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Bin Laden Asks Iraq Insurgents to Unite

[b]By LEE KEATH, AP
55 minutes ago // [/b]
CAIRO, Egypt —

Osama bin Laden called for Iraqi insurgents to unite and avoid divisive "extremism," speaking in an audiotape aired Monday and apparently intended to win over Sunnis opposed to al-Qaida's branch in Iraq.

In the audiotape broadcast on Al-Jazeera television, bin Laden said insurgents should admit "mistakes" and that he even advises himself not to be extreme in his leadership.

The tape appeared to be in response to moves by some Sunni Arab tribes in Iraq that have joined U.S. troops in fighting al-Qaida members, as well as other Sunni insurgent groups that _ while still attacking Americans _ have formed coalitions opposed to al-Qaida.

"Some of you have been lax in one duty, which is to unite your ranks," bin Laden said in the audiotape. "Beware of division ... Muslims are waiting for you to gather under a single banner to champion righteousness. Be keen to oblige with this duty."

"I advise myself, Muslims in general and brothers in al-Qaida everywhere to avoid extremism among men and groups," he said, saying leaders should not build themselves up as the sole authority, and that instead mujahedeen should follow "what God and his prophet have said."

Bin Laden used the Arabic word "ta'assub," which in traditional Islamic thought means extremism in allegiance or adherence to a group, to a degree that excludes others _ apparently advising flexibility to overcome divisions.

"Everybody can make a mistake, but the best of them are those who admit their mistakes," he said. "Mistakes have been made during holy wars but mujahedeen have to correct their mistakes."

U.S. counterterrorism authorities were studying the content and authenticity of the audiotape. However, officials often note that no one has faked a bin Laden recording in the past.

Al-Jazeera did not say how it obtained the tape.

IntelCenter, a a U.S. group that monitors militant messages, said it was bin Laden's third public statement this year, with the previous two on Sept. 8 and Sept. 20.






i just bet they didn't say how they obtained the tape! i have a good idea.. we have enough troops over there, can't we send someone to go ASK!?
Snoopy
Bin Laden warns against extremism??? blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif That's like Idiot warning people to be objective regarding Bush!
Udmas
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Snoopy
QUOTE (Idiot @ Oct 23 2007, 10:05 PM) *
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Oct 23 2007, 12:00 PM) *
Bin Laden warns against extremism??? blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif That's like Idiot warning people to be objective regarding Bush!


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Or Snoopy warning illegal immigrants about an ICE raid.


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Ya got that right. Just this week someone locally died due to a drunk driver -- that is bad enough -- but the drunk was not even supposed to be in this country. Too many in gov't. and business encourage or ignore such behavior and now have (more) blood on their hands. mad.gif
christine_dixon
we have to be nice to the illegals. otherwise, Bin Laden will contact them via dora the explorer and attempt to align them with "el queda". then we'd be screwed. "el quesedilla", the new terrorist sleeper cell, would take us down landscape crew by landscape crew.
txexpatriot
All we probably have to do to find him is blare out El macarena or Don't Worry Be Happy at the villages he is near...
christine_dixon
apparently there is some controversy now:
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al-Qaida Takes Issue With Al-Jazeera

This image from video released by IntelCenter on Tuesday, Oct. 23, 2007 show...
By MAGGIE MICHAEL, AP
Seconds ago

CAIRO, Egypt —

Al-Qaida sympathizers have unleashed a torrent of anger against Al-Jazeera television, accusing it of misrepresenting Osama bin Laden's latest audiotape by airing excerpts in which he criticizes mistakes by insurgents in Iraq.

Users of a leading Islamic militant Web forum posted thousands of insults against the pan-Arab station for focusing on excerpts in which bin Laden criticizes insurgents, including his followers.

Analysts said the reaction highlighted militants' surprise at bin Laden's words, and their dismay at the deep divisions among al-Qaida and other Iraqi militants that he appeared to be trying to heal.

"It's not about Al-Jazeera, it's about their shock from bin Laden," said Diaa Rashwan, an Egyptian expert on Islamic militant groups. "For the first time, bin Laden, who used to be the spiritual leader who gives guidance, became a critic of al-Qaida and is confessing mistakes. This is unusual."

"God fight Al-Jazeera," railed one militant Web poster, calling the station a "collaborator with the Crusaders" for suggesting the tape showed weakness in al-Qaida and featuring discussions of how the tape reflected weaknesses and divisions among insurgents in Iraq.

The recording aired Monday contained unusually strong criticism of insurgents in Iraq from bin Laden, who urges them to admit mistakes and unify. Bin Laden even aknowledges that he advises himself not to be "fanatical" in his stances.

"Some of you have been lax in one duty, which is to unite your ranks," bin Laden said. "Beware of division ... Muslims are waiting for you to gather under a single banner to champion righteousness. Be keen to oblige with this duty."

"I advise myself, Muslims in general and brothers in al-Qaida everywhere to avoid extremism among men and groups," he said.

The tape was met with a cautiously positive response from at least one insurgent coalition that has been opposed to al-Qaida.

But the Al-Fajr Media Center, which usually posts al-Qaida video and audio tapes on the Web, accused Al-Jazeera of "counterfeiting the facts" by making the speech appear as exclusively critical of insurgents.

"Al-Jazeera directors have shamefully chosen to back the Crusaders' side, and the defenders of hypocrites and the thugs and traitors of Iraq," Al-Fajr said in a statement posted on several Islamic Web sites.

Another Web contributor even rattled off a five-stanza poem of rhymed couplets, comparing the station to a "miserable fly in the garbage" and concluding, "Your day will come, vile one. As long as we live, you won't be safe, Jazeera."

Few of the thousands of messages posted by contributors on the Web sites _ who are only identified by usernames _ called for direct violence against Al-Jazeera. Most instead urged that the full bin Laden tape be distributed as widely as possible on the Web to show its true message.

The full 30-minute audio was posted on Islamic Web sites the day after excerpts were aired by Al-Jazeera. It features long sections praising insurgents for their "holy war" against U.S. and Iraqi troops and urging Iraqis to join them.

The editor-in-chief of the Qatar-based station, Ahmed Sheik, refused to comment on the criticism but said the tape had not been misrepresented.

"Every time, we deal with their tapes same way we did last time," he told The Associated Press.

Bin Laden's message came at a time of deepening splits in the Sunni Arab insurgency in Iraq. Some insurgent groups have formed a coalition rivaling one set up by al-Qaida in Iraq. Other factions have broken away and joined U.S. troops in fighting al-Qaida. A group of Sunni Arab tribes in the western province of Anbar also have campaigned against al-Qaida.

The splits are believed to have been caused by anger over al-Qaida attempts to dominate the insurgency as well as by its killings of Sunni tribal leaders and its attempts to impose Taliban-like rules.

The spokesman of one coalition of insurgents opposed to al-Qaida welcomed bin Laden's call and even left open the possibility of working with al-Qaida if its mistakes were corrected.

"We don't want to get ahead of ourselves ... but the subject is put forward before the council," Khattab Abdul-Rahman al-Jabbouri, spokesman of the Political Council of the Iraqi Resistance, told Al-Jazeera in an interview.

He said al-Qaida in Iraq's actions "damaged the social fabric of the Iraqi people." But "if someone corrects their mistake, no matter who they are, then that is a good thing. That's what we hope for today, so that we can end the mistakes and unify our ranks so we can be a single line against the aggressor," he said.

Kara Driggers, Mideast analyst for the Terrorism Research Center, said bin Laden's criticisms of al-Qaida in Iraq and his rhetoric addressing all Iraqis _ including tribal leaders _ "seems to have brought more authority to the request (for unity) and the groups are taking it more seriously."

But Eric Rosenbach, a terror expert and executive director of research at Harvard University's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, said the splits will be difficult to mend, pointing out that Sunni tribal leaders in Iraq view bin Laden as being as foreign as the Americans.

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Associated Press Writer Carley Petesch in New York contributed to this repo
Unbelieveable
I know i will take alot of BS for posting this but it really makes sense to me. I'm sure alot of members will disagree and thats fine this is a Forum <Duh> and we all have our own opinions.


http://dave.henroid.net/archives/000302.html
christine_dixon
QUOTE (Unbelieveable @ Oct 29 2007, 10:00 AM) *
I know i will take alot of BS for posting this but it really makes sense to me. I'm sure alot of members will disagree and thats fine this is a Forum <Duh> and we all have our own opinions.


http://dave.henroid.net/archives/000302.html


what's that have to do with bin laden's latest video?
Unbelieveable
QUOTE (christine_dixon @ Oct 29 2007, 10:12 AM) *
QUOTE (Unbelieveable @ Oct 29 2007, 10:00 AM) *
I know i will take alot of BS for posting this but it really makes sense to me. I'm sure alot of members will disagree and thats fine this is a Forum <Duh> and we all have our own opinions.


http://dave.henroid.net/archives/000302.html


what's that have to do with bin laden's latest video?


Nothing.
christine_dixon
QUOTE (Unbelieveable @ Oct 29 2007, 10:20 AM) *
QUOTE (christine_dixon @ Oct 29 2007, 10:12 AM) *
QUOTE (Unbelieveable @ Oct 29 2007, 10:00 AM) *
I know i will take alot of BS for posting this but it really makes sense to me. I'm sure alot of members will disagree and thats fine this is a Forum <Duh> and we all have our own opinions.


http://dave.henroid.net/archives/000302.html


what's that have to do with bin laden's latest video?


Nothing.




lmao. the why's it in this thread!

::shakes fist::
lmao.
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