I don't think so. She has not done near enough time for what she did. She got off easy with her sentencing, she needs to do the full amount of time if not longer. You just don't do that to a helpless little baby.
Welcome to the forums, but what are you talking about?
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Momof4...I agree with you. Kelly Ruck should not even be allowed her time shorten. She left her son in an alley to die. She has the gull to ask the courts for an early release when she has only done maybe 2 years. What she did was wrong and she needs to rot in h... for what she did. She says she wants an early release so she can be with her son. My question is, "why so she can finish the job." I'm sorry, but there were many places for her to take her newborn somewhere instead of an alley where he could have died. For someone who was supposedly not in her right mind, she certainly is now in order to ask for an early release. She is saying she did this because of mental illness. She certainly was mentally ill when she spreaded her legs, now was she. Most people use their mental illness as an excuse to get away with crap. I personally hope that while she is in prison that anything horrible that could possibly happen to her WILL HAPPEN.
QUOTE (MOMOF4 @ Apr 26 2007, 10:53 AM) 
I don't think so. She has not done near enough time for what she did. She got off easy with her sentencing, she needs to do the full amount of time if not longer. You just don't do that to a helpless little baby.
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Momof4...I agree with you. Kelly Ruck should not even be allowed her time shorten. She left her son in an alley to die. She has the gull to ask the courts for an early release when she has only done maybe 2 years. What she did was wrong and she needs to rot in h... for what she did. She says she wants an early release so she can be with her son. My question is, "why so she can finish the job." I'm sorry, but there were many places for her to take her newborn somewhere instead of an alley where he could have died. For someone who was supposedly not in her right mind, she certainly is now in order to ask for an early release. She is saying she did this because of mental illness. She certainly was mentally ill when she spreaded her legs, now was she. Most people use their mental illness as an excuse to get away with crap. I personally hope that while she is in prison that anything horrible that could possibly happen to her WILL HAPPEN.
QUOTE (Yossarian @ Apr 26 2007, 12:12 PM)
Welcome to the forums, but what are you talking about?
Do you remember back in 2005, when a woman left her baby under an utility trailer to die, because she didnt want him anymore? Well, she went to court Tuesday to ask for her time to be shorten. She only received 5 years out of that anyway, which she should have received a heck of alot more time than than. She knew what she was doing.
Here's the article: Dated April 24, 2007 it's in the archives
Woman jailed for abandoning baby seeks sentence reduction
A woman sentenced to spend five years in prison after entering an Alford plea to attempted second-degree murder in connection with abandoning her newborn son returned Tuesday to Washington County Circuit Court.
Under an Alford plea, a defendant does not admit guilt but acknowledges the prosecution has sufficient evidence to gain a conviction.
During a modification hearing, Kelly Erin Ruck, 27, asked Washington County Circuit Judge W. Kennedy Boone III to reduce her sentence. She was sentenced in May 2006 to 20 years in prison, with all but five years suspended.
Boone declined to make a ruling on Ruck's sentence Tuesday. He will issue an order at a later date, he said.
Ruck was charged with abandoning her baby Sept. 17, 2005, and placing him beneath a trailer parked behind her home at 809 Maryland Ave. The boy was found about 9:30 a.m. by neighbor James Sollenberger, who told police he was drawn to the trailer by bloody rags near it and found the child beneath a couple of pieces of wood, according to charging documents.
Ruck's child is in the care of his father, Scott Rohrbaugh.
Rohrbaugh testified Tuesday that he takes the child to visit Ruck in prison every Sunday. Ruck and her child are bonding, he said.
Ruck is more talkative and more emotional than she was in September 2005, Rohrbaugh testified.
Kelly Ruck's father, Michael Ruck, also testified Tuesday.
"I see her eyes light up when we go down to visit," he said. "I know she wants to be a good mother."
During Ruck's sentencing hearing May 15, 2006, psychiatrist Dr. Joseph Jurand testified on behalf of the defense that Ruck suffered from a "dissociative event" and was "quite irrational at the time" that she gave birth in her living room and placed the boy outside.
Ruck is on a prescription drug to treat depression, her attorney, Gordon Lynn, said Tuesday.
Upon her release, Ruck plans to seek mental health treatment, Lynn said.
"My son, he means the world to me, he means everything to me," Kelly Ruck testified Tuesday.
She plans to tell her son about the "big, horrible mistake" she made when he is older, she testified.
Lynn asked Boone to reduce Ruck's sentence on the grounds that she has participated in programs - including anger management - in prison, has a support system in place and seems to be a different person.
Deputy State's Attorney Joseph Michael argued that if a stranger had snatched the child and left him beneath a trailer, the maximum sentence possible would have been imposed. The state opposed any modification of her sentence, he said. If the sentence is modified, he asked that Ruck conceive no children as a term of her probation, Michael said.
Boone suggested that Ruck write a letter expressing "sincere, heartful, soulful gratitude" to Sollenberger, thanking him for finding her baby.
Woman jailed for abandoning baby seeks sentence reduction
A woman sentenced to spend five years in prison after entering an Alford plea to attempted second-degree murder in connection with abandoning her newborn son returned Tuesday to Washington County Circuit Court.
Under an Alford plea, a defendant does not admit guilt but acknowledges the prosecution has sufficient evidence to gain a conviction.
During a modification hearing, Kelly Erin Ruck, 27, asked Washington County Circuit Judge W. Kennedy Boone III to reduce her sentence. She was sentenced in May 2006 to 20 years in prison, with all but five years suspended.
Boone declined to make a ruling on Ruck's sentence Tuesday. He will issue an order at a later date, he said.
Ruck was charged with abandoning her baby Sept. 17, 2005, and placing him beneath a trailer parked behind her home at 809 Maryland Ave. The boy was found about 9:30 a.m. by neighbor James Sollenberger, who told police he was drawn to the trailer by bloody rags near it and found the child beneath a couple of pieces of wood, according to charging documents.
Ruck's child is in the care of his father, Scott Rohrbaugh.
Rohrbaugh testified Tuesday that he takes the child to visit Ruck in prison every Sunday. Ruck and her child are bonding, he said.
Ruck is more talkative and more emotional than she was in September 2005, Rohrbaugh testified.
Kelly Ruck's father, Michael Ruck, also testified Tuesday.
"I see her eyes light up when we go down to visit," he said. "I know she wants to be a good mother."
During Ruck's sentencing hearing May 15, 2006, psychiatrist Dr. Joseph Jurand testified on behalf of the defense that Ruck suffered from a "dissociative event" and was "quite irrational at the time" that she gave birth in her living room and placed the boy outside.
Ruck is on a prescription drug to treat depression, her attorney, Gordon Lynn, said Tuesday.
Upon her release, Ruck plans to seek mental health treatment, Lynn said.
"My son, he means the world to me, he means everything to me," Kelly Ruck testified Tuesday.
She plans to tell her son about the "big, horrible mistake" she made when he is older, she testified.
Lynn asked Boone to reduce Ruck's sentence on the grounds that she has participated in programs - including anger management - in prison, has a support system in place and seems to be a different person.
Deputy State's Attorney Joseph Michael argued that if a stranger had snatched the child and left him beneath a trailer, the maximum sentence possible would have been imposed. The state opposed any modification of her sentence, he said. If the sentence is modified, he asked that Ruck conceive no children as a term of her probation, Michael said.
Boone suggested that Ruck write a letter expressing "sincere, heartful, soulful gratitude" to Sollenberger, thanking him for finding her baby.
QUOTE (sweetliberty2u @ Apr 26 2007, 12:29 PM)
Here's the article: Dated April 24, 2007 it's in the archives
Woman jailed for abandoning baby seeks sentence reduction
A woman sentenced to spend five years in prison after entering an Alford plea to attempted second-degree murder in connection with abandoning her newborn son returned Tuesday to Washington County Circuit Court.
Under an Alford plea, a defendant does not admit guilt but acknowledges the prosecution has sufficient evidence to gain a conviction.
During a modification hearing, Kelly Erin Ruck, 27, asked Washington County Circuit Judge W. Kennedy Boone III to reduce her sentence. She was sentenced in May 2006 to 20 years in prison, with all but five years suspended.
Boone declined to make a ruling on Ruck's sentence Tuesday. He will issue an order at a later date, he said.
Ruck was charged with abandoning her baby Sept. 17, 2005, and placing him beneath a trailer parked behind her home at 809 Maryland Ave. The boy was found about 9:30 a.m. by neighbor James Sollenberger, who told police he was drawn to the trailer by bloody rags near it and found the child beneath a couple of pieces of wood, according to charging documents.
Ruck's child is in the care of his father, Scott Rohrbaugh.
Rohrbaugh testified Tuesday that he takes the child to visit Ruck in prison every Sunday. Ruck and her child are bonding, he said.
Ruck is more talkative and more emotional than she was in September 2005, Rohrbaugh testified.
Kelly Ruck's father, Michael Ruck, also testified Tuesday.
"I see her eyes light up when we go down to visit," he said. "I know she wants to be a good mother."
During Ruck's sentencing hearing May 15, 2006, psychiatrist Dr. Joseph Jurand testified on behalf of the defense that Ruck suffered from a "dissociative event" and was "quite irrational at the time" that she gave birth in her living room and placed the boy outside.
Ruck is on a prescription drug to treat depression, her attorney, Gordon Lynn, said Tuesday.
Upon her release, Ruck plans to seek mental health treatment, Lynn said.
"My son, he means the world to me, he means everything to me," Kelly Ruck testified Tuesday.
She plans to tell her son about the "big, horrible mistake" she made when he is older, she testified.
Lynn asked Boone to reduce Ruck's sentence on the grounds that she has participated in programs - including anger management - in prison, has a support system in place and seems to be a different person.
Deputy State's Attorney Joseph Michael argued that if a stranger had snatched the child and left him beneath a trailer, the maximum sentence possible would have been imposed. The state opposed any modification of her sentence, he said. If the sentence is modified, he asked that Ruck conceive no children as a term of her probation, Michael said.
Boone suggested that Ruck write a letter expressing "sincere, heartful, soulful gratitude" to Sollenberger, thanking him for finding her baby.
Woman jailed for abandoning baby seeks sentence reduction
A woman sentenced to spend five years in prison after entering an Alford plea to attempted second-degree murder in connection with abandoning her newborn son returned Tuesday to Washington County Circuit Court.
Under an Alford plea, a defendant does not admit guilt but acknowledges the prosecution has sufficient evidence to gain a conviction.
During a modification hearing, Kelly Erin Ruck, 27, asked Washington County Circuit Judge W. Kennedy Boone III to reduce her sentence. She was sentenced in May 2006 to 20 years in prison, with all but five years suspended.
Boone declined to make a ruling on Ruck's sentence Tuesday. He will issue an order at a later date, he said.
Ruck was charged with abandoning her baby Sept. 17, 2005, and placing him beneath a trailer parked behind her home at 809 Maryland Ave. The boy was found about 9:30 a.m. by neighbor James Sollenberger, who told police he was drawn to the trailer by bloody rags near it and found the child beneath a couple of pieces of wood, according to charging documents.
Ruck's child is in the care of his father, Scott Rohrbaugh.
Rohrbaugh testified Tuesday that he takes the child to visit Ruck in prison every Sunday. Ruck and her child are bonding, he said.
Ruck is more talkative and more emotional than she was in September 2005, Rohrbaugh testified.
Kelly Ruck's father, Michael Ruck, also testified Tuesday.
"I see her eyes light up when we go down to visit," he said. "I know she wants to be a good mother."
During Ruck's sentencing hearing May 15, 2006, psychiatrist Dr. Joseph Jurand testified on behalf of the defense that Ruck suffered from a "dissociative event" and was "quite irrational at the time" that she gave birth in her living room and placed the boy outside.
Ruck is on a prescription drug to treat depression, her attorney, Gordon Lynn, said Tuesday.
Upon her release, Ruck plans to seek mental health treatment, Lynn said.
"My son, he means the world to me, he means everything to me," Kelly Ruck testified Tuesday.
She plans to tell her son about the "big, horrible mistake" she made when he is older, she testified.
Lynn asked Boone to reduce Ruck's sentence on the grounds that she has participated in programs - including anger management - in prison, has a support system in place and seems to be a different person.
Deputy State's Attorney Joseph Michael argued that if a stranger had snatched the child and left him beneath a trailer, the maximum sentence possible would have been imposed. The state opposed any modification of her sentence, he said. If the sentence is modified, he asked that Ruck conceive no children as a term of her probation, Michael said.
Boone suggested that Ruck write a letter expressing "sincere, heartful, soulful gratitude" to Sollenberger, thanking him for finding her baby.
This just makes me sick. She should not have the opportunity to tell her son about the "big, horrible mistake". In my opinion it was not a mistake, She knew what she was doing. You just don't deliver a baby in your house and put him out to rot, which is what she did. If she does get an early release she needs to be made to get her tubes tied so she can't conceive any more and she shouldn't be able to see the baby. She is a very sick, sick individaul. And the father for that matter should be in jail along with her. I can' believe he would even take that baby to the prison to see her. She doesn't even deserve to see a picture of him.
I feel Kelly Ruck should remain in prison the rest of her life. I have NO sympathy for Kelly Ruck's pathectic vicious attempt to kill a innocent baby. There are so many positive opportunities in Hagerstown Kelly could have taken into consideration before making such a obnoxious decision.
I realize how furious everyone is and rightfully so. Or so it seems.
Judges must have to have the wisdom of Solomon to try and figure these things out.
Nobody will argue that what she did is horrible. But, untreated mental illness can make people do "crazy things". And yes, with medication, they can become a completely different person.
Our laws do allow for "Not Criminally Responsible". If what we read is true about Kelly, it sounds like Kelly has a good case for NCR. It doesn't make it any less horrific, but she is receiving rehab and recovering.
Spewing hateful remarks is not going to help anyone.
I still believe that she needs to serve time, but 20 years is too long IMO. It was a very tragic event that, thankfully, ended with a live baby. Not so, in so many other situations.
Judges must have to have the wisdom of Solomon to try and figure these things out.
Nobody will argue that what she did is horrible. But, untreated mental illness can make people do "crazy things". And yes, with medication, they can become a completely different person.
Our laws do allow for "Not Criminally Responsible". If what we read is true about Kelly, it sounds like Kelly has a good case for NCR. It doesn't make it any less horrific, but she is receiving rehab and recovering.
Spewing hateful remarks is not going to help anyone.
I still believe that she needs to serve time, but 20 years is too long IMO. It was a very tragic event that, thankfully, ended with a live baby. Not so, in so many other situations.
Good point checkingin.
QUOTE (Checkingin @ Apr 26 2007, 02:13 PM)
I realize how furious everyone is and rightfully so. Or so it seems.
Judges must have to have the wisdom of Solomon to try and figure these things out.
Nobody will argue that what she did is horrible. But, untreated mental illness can make people do "crazy things". And yes, with medication, they can become a completely different person.
Our laws do allow for "Not Criminally Responsible". If what we read is true about Kelly, it sounds like Kelly has a good case for NCR. It doesn't make it any less horrific, but she is receiving rehab and recovering.
Spewing hateful remarks is not going to help anyone.
I still believe that she needs to serve time, but 20 years is too long IMO. It was a very tragic event that, thankfully, ended with a live baby. Not so, in so many other situations.
Judges must have to have the wisdom of Solomon to try and figure these things out.
Nobody will argue that what she did is horrible. But, untreated mental illness can make people do "crazy things". And yes, with medication, they can become a completely different person.
Our laws do allow for "Not Criminally Responsible". If what we read is true about Kelly, it sounds like Kelly has a good case for NCR. It doesn't make it any less horrific, but she is receiving rehab and recovering.
Spewing hateful remarks is not going to help anyone.
I still believe that she needs to serve time, but 20 years is too long IMO. It was a very tragic event that, thankfully, ended with a live baby. Not so, in so many other situations.
I agree with you to a point, but she is recieving rehab in a confined setting. What is she going to do when she gets out?? She says that she wants to be with her son, but what is she going to do with the stresses of having a baby crying, and having a child full time?? Is this going to send her crazy again. I don't care how much rehab and medicine you are on, for a normal person having a child sometimes be stressful. What will the next thing be. Why give her a second chance with an innocent child, which she could in all reality hurt again.?? I know everyone deserves a second chance, and maybe she deserves on as a person, but not as a mother. You are right, she is very lucky that someone found that little guy.
QUOTE (Checkingin @ Apr 26 2007, 02:13 PM)
I realize how furious everyone is and rightfully so. Or so it seems.
Judges must have to have the wisdom of Solomon to try and figure these things out.
Nobody will argue that what she did is horrible. But, untreated mental illness can make people do "crazy things". And yes, with medication, they can become a completely different person.
Our laws do allow for "Not Criminally Responsible". If what we read is true about Kelly, it sounds like Kelly has a good case for NCR. It doesn't make it any less horrific, but she is receiving rehab and recovering.
Spewing hateful remarks is not going to help anyone.
I still believe that she needs to serve time, but 20 years is too long IMO. It was a very tragic event that, thankfully, ended with a live baby. Not so, in so many other situations.
Judges must have to have the wisdom of Solomon to try and figure these things out.
Nobody will argue that what she did is horrible. But, untreated mental illness can make people do "crazy things". And yes, with medication, they can become a completely different person.
Our laws do allow for "Not Criminally Responsible". If what we read is true about Kelly, it sounds like Kelly has a good case for NCR. It doesn't make it any less horrific, but she is receiving rehab and recovering.
Spewing hateful remarks is not going to help anyone.
I still believe that she needs to serve time, but 20 years is too long IMO. It was a very tragic event that, thankfully, ended with a live baby. Not so, in so many other situations.
Checkingin,
I'm sorry i see things different. It seems the " mental illness " card gets pulled to much.
I agree 100% " Thank GOD the baby was found! "
She should sit in jail for another 18 years.
This "mistake" was not a "oops, I locked the keys in the car!" kind of a mistake. She freakin' left her baby to die under a g***amn trailer. Sorry, depressed or not, you know the difference between right and wrong when it comes to murder, and if she says she didn't, she has a hell of a lot more issues than depression.
Burn in hell, biatch!
This "mistake" was not a "oops, I locked the keys in the car!" kind of a mistake. She freakin' left her baby to die under a g***amn trailer. Sorry, depressed or not, you know the difference between right and wrong when it comes to murder, and if she says she didn't, she has a hell of a lot more issues than depression.
Burn in hell, biatch!
QUOTE (coma @ Apr 26 2007, 03:58 PM)
She should sit in jail for another 18 years.
This "mistake" was not a "oops, I locked the keys in the car!" kind of a mistake. She freakin' left her baby to die under a g***amn trailer. Sorry, depressed or not, you know the difference between right and wrong when it comes to murder, and if she says she didn't, she has a hell of a lot more issues than depression.
Burn in hell, biatch!
This "mistake" was not a "oops, I locked the keys in the car!" kind of a mistake. She freakin' left her baby to die under a g***amn trailer. Sorry, depressed or not, you know the difference between right and wrong when it comes to murder, and if she says she didn't, she has a hell of a lot more issues than depression.
Burn in hell, biatch!
Coma,
Very well worded.
She should sit in prison for the rest of her sentence. She lost her right to be a mother, when she abandoned her child in Sept. 2005. Plus she only has to serve 5 here in prison.
I just wanted to share this with all of you. I know Kelly Ruck didn't have an abortion. It just seemed to be a great Topic to post this poem.
Month One
MOMMY
I am only 4 inches long
but I have all my organs.
I love the sound of your voice.
The sound of your heart beat
is my favorite lullaby.
Month Two
Mommy
today I learned how to suck my thumb.
If you could see me
you could definitely tell that I am a baby.
I'm not big enough to survive outside my home though.
It is so nice and warm in here.
Month Three
You know what Mommy
I'm a boy!!
I hope that makes you happy.
I always want you to be happy.
I don't like it when you cry.
You sound so sad.
It makes me sad too
and I cry with you even though
you can't hear me.
Month Four
Mommy
my hair is starting to grow.
It is very short and fine
but I will have a lot of it.
I spend a lot of my time exercising.
I can turn my head and curl my fingers and toes
and stretch my arms and legs.
I am becoming quite good at it too.
Month Five
You went to the doctor today.
Mommy, he lied to you.
He said that I'm not a baby.
I am a baby Mommy, your baby.
I think and feel.
Mommy, what's abortion?
Month Six
I can hear that doctor again.
I don't like him.
He seems cold and heartless.
Something is intruding my home.
The doctor called it a needle.
Mommy what is it? It burns!
Please make him stop!
I can't get away from it!
Mommy! HELP me!
Month Seven
Mommy
I am okay.
I am in Jesus's arms.
He is holding me.
He told me about abortion.
Why didn't you want me Mommy?
Every Abortion Is Just . . .
One more heart that was stopped.
Two more eyes that will never see.
Two more hands that will never touch.
Two more legs that will never run.
Two more arms that will never hug.
One more mouth that will never speak.
Month One
MOMMY
I am only 4 inches long
but I have all my organs.
I love the sound of your voice.
The sound of your heart beat
is my favorite lullaby.
Month Two
Mommy
today I learned how to suck my thumb.
If you could see me
you could definitely tell that I am a baby.
I'm not big enough to survive outside my home though.
It is so nice and warm in here.
Month Three
You know what Mommy
I'm a boy!!
I hope that makes you happy.
I always want you to be happy.
I don't like it when you cry.
You sound so sad.
It makes me sad too
and I cry with you even though
you can't hear me.
Month Four
Mommy
my hair is starting to grow.
It is very short and fine
but I will have a lot of it.
I spend a lot of my time exercising.
I can turn my head and curl my fingers and toes
and stretch my arms and legs.
I am becoming quite good at it too.
Month Five
You went to the doctor today.
Mommy, he lied to you.
He said that I'm not a baby.
I am a baby Mommy, your baby.
I think and feel.
Mommy, what's abortion?
Month Six
I can hear that doctor again.
I don't like him.
He seems cold and heartless.
Something is intruding my home.
The doctor called it a needle.
Mommy what is it? It burns!
Please make him stop!
I can't get away from it!
Mommy! HELP me!
Month Seven
Mommy
I am okay.
I am in Jesus's arms.
He is holding me.
He told me about abortion.
Why didn't you want me Mommy?
Every Abortion Is Just . . .
One more heart that was stopped.
Two more eyes that will never see.
Two more hands that will never touch.
Two more legs that will never run.
Two more arms that will never hug.
One more mouth that will never speak.
If you can't afford or want children, you shouldn't have them period. Doesn't matter who you are.
But Ruck should never be able to be around another child period, unless it's under supervison.
Some women are just not cut out to be mothers.
But Ruck should never be able to be around another child period, unless it's under supervison.
Some women are just not cut out to be mothers.
QUOTE (coma @ Apr 26 2007, 03:58 PM)
She should sit in jail for another 18 years.
This "mistake" was not a "oops, I locked the keys in the car!" kind of a mistake. She freakin' left her baby to die under a g***amn trailer. Sorry, depressed or not, you know the difference between right and wrong when it comes to murder, and if she says she didn't, she has a hell of a lot more issues than depression.
Burn in hell, biatch!
This "mistake" was not a "oops, I locked the keys in the car!" kind of a mistake. She freakin' left her baby to die under a g***amn trailer. Sorry, depressed or not, you know the difference between right and wrong when it comes to murder, and if she says she didn't, she has a hell of a lot more issues than depression.
Burn in hell, biatch!
Post partum depression is a very real thing and it is possible she did not know right from wrong if she suffers from it. But it does not change the fact that what she did was wrong, but a psych ward would probably be a better place for her.
you don't get post partum moments after birth.
QUOTE (WVDragonlady @ Apr 27 2007, 11:18 AM)
you don't get post partum moments after birth.
Thank you!! My point exactly. She knew what she was doing. She had the baby on the kitchen floor and then took him out and dropped him off. I can't believe the father got off with nothing. He knew too. And now he has the baby back. What is wrong with the justice system?????
Takes a cold hearted person to do something like that. Maybe she was mental from the start.
Even so, there's no excuse for what she did.
Even so, there's no excuse for what she did.
I think it is hard to condemn this young woman forever, especially not knowing her or her circumstances.
Do you know her personally, momof4?
She is paying for her mistake. She is in jail and she should pay the punishment. I am not so sure it was as cold hearted as it would seem. Someone who does that must have some very serious problems. We really don't know all the facts to say that she was intentionally trying to murder her baby. But, no one in their right mind would leave a baby like that. So....
And again, I have to say that our culture has to take some of the blame as well. We tell teens that it's ok to get rid of their baby just because it's an inconvience. Abortion is seen as acceptable, even late in the pregnancy. It isn't really a baby, you see. Not until it's head is all the way out of the birth canal. Such a strange message to send to mothers. It is a baby if it is wanted, but it's not a baby if it is unwanted. Really sad and very confusing IMO.
I am not saying that she should be allowed to raise the child after abandoning him. I am just saying that there may be alot of information that we are not aware of and I just hope that she gets the help she needs.
Do you know her personally, momof4?
She is paying for her mistake. She is in jail and she should pay the punishment. I am not so sure it was as cold hearted as it would seem. Someone who does that must have some very serious problems. We really don't know all the facts to say that she was intentionally trying to murder her baby. But, no one in their right mind would leave a baby like that. So....
And again, I have to say that our culture has to take some of the blame as well. We tell teens that it's ok to get rid of their baby just because it's an inconvience. Abortion is seen as acceptable, even late in the pregnancy. It isn't really a baby, you see. Not until it's head is all the way out of the birth canal. Such a strange message to send to mothers. It is a baby if it is wanted, but it's not a baby if it is unwanted. Really sad and very confusing IMO.
I am not saying that she should be allowed to raise the child after abandoning him. I am just saying that there may be alot of information that we are not aware of and I just hope that she gets the help she needs.
QUOTE (Checkingin @ Apr 27 2007, 12:46 PM)
I think it is hard to condemn this young woman forever, especially not knowing her or her circumstances.
Do you know her personally, momof4?
She is paying for her mistake. She is in jail and she should pay the punishment. I am not so sure it was as cold hearted as it would seem. Someone who does that must have some very serious problems. We really don't know all the facts to say that she was intentionally trying to murder her baby. But, no one in their right mind would leave a baby like that. So....
And again, I have to say that our culture has to take some of the blame as well. We tell teens that it's ok to get rid of their baby just because it's an inconvience. Abortion is seen as acceptable, even late in the pregnancy. It isn't really a baby, you see. Not until it's head is all the way out of the birth canal. Such a strange message to send to mothers. It is a baby if it is wanted, but it's not a baby if it is unwanted. Really sad and very confusing IMO.
I am not saying that she should be allowed to raise the child after abandoning him. I am just saying that there may be alot of information that we are not aware of and I just hope that she gets the help she needs.
Do you know her personally, momof4?
She is paying for her mistake. She is in jail and she should pay the punishment. I am not so sure it was as cold hearted as it would seem. Someone who does that must have some very serious problems. We really don't know all the facts to say that she was intentionally trying to murder her baby. But, no one in their right mind would leave a baby like that. So....
And again, I have to say that our culture has to take some of the blame as well. We tell teens that it's ok to get rid of their baby just because it's an inconvience. Abortion is seen as acceptable, even late in the pregnancy. It isn't really a baby, you see. Not until it's head is all the way out of the birth canal. Such a strange message to send to mothers. It is a baby if it is wanted, but it's not a baby if it is unwanted. Really sad and very confusing IMO.
I am not saying that she should be allowed to raise the child after abandoning him. I am just saying that there may be alot of information that we are not aware of and I just hope that she gets the help she needs.
I know the father personally, they are blaming this on her childhood. Well I also know Kelly's father and there is nothing wrong with him. She grew up in a loving home as a christian. She just didnt want to deal with the baby. As far as her mental illness goes, well lets just say she is using it for conveinence. I was brutally raped and sodomized at the age of 8 and I have not even thought about doing something like that to another child. No the b---ch needs to rot in hell. Yes meds can help mental illness, if its really there. Heck no I dont feel sorry for her. I just wonder why Scott was never charged. According to him he helped her deliver the baby on the kitchen floor. She had nine months to decide what to do with Connor and she chose the easy way out. She KNEW exactly what she was doing..............God will make her pay in his own way, I just hope its not at connors expense......
Can we take the chance Ruck won't have another "mistake" and kill the child? Why is it the kids always take the risks because adults in the courts and "justice" system give the slimebag adults chance after chance? Betcha most of the decision makers would not sleep in the same room overnight with many of the sleezeballs they give kids back to.
Well, it looks like she conned everybody and is getting her wish. I'm just surprised that she hasn't gotten a beat-down while in there from the other moms. Amazing how when she went to jail for trying to kill her baby, the PPD just * POOF* disappeared!
HAGERSTOWN, MD - A Hagerstown mother who left her baby in an alley is getting out of jail early.
A judge reduced Kelly Ruck's sentence from five to four years. She could be eligible for parole this fall.
Ruck left her son under a woodpile when he was just 12 hours old. He is now almost two years old.
Ruck told the judge last month she had formed a bond with her son and had taken parenting and anger management classes.
Once she is released, she will not be allowed to be alone with her son for the first six months.
The judge also denied the state's request that she refrain from having any more children.
HAGERSTOWN, MD - A Hagerstown mother who left her baby in an alley is getting out of jail early.
A judge reduced Kelly Ruck's sentence from five to four years. She could be eligible for parole this fall.
Ruck left her son under a woodpile when he was just 12 hours old. He is now almost two years old.
Ruck told the judge last month she had formed a bond with her son and had taken parenting and anger management classes.
Once she is released, she will not be allowed to be alone with her son for the first six months.
The judge also denied the state's request that she refrain from having any more children.
Wonder what there do with the next person that does this? I still think she should have served more time.
But the judge was a softy.
But the judge was a softy.
QUOTE (sweetliberty2u @ May 17 2007, 09:16 PM)
Wonder what there do with the next person that does this? I still think she should have served more time.
But the judge was a softy.
But the judge was a softy.
I think alot of male judges are softies when it comes to "mothers". Which I think is a bunch of bovine excrement. All you have to do is look at the things that she and her man did. She gave birth without any kind of "professional" medical assistance, then stuck that baby under a trailer and then covered it from anyone's sight. And when I say that I mean it doesn't matter who actually phsically did the deed, she knew it was done. Cleaned up any evidence that the baby was born. And just went on her merry way, back to doin whatever it was she/they wanted to do.
if I was the judge, she'd be doin more than a measley 4yr stretch. and anyone who helped her would be in the slammer too. There is no excuse for the actions that she/they took. none. not any "instant" PPD( which apaprently instantly disappeared while in the slammer), not being afraid of any type of imagined diffuculties with raising the baby, nothing.
The chick played the game and won. She conned them all and they took it hook, line and sinker. SUCKERS! IMO, she shouldn't be allowed to breed again.
Sad. 
Poor baby...and I mean that literally.
Poor baby...and I mean that literally.
I pretty much agree, WVD.
I think part of parole, probation or any type of early release should be contingent on permanant sterilization! Try and kill a kid once and you should lose the right to make that mistake again
amen samy
The whole thing is just plain stupid. Then people wonder, why children are being kill by their parents.
People ignore the warning signs all to often. This send a bad message to a lot of people.
(Look what we could get away with)
All a mother has to do, if they don't want the child is give it up for adoption. Very simple solution.
People ignore the warning signs all to often. This send a bad message to a lot of people.
(Look what we could get away with)
All a mother has to do, if they don't want the child is give it up for adoption. Very simple solution.
They are essentially putting an attempted murderer back in charge of the victim. Imagine if they tried to do this to an older victim -- say a caregiver to a mentally challenged person. Yet because it was an infant it is deemed less serious. BS.
I'm just glad she is not a minority -- we'd be blamed for being hard on her because of that...
I'm just glad she is not a minority -- we'd be blamed for being hard on her because of that...
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