Hi, I was wondering if you could help me determine or discover what is the best pain medicine to subside my excruciating pain? Ive tried non narcotic synthetic opioids such as Ultram, Narcotics such as Percocet, Vicodin, etc and anti inflammatories like Motrin but none of them help very much even in increased doses. valid help would be appreciated, thanks.

Since herbs are one of my hobbies, try this:

Oleander leaves, steeped in water for 30 minutes or so. Strain the leaves, drink the water, usually 1/2 cup daily will do. Your pain should subside within 3-4 days.

Oh wait! That's the recipe for oleander poison.

Nope, got nothing.

All joking aside, in this day and age there is NO reason why you should live in pain.

You might want to check out a new doctor, one that specializes in PAIN MANAGEMENT.

If what you tell us is true, your pain must be incredible.

I'll keep you in my prayers. By the way, have YOU tried prayer. A good double-shot of God can work wonders.

It is terrible and it affects my moods as you can see in here. ive been to physical therapy and it amde it worse. Also since my MRI results came out they do not want me to continue therapy because my diagnosis is too risky. Well I have to wait til August 8th when I see a neurosurgeon before I can get any pain pills again so its gonna be a rough one. I get up and walk outside every 15 mins or so because the pain murders me just sitting in the chair talking to you guys.

Walk more, type less.

ha i know about pain, ive been going to pain managment for years, i take 50 mg of oxycodine now , not very much help either, im awake most of the night , dont go out side much do nothing as far as work , takes all day to clean a bath room , work awhile then hit the chair and lay back, i dont think they have anything for pain, i just went to the dr and he said if anything new comes out he would call me to come in, ive been on about 7 or 8 different things no help.so i live with it. its not easy.

Yeah I know what you mean. I been living with it the past 9 years or so. First I broke my tibial plateau real bad and got 2 real thick screws thru my leg, was on crutches for 6 months, it was that bad. Now something is eating away at me it feels like inside, The back problems are spreading further. My tolerance level is way too high for percocets and others. Oxycontin makes me kind of sick too.

I can only walk so much too because of my leg. I dont which one is worse leg or back at times.

This man will fix your affliction ripper...
that is all

Lmao Greedy, I bet he would. Maybe if I stopped by the bookstore some old man with GH and G would numb me temporarily too. I wonder how long Ill be bed ridden if they operate on my back? It is the upper region-cervical. I have degenrative disk disease, osteophytes, stenosis, nerve impingemnets all radiating on both sides and its spreading downward.

Every thought of applying heat to the area? When I fell off a ladder about 26 ft down back in 2000 and facture my lower back, broke both pelivc bone and my left arm. Seem like the heat helped a lot better then the meds. I was taken. I would take a wash cloth make it wet and stick it in the microwave for a little bit. And apply it to the area were it hurt, especially my lower back.

Just a thought

I would think taking pain meds. for a long period of time. Your body would get immune to them
and wouldn't have much of a effect on the pain. just wondering.

Yes liberty Ive done that quite a bit-thanks. After doing that it feels like its on fire though sometimes. The pain meds yes liberty I have become immune to many of them but Percocets work the best if the dosage isnt real weak and its the only thing I dont get sick from. By saying work the best it doesnt mean that it does very good though.

See I helped you after all while you were LMAO I bet your back didn't hurt.

Benny need to heal that damn hairdo he's got goin'...

Thats a good way to put it but I tell you what if i did it really out loud it would hurt Thanks greedy see that may be the answer I was looking for, I need happiness and I really dont feel that I will ever get that. It may be the ahrdest thing I could find to get rid of the pain. A few secs of laughs dont do the trick Greedy but nice try.

Is a mophine pump implant an option? I think they plant a sack thing in you that you can release the morphine to the area yourself and have it refilled at the doctor's.

Have you read The Secret?

I have not, but have heard, it is basically the power of positive thinking.

You are an extremely negative person, Flip. Try thinking positive thoughts, MAYBE it will help. You seem to me to be to far along the negative path though.

Patton has a very good point indeed. I truely believe in that conspect totally.

Even after I woke up from a 1 day coma, all I wanted to do was go home. Even though I couldn't move really. After all the doctor wanted to stick me in a rehab place. I said no way, I'm going home to my kids, I'll be alright. I fault them, no way was they going to stick me in a rehab. I knew I was going to be alright. After I went back to the doctors 2 months later, all bones were pretty much healed up. I didn't have to wear the body case no more. In my mine, I was more worry about my children then of myself.

Sorry to ramble. It is a true story.

Jack Daniels.

Yes good point Patton, I do think positive whenever I see that theres reason too. I have many things that Im positive about but those things have no power or worth in todays world.

Hey don't be a hog, give me a drink. j/k

Patton also I choose not to pretend about things thats why its difficult for me to believe that many things are positive. I thank you for the suggestion though.

Think what Patton meant was think postive about your body and the pain.

Like close your eyes think to yourself. There is no pain, there is no pain.

I know that's groofy

I'm not sure about iv pumps for outpatient use, but perhaps something like a fentanyl patches? They last about 3 days and would give a timed release of the drugs so you wouldn't feel the ups and downs of a q4-6 hr oral med. Other than that, I would suggest, as someone else did earlier, that you try a pain management clinic. Also, what about accupuncture or hypnosis? Not sure that I buy into all that, but it's worth a shot if everything else thus far has failed.

Moms I think I like your idea very good and it may be more feasible. I dont believe in that acupuncture and other junk either. Im beginning to see your point about our similarities. Uh-oh. Heaven help me as well. lol

With all due respect, you need to develop a better attitude. Your negativity about all things is only bringing you down and making the pain worse.

Learn to accept people for who they are, not what you want them to be. Look at things with a positive/can do attitude. The old "glass half full" thing.

It's not going to relieve the pain but it may make it a bit more bearable.

Wise words from Old Mightly Yoss

Very well said, indeed.

Yoss, but the glass is not half full. it is not even a quarter full. Id love to be positive but I have to see it first. I do see most people for who they are and thats what the problem is I wish I was oblivious and didnt know what was going on then Id join the gang. I have a good humorous attitude if im not depressed,yes I do need to have a better attitude but I cant do it without a reason.

The only real cure that will relieve you from all your pain is a 9MM to the temple

You might be right samy0. If youd like to be the one to do it then lets pick a secluded spot where no one knows so you can get away with it and Ill even write a suicide note to assist you. It may as well happen if nothing is gonna change for the better for em, whats the use to keep wasting time and making a fool out of myself to put in any effort?

Actually, better than a 9mm is a 12 gauge, barrel stuck in your mouth.... but fill the barrel up first with water--saw that once, made quite the mess.


The above was for demonstration purposes only, do not try this at home, or someone elses home, or in a car or other vehicle, nor any public place. Shoving a gun barrel in your mouth and pulling the trigger is extremely dangerous and will undoubtedly cause your death.

Maybe do it in some secluded field then so the buzzards can have the mess. Id really like to obtain some of those fentanyl patches that moms said at least until samy0 gets loaded up.

That was my first thought when I read this thread, but I thought I would keep it to myself.




Fixed it for you.

Ive located the perfect spot. Get your affairs in order then give me a date and time

Should we bring flowers or farm animals?

Why dont you just do it without a weapon? With all my injuries you could take advantage of that. However I guarantee you if not for the injuries and we were on equal ground, you would lose. I say that because its never been done whenever Ive fought back. Affairs? HA HA theres no affairs I dont have money therefore Im not important, no one would even know I was gone and could care less if they did.

Liberty I will have one last request and thats intimacy with you.

I have an appointment at the neurosurgeon on August 8th. I wonder if they will want to do surgery. Well if anything he better give me a mess of percocets, the strong ones.

I bet the moderator of the forum loves my avatar. Omg I am laughing so hard!

i think maybe you should stop wallowing in self loathing and pity and choose to put more energy into positive things. here's a news flash, friend: things will NEVER "get better". if you want things to change you have to change them yourself. you can't just sit around saying "oh why do these things happen to me... when will something good happen to MEEeeEee, ... why is everyone else so lucky?!" and expect things to be different. you have to wake up and decide that your going to have a better day today than you did yesterday. stop being a victim, and you might feel less like one.

i could go out and perform better than others in whatever it may be and its still not gonna change, i have already been through the hard work concept. I could go all out and make extreme efforts as i had done for so long only to hit roadblocks that shouldnt be a true evaluation of your worth. ok all of a sudden im just going to not have any emotions and an hour from now im gonna say im the hottest, smartest, nicest person in the world and i am gonna get everything i want. im gonna just gonna ignore everything thats truly happening and thats gonna happen. I do that and i dont wanna hear anyone saying im stuck on myself cuz thats what they always do. many people tell me to be that way christine, just go all out for the self. christine i think we are from 2 different worlds, im in a different world from most however because i see what i see and i know what im gonna see from the results of whatever. basically you have told me to just ignore my feelings like alot of others have. to be a vicious cold hearted snake with the end result of reaching the goal of everything to my benefit, who cares about others right? ive got so much more to add to this i just dont have alot of time today at work. i know damn well i could work my butt off and it holds no comparison to how i could manipulate to get my way, thats the thing too everyone is a salesman and damn i see right thru them. i could be fake and come in here saying its such a great day and most people are awesome and so forth. i see what your point is however and many have told me that but im not gonna be fake. what is- is -what is no sugar coating or painting masterpieces over something thats truly abstract. i know whats going on in this world, i wish i didnt because i might just believe and fall for things how most people do (mainstream)

if i see something good happening to me then i acknowledge it and only if i see or sense it. i dont consider so many others to be lucky at all i just dont think they deserve what they have over others who do. im glad im not like the ones you think i mean are lucky. if i was like that id definitely have to throw in the towel.

where did i ever say ignore feelings? or be fake? or sugar coat? i didnt say any of those things. what do those things have to do with not being a victim? absolutely nothing.

dont try to simplify things or re-word anything as far as what you meant lol. i can 'hope' for the best all i want but thats all it is'hope'. im just not gonna hide what im feeling physically or anyway else is sort of what i meant.

Christine, Like you in on a little secret. Flippers been that way since he join the forum.
So your only talking to a brick wall, nothing ever seem to sink in that head of his.

It's the SOS, different day.

Thats true, I appreciate all of your efforts to try and make me see your 'right' way but I wont change til I see reason to. How do you like my avatar liberty? Look like someone familar? Oh hey liberty I posted some comments on my profile to answer your comments from a long time ago. My back is killing me now I think I will see about getting some beer when I leave here for a attempt to subside the pain.

I really don't care how you see things. I don't care if you change or not. Your the one that has to live you own life, not me.
Like I said before, I think your weird. If your way of thinking gets you though the day. Then whatever. It's not on me.

No I don't recognize you avatar, why am I suppose too? Didn't pay much attention, until you pointed it out.

Yea, I seen you commnet. Your just trying to get attention. You sure a person that lives in the pass.
I choose not to live in the pass, The pass in History. I choose to live for today, and for all days to come.

Don't right off acupuncture so quickly...my wife swears by it.

She was seeing someone in Shepherstown WV for a year or
so until the person closed their practice and moved. She
stopped going for awhile but then picked it up again when
she found out that our health insurance helps pay for 12
visits a year. She found someone in Hagerstown that she
sees now, right down the street from Municipal Stadium
on Cleveland Street. She's always in a much better mood
after her sessions.