http://www.kc3.com/news/chicago_confiscation.htm

The Chicago Police Department and the Illinois State Police have teamed up to make good on Mayor Daley's pledge that, if it were up to him, nobody would have a gun. Daley and his elite "CAGE" unit are apparently taking advantage of gun privacy loopholes to pinpoint certain individuals for inclusion in the confiscation program.




WTF LOOK out marylanders we will be next

OK could not figure out how to hyper link so I guess you have to cu and paste unti I get in practice

Maryland will try this one day. Good luck getting my guns. The people are going to get tired of government noseing in on peoples freedom. Maby not, Todays society are wimps.

Wrong. The gun was not registered, as the law requires, so it was confiscated. Their laws, which have apparently been in effect for decades, require re-registering the firearms, which was not done by the gun owner.

From the article:


Whatever the governor and his cops motives may be, the confiscation never would have happened if the dude followed the rules.

Plus, aren't we always complaining that they should enforce the gun laws already on the books instead of making new ones? This appears to be the case in this instance.

I understand the what was done but I see a way that all the states will beable to use this national gun registery to disarm the citizens.

Nothing will ever "disarm" you...ever. Quit whining about the laws and conform. The laws are there to make it difficult for abusers, not to yank guns from your stiff and unyielding hands.

Heather on this I beg to disagree. Laws are only there for law-abiding citizens and the riff-raff never follow them anyway. And let's face it--why the heck should you have to 'register' your firearms? Do you have to register your kitchen knives? Laws are created more & more to allow 'others' to control you freedom.

Viva la revolucion!

Why do I have to register my car?

Because it is a source of revenue for 'da man!

I`ll register my guns when every police officer registers there Glocks. They dont.

Are you talking about their service weapons? They are owned/registered by the departments until retirement, then registered to the officer at retirement (in most departments.....kinda like a little retirement gift in some cases). There's no way around registration for cops. Don't confuse not registering a gun with cops not having to comply with the waiting period (for off-duty gun use) and being allowed to own high capacity mags (when they were illegal).

I know many cops, but don't know any the would F around with unregistered handguns in this state. It's been a felony for the last ten years.

Yoss - if you're reading this, did they give you yours when you hung it up?

what do you mean by unregistered?

If I owned firmarms when i moved here... Was there a registration for the firarms That I allegedly owned?

Even if the alleged firarms were purchased with a purchase permit when I was a resident of another state?

You must register a handgun (background check, waiting period, etc.) when purchasing new at the gun shop or a person-to-person private sale in MD. It's the same paperwork, IIRC. What are you guys talking about?

To the best of my knowledge, and I may be lagging behind a little on gun laws, you don't have to register your legally owned handguns in MD if you move from another state and bring them with you....only on transfers/sales between different parties.

Well we are on the same page here.

The case cited in the link the owner purchased the firarm legally. In Chicago you must also register and reregister the firearm periodically or else the liberal gun Nazis come and take you away. Seems like a screwed up system. They do not have a way to track the guns the criminals have scares the heck outa me

SMan, the only thing I got was a retirement badge and a size10 foot up my rear as I was walking out the door. They recycle the weapons to new officers, the same with the badge.

However, when we converted from the S&W .38 revolver to the Glock, we were given the opportunity to purchase the S&W at original cost to the department (I believe it was something like $165); and only after having passed the background investigation required of all Maryland citizens.

SMan is correct to the best of my knowledge, if you bring a firearm with you when you move to Maryland you do not have to register the weapon. Registration is only for exchanges within the state.

If I inherit my dad's massive gun collection, will I need to register them?? Everything from muzzles, to my gramps' WWII Walther, to and AR-15. He's in Indiana and still kicking, I'm just thinking ahead!!

Maybe the handguns and the AR. You can't even gift somebody a handgun in MD without doing the paperwork. Inheritance may be similar. Definitely something to investigate when the time comes.

NOT the rifles. The AR15 Will be ok as long as it isn`t an atomatic.
If any of the guns are pistols I wouldn`t regester them. As long as you don`t need to shoot them.

I have 2 pistols not regestered.

This is nice, any other citizen would be going to jail.

When did handgun registration start? What year?

My dad has some that I am sure are quite old. But when I inherit them I think it will be a snafu. I dread it. I think MD is a 1 gun a month state. If my Dad has 3 handguns, how do I inherit them? I know I gotta take a class now -- not sure when that crap started. Damn near need to be a lawyer to try to keep up with these gun laws. Grrrrr.....

I think we only need about 5 gun laws. Age. Citizenship. Non-felon. Non-nutcase. Commit a crime using one and get 5 years no questions asked.

We need one more Snoopy that is every citizen if they meet the criteria of the laws you already named and that takes firearms training can then carry a concealed weapon. Despite what the liberal airheads tell us we can't count on the police to defend us and they will never be able to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. There has never been a ban yet in this country that has worked. they banned alcohol and it failed. They banned drugs and now they come in by the ton. How much easier would it be to smuggle guns that can't be sniffed out?

The last few weeks of these liberals going around yelling about banning guns because of VT makes me sick. 32 of the 33 who died followed the law and did not have guns. The whole thing was over in 9 minutes. When can you count on the cops getting there in that amount of time anywhere? Had everyone been legally allowed to carry a gun then statistically it would be safe to assume several other people there would have had guns and would have at least had a chance to stop that animal. Instead tehy were defensless counting ona system to protect them that usually only picks of the pieces after an event. Think about most of the mass killings that have happened over teh years. usually by the time police get there and actually move in the majority of those killed have already been killed.

Let the citizens carry guns and let the criminal decide if they want to take that chance of facing an equally or hopefully better armed citizen.

Tony

What I can't believe is, with over 100 million guns in the US, that anybody thinks the Government could possibly confiscate them all.

"Let the citizens carry guns and let the criminal decide if they want to take that chance of facing an equally or hopefully better armed citizen."
I agree with that Tony.

Tony, you're preaching to another preacher. If there were only those 5 gun laws, you could carry concealed.

I am only being slightly facetious by saying 5 laws -- might want a few more than that, but the general idea is for freedom.

Anybody know whwt the law about owning handguns in MD are? What if you legally purchased them elsewhere and then moved into MD? Do you still have to register them?

I/M/O, Only if you want to regester the gun you can. But you don`t have to regester .

I/M/O, Only if you want to regester the gun you can. But you don`t have to regester .
Keep the sales slip handy.

As far as I know, unless the laws have changed, the only time you have to register a handgun is when you buy it either new or used within the state. If you move to maryland from another state there is no provision in maryland code or law that requires you to register them.

It's not a bad idea to maintain, make, model and serial number of all your firearms in a safe place away from your firearms; in the event that they are stolen.

If you, as a maryland resident, purchase a handgun in another state, in order to bring it legally into the state you have to have it transferred to a registered maryland gun dealer who will then transfer it to you assuming you pass the background investigation. I don't know of any state where an out-of-state resident can purchase a handgun outright.

For instance, if I went to Cabelas up in Chambersburg and purchased a handgun, Cabelas would have to directly transfer it to a maryland licensed firearms dealer who would then transfer it to me. I think dealers generally charge a nominal fee for this service, probably $10 or so. Plus the cost of shipping it to the maryland dealer.

MD gun laws

They will not confiscate my Kalashnikov at the shack near Myersville.

Ya darn near need a %$#@ lawyer -- and lots of time -- to understand all this crap!

Things are becoming so regulated you need a @#&^% lawyer just to live in the GOOD OLE USA

Moms,
This isn't easy to answer. Some places I WOULD NOT seek such advise is from;
The police - the most honest answer you're likely to get there is "I don't know," as few of them actually do. There are agencies within departments - particularly the State Police - where definitive answers should be available but getting them to provide it would probably be an experience in its self.
A gun store - Again, while there are some knowledgeable and helpful people out there, for the most part local dealers are as ignorant of the myriad of laws as the average citizen.
A friend - Reliable knowledge of the web of laws pertaining to various kinds of guns, particularly in anti-gun Maryland simply cannot be relied upon from a regular citizen - even among most active shooters. Mis-information is rampant.

I'm sorry I don't have it handy but if you can goggle a link to the "Associated Gun Clubs of Baltimore", they are the phalanx of the pro-gun lobby in Maryland. If you can contact them somebody there CAN give you advise you can bank on. Failing that, try the NRA for the last word on up-to-date, reliable information.

So many guns..he must be a terrorist!

Good grief -- you'd have to cross state lines with them, too!

Good luck on that, Moms...

Theory Of Gun Control Meets Reality Of Crime

Friday, May 25, 2007


A May 15 story in The Plain Dealer (Cleveland, Ohio) serves as a good reminder of how a person’s support for gun control often changes after a personal experience with crime.

State Representative Michael DeBose (D-12) of Cleveland was an opponent of Right-to-Carry, having voted against the measure twice. All that changed on the night of May 1, when he was confronted by two men, one of whom was wielding a gun. On that night, Rep. DeBose’s sense of security in his neighborhood changed, as did his view on lawful citizens being able to defend themselves.

Rep. DeBose was lucky—this time—that his running, screaming, and summons for help prevented him from being harmed. When asked how this recent experience may change the prism through which he views Right-to-Carry, Rep. DeBose was crystal clear: "I was wrong. I'm going to get a permit and so is my wife. I've changed my mind. You need a way to protect yourself and your family. I don't want to hurt anyone. But I never again want to be in the position where I'm approached by someone with a gun and I don't have one. There are too many people who are just evil and mean-spirited. They will hurt you for no reason. If more people were packing guns, it might serve as a deterrent.”

But I thought the police were here to protect us.

That's right they show up after the crime has been committed.

It`s always after the fact that they see a need for change.

Well, if you wouldn't mind using your extraordinary ESP powers to inform the police where the next crime is going to occur, I'm sure they'd appreciate it.

I knew you wouldn't be able to let that one go.

So without me using my extraordinary ESP powers that's just how it's going to be.

What I can't figure out is how anybody could think other wise. If someone breaks into your house in the middle of the night and intends to do you harm you better have a way to protect yourself or you'll be at their mercy.

Like this off-duty cop protecting himself and his home.



Link

I believe I'd just go ahead and put the next round in my head if I was that guy.

A police officer thought someone was breaking into his home, so what does he do, he gets his GUN.

And proceeds to almost kill his own daughter with said GUN.

I guess my point is, for every feel good story of a gun saving the day, there is a tragic story to ying yang it.

And the point is that accidents do happen even with trained police officers.






Agreed you could find bad stories all day and I could find good ones all day.

I think the "bad gun" stories are more rare, but get much more coverage.

People almost kill their family members due to mistakes while driving, too, yet we do not hear for calls for car bans. Well...except from Al Gore and enviro-wackos!

Yes, you do Snoopy..SUV mows down pedestrians ---like who was driving? It was the SUV driving itself & decided to plow into the crowd??

I think we shold ban Saran Wrap--you can wrap your head in it & die..

Or maybe we should ban bathtubs--a kid or two die each year by drowning!