could say one is crap or one is great and the next thing you know they've changed and made me eat my words. Bad idea since I'm on a diet. heh heh
coma
QUOTE (Hooligan @ Feb 16 2007, 01:58 PM) *
Publicly I'll keep opinions of favorites to myself. I believe I should remain as neutral as possible. I'll only advise of what's happening in a given week overall less the personal preferences.

Someone asked you to suggest some good bands and this is your response? Gee, that sure isn't very supportive of the local music scene that you are so gung ho for is it? Hopefully we can look forward to some music and band reviews from you in the near future; I sure do enjoy a quick read now and then.
Hooligan
Why would you want to read about bands you consider the same old thing Coma? I doubt you'd learn a lot considering you've obviously made your mind up already. The stuff on the site is for people who are a bit more open minded towards music and willing to give different bands a listen rather than group them together ahead of time.

By any chance you aren't a former musician are you? Your comments remind me of a few I know who never made it and became jaded.

Besides, how am I to suggest good bands for someone I don't know? I could give names of rock bands when that person likes country. It's just pointless.
coma
QUOTE (Hooligan @ Feb 16 2007, 03:02 PM) *
Why would you want to read about bands you consider the same old thing Coma? I doubt you'd learn a lot considering you've obviously made your mind up already. The stuff on the site is for people who are a bit more open minded towards music and willing to give different bands a listen rather than group them together ahead of time.

By any chance you aren't a former musician are you? Your comments remind me of a few I know who never made it and became jaded.

Besides, how am I to suggest good bands for someone I don't know? I could give names of rock bands when that person likes country. It's just pointless.

Obviously my sarcasm went over your head.

But yep, I have made up my mind and that is that the local music scene sucks. Samy0 asked you your favorite act and you can't even name one, citing "your position"! laugh.gif I have so much music (except Country, sorry cfulmor smile.gif ) in various mainstream (and less popular) genres that it makes my head spin, so I know that its not an issue of genres; its the same old faces and songs.

I am not a musician that failed to make it bigtime like Teach did, but I have been fortunate enough to live in areas with thriving music (Baltimore, Orlando, South Beach) and I think I have pretty good taste. I realize that those cities are several levels above this area, but again, my experience. Folks here have their own vocabulary, definitions and trends arrive here 4 years later than everywhere else. If anyone is jaded, it certainly isn't me. smile.gif

I mean, I give ya credit for trying.. I just think don't think its all that right now.
Hooligan
QUOTE (coma @ Feb 16 2007, 07:48 PM) *
Obviously my sarcasm went over your head.

But yep, I have made up my mind and that is that the local music scene sucks. Samy0 asked you your favorite act and you can't even name one, citing "your position"! laugh.gif I have so much music (except Country, sorry cfulmor smile.gif ) in various mainstream (and less popular) genres that it makes my head spin, so I know that its not an issue of genres; its the same old faces and songs.

I am not a musician that failed to make it bigtime like Teach did, but I have been fortunate enough to live in areas with thriving music (Baltimore, Orlando, South Beach) and I think I have pretty good taste. I realize that those cities are several levels above this area, but again, my experience. Folks here have their own vocabulary, definitions and trends arrive here 4 years later than everywhere else. If anyone is jaded, it certainly isn't me. smile.gif

I mean, I give ya credit for trying.. I just think don't think its all that right now.


No, your sarcasm didn't go over my head, I just don't respond to it well. I believe it to be the weapon of a weak person when used in excess. But moving on...

As for naming bands, I gave the reason why I won't. It's not a matter of can't. I refuse to show favoritism publicly. If that's not a good enough reason for you to drop that particular subject, then you don't understand what I'm doing. But on the flipside, you're probably over 30 (your statement of things getting here 4 years later dates you as it's not the same with the younger generation, just the older ones) so you're out of my demographic anyways.

I too have been to the big, scary city and have seen what they have to offer but the fact is, music is everywhere. Good music too. You just can't sit on your can in a coffee shop and expect it to come to you. It's out there, but you have to find it. That's yet another goal of what I'm doing, to give it structure.

As for your particular hatred for Teach, that's up to you as I haven't heard him yet. It does make me wonder why you'd bash someone who's trying their best. I mean, you don't have to go and listen of course. Unless you're the type that watches a baby take it's first steps then yells at it for not running. Personally I don't see a reason to bash someone for doing what they love. I'm the kind to encourage them and give them advice then let them take it and run.

That is all.
Flipper
QUOTE (Hooligan @ Feb 16 2007, 11:11 PM) *
QUOTE (coma @ Feb 16 2007, 07:48 PM) *
Obviously my sarcasm went over your head.

But yep, I have made up my mind and that is that the local music scene sucks. Samy0 asked you your favorite act and you can't even name one, citing "your position"! laugh.gif I have so much music (except Country, sorry cfulmor smile.gif ) in various mainstream (and less popular) genres that it makes my head spin, so I know that its not an issue of genres; its the same old faces and songs.

I am not a musician that failed to make it bigtime like Teach did, but I have been fortunate enough to live in areas with thriving music (Baltimore, Orlando, South Beach) and I think I have pretty good taste. I realize that those cities are several levels above this area, but again, my experience. Folks here have their own vocabulary, definitions and trends arrive here 4 years later than everywhere else. If anyone is jaded, it certainly isn't me. smile.gif

I mean, I give ya credit for trying.. I just think don't think its all that right now.


No, your sarcasm didn't go over my head, I just don't respond to it well. I believe it to be the weapon of a weak person when used in excess. But moving on...

As for naming bands, I gave the reason why I won't. It's not a matter of can't. I refuse to show favoritism publicly. If that's not a good enough reason for you to drop that particular subject, then you don't understand what I'm doing. But on the flipside, you're probably over 30 (your statement of things getting here 4 years later dates you as it's not the same with the younger generation, just the older ones) so you're out of my demographic anyways.

I too have been to the big, scary city and have seen what they have to offer but the fact is, music is everywhere. Good music too. You just can't sit on your can in a coffee shop and expect it to come to you. It's out there, but you have to find it. That's yet another goal of what I'm doing, to give it structure.

As for your particular hatred for Teach, that's up to you as I haven't heard him yet. It does make me wonder why you'd bash someone who's trying their best. I mean, you don't have to go and listen of course. Unless you're the type that watches a baby take it's first steps then yells at it for not running. Personally I don't see a reason to bash someone for doing what they love. I'm the kind to encourage them and give them advice then let them take it and run.

That is all.

Well Kix rules and they are from around here.
samy0
Hooligan- I just thought you might be able to name a couple bands you thought were worth checking out. No big deal. God forbid you would show some favoritism dry.gif that might make or break one of these bands. the podcast fans would be in an uproar! laugh.gif Just thought if someone was to check out the local scene it might be good to have an idea on who's worth watching.

As for over 30 being out of your demo. Your profile says you are 32? If the music is "too cool" for the over 30 demo that usually means
anybody with any musical taste would hate it laugh.gif
coma
QUOTE (Hooligan @ Feb 16 2007, 11:11 PM) *
No, your sarcasm didn't go over my head, I just don't respond to it well. I believe it to be the weapon of a weak person when used in excess. But moving on...

As for naming bands, I gave the reason why I won't. It's not a matter of can't. I refuse to show favoritism publicly. If that's not a good enough reason for you to drop that particular subject, then you don't understand what I'm doing. But on the flipside, you're probably over 30 (your statement of things getting here 4 years later dates you as it's not the same with the younger generation, just the older ones) so you're out of my demographic anyways.

I too have been to the big, scary city and have seen what they have to offer but the fact is, music is everywhere. Good music too. You just can't sit on your can in a coffee shop and expect it to come to you. It's out there, but you have to find it. That's yet another goal of what I'm doing, to give it structure.

As for your particular hatred for Teach, that's up to you as I haven't heard him yet. It does make me wonder why you'd bash someone who's trying their best. I mean, you don't have to go and listen of course. Unless you're the type that watches a baby take it's first steps then yells at it for not running. Personally I don't see a reason to bash someone for doing what they love. I'm the kind to encourage them and give them advice then let them take it and run.

That is all.

Then your opinion on this topic isn't of any value. That's like me trying to sell a car to someone but not telling them anything about it. Pointless.

Who cares how old I am? Does my age, or the ages of other members here, have anything to do with having preferring good music? Hell no it doesn't and for you to bring that up is just silly and unintelligent. As well, you should be concerned about my demographic because I'm in the demographic that has money to spend. You are obviously nothing more than a basement music hobbyist with little to no knowledge about marketing, the area and its history with local music, what people want and like, and public relations. Hell you haven't even heard Teach play and he's been playing in the area since he was in high school (thats over 10 years, to further educate you.)

I'm really not trying to be a jackass but you have offered nothing of value to this discussion, your podcasts are no more informative or interesting than what a 15 yr old could record in his basement, and your lack of knowledge and experience is appalling considering your (self promoted) position.
Hooligan
QUOTE (coma @ Feb 20 2007, 09:27 AM) *
Then your opinion on this topic isn't of any value. That's like me trying to sell a car to someone but not telling them anything about it. Pointless.

Who cares how old I am? Does my age, or the ages of other members here, have anything to do with having preferring good music? Hell no it doesn't and for you to bring that up is just silly and unintelligent. As well, you should be concerned about my demographic because I'm in the demographic that has money to spend. You are obviously nothing more than a basement music hobbyist with little to no knowledge about marketing, the area and its history with local music, what people want and like, and public relations. Hell you haven't even heard Teach play and he's been playing in the area since he was in high school (thats over 10 years, to further educate you.)

I'm really not trying to be a jackass but you have offered nothing of value to this discussion, your podcasts are no more informative or interesting than what a 15 yr old could record in his basement, and your lack of knowledge and experience is appalling considering your (self promoted) position.


No, you are trying to be a jackass because I originally asked what local bands people listened to. You chimed in with trash and you're still trying to. You don't understand the goal of the show since it IS all local music (something you've made clear you hate). If you hate it, then why even chime in and take this thread off topic? My podcasts are for the music. I'm not trying to hop on and give 20 facts about a band. That's the problem with radio...too much talk!

Self-promoted position? What position is that? I've never claimed anything, you assume too much. And as for your demographic, I don't reach out to idiots with the keyboard cowboy syndrome.

You're just in this thread to talk trash and troll. Admit it. You haven't tried to intelligently prove one point. Again, as I said, "Sarcasm is the weapon of a weak person".

Good day to you sir. I don't believe I'd prefer to talk to you any further. It's time you allow other people to speak up.
samy0
Way to make new friends laugh.gif Well how about answering my question anyway. You can even put a disclaimer out if you'd like " I think these bands are good but the rest of them don't suck". Maybe if I rephrase the question a little better.

Lets say you just moved here and would like to see some of these local bands. Regardless of genre and not to exclude anyone or any other bands. Which acts (as many or few as you like to list) have you seen that you would recommend anyone else trying to catch?
Hooligan
QUOTE (samy0 @ Feb 20 2007, 11:47 AM) *
Way to make new friends laugh.gif Well how about answering my question anyway. You can even put a disclaimer out if you'd like " I think these bands are good but the rest of them don't suck". Maybe if I rephrase the question a little better.

Lets say you just moved here and would like to see some of these local bands. Regardless of genre and not to exclude anyone or any other bands. Which acts (as many or few as you like to list) have you seen that you would recommend anyone else trying to catch?


I didn't start the bashing Samy, Coma did. I'm just defending the musicians out there. If that disqualifies me from making friends then so be it, I've got plenty already. Ask Webbie, I'm not a jerk in real life but I won't let someone come in, off topic, and start shredding the local bands. I can be an extremely nice guy but when push comes to shove I'll kick someone in the head. Either way it really doesn't matter to me.

As for your question, I'd suggest you check out the gig report I put out every Wednesday, figure out what night that week you can go out and then pick a band based on location. I honestly can't go in to listing them as I haven't seen every act live just yet. I've seen plenty, but there's more out there. I'd most likely be short changing some bands just for the fact I haven't seen them live. I also don't base that decision off of cds due to the fact you could have a crap band with a great producer and sound like gold. But on the flip side, you could have an awesome band with a lousy producer and come off horribly.

I will say this though as I'll be doing something on them soon enough. For a show, Jester is really good. The way Butch and the boys work the crowd and get them to participate, they're the only band around that does it. They have contests, joke with the audience, don't take themselves too seriously and go above and beyond the norm. They're a cover band so I can't play them on the show, but they are excellent musicians and know how to work a crowd.

Like I said, I can't play them but I'll be using them as an example of how bands can make the audience part of the show instead of spectators.
samy0
Jester! There you go. Thats all I wanted. I'll try and catch them sometime
Hooligan
Also they're really nice guys and they don't blow off anyone who comes up to talk to them at any gig. You'll see the set break and a group of people coming up to them. Like I said, they're a band for the younger bands to take clues from and learn how to incorporate the crowd in to the performance.
coma
I doubt my 1000+ posts were all trolling posts. Sure, some of them are but most of the time in good jest. The regulars here know how I am and imagine this, some have even met me in person. You don't know anything about me or anyone else on this forum minus webbie, and frankly, I could care less what you think, so you can take your canned quotes from Quotes For Dummies on your desk and shove them up your arse.

You didn't like what someone more knowledgeable than you said about the local scene so you insult people about their age (I'm one of the youngest here, by the way), threaten to kick their head in, and basically failed miserably at getting involved in the well-established community here. What I said was all a matter of my opinion and experience (which you lack), like it or not, so you can't take that away from me. People like you and what you're trying to do come and go like a quick breeze. What resources do you have other than your juvenile Antpod garbage? It's plainly obvious that you are much more out of the LOOP than you would like to think.

If you are going to continue to post here I suggest you grow some thick skin, quick.
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