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christine_dixon
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Frederick County NAACP Holds Press Conference Reported by: Lena Vargas
Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 @08:40am EST
FREDERICK, MD - Frederick County's NAACP will hold its own press conference on Gray's death Tuesday.
In a written statement, the NAACP said they want the sheriff to suspend the use of tasers until they can answer more questions about Gray's death and another tasing.
The president of the NAACP said another young African American was tased at Tuscorara high school on October eighth.
The NAACP is also calling on the civil rights division of the US justice department's to investigate.
The conference will be at the C. Burr Artz public library later Tuesday, so stay tuned to NBC25 for coverage on that.

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Frederick Sheriff Defends Use Of Tasers After Weekend Death Reported by: Kaitlin McCarthy
Monday, Nov 19, 2007 @06:58pm EST
FREDERICK COUNTY, MD - The sheriff of Frederick County is speaking out about a tasing that turned deadly Sunday morning.

As a deputy was breaking up a fight, a 20-year-old Frederick man was tased and later died at the hospital.

The sheriff's office calls tasers a less than lethal weapon that law enforcement officers are trained to use to control potentially deadly situations.

At a press conference Monday, Sheriff Chuck Jenkins said they are launching two separate investigations into what caused 20-year-old Jarrel Gray's (pictured) death and if the deputy's actions were justified.

Sheriff Jenkins says when the deputy responded to Gresham Court East early Sunday morning, he ordered the four individuals involved to show their hands.

The sheriff says when Gray didn't listen, the deputy tased him once while he was standing.

Gray later died at Frederick Memorial Hospital.

Sheriff Jenkins says his deputies go through extensive training and are taught to use tasers when it's necessary and reasonable to control a situation when the officers' safety or a citizen's safety is in danger.

Sheriff Jenkins says the tase itself is not deadly and he's not pulling tasers off the street.

He explains, "It in itself does not cause a death. Usually there are contributing factors of some sort, an existing condition, maybe a heart condition, in a lot of cases, drug use. So there are generally contributing factors when someone dies, something else has caused the death."

The deputy involved in the tasing is not being named, but the deputy is on administrative leave with pay.

Gray's body is at the office of the chief medical examiner, and until the sheriff's office gets his autopsy results back it's not clear if Gray died from the tasing itself or if there were some other issues like a health condition that contributed to his death.






bottom line... a kid is dead. i think it should be handled the same no matter what race he was... i'm not sure why the naacp is involved here? sounds to me like a case of a young man who could not follow directions and was taken down with a taser... isnt that what is supposed to happen?
txexpatriot
Good grief! Another bunch of useful idiots who should just go away. I did not even know the vic was black until I read that...I just assumed he was a thug..
christine_dixon
QUOTE (txexpatriot @ Nov 20 2007, 10:47 AM) *
Good grief! Another bunch of useful idiots who should just go away. I did not even know the vic was black until I read that...I just assumed he was a thug..

exactly! what difference does it make what his race was? he was asked to show his hands... he didn't listen... CONSEQUENCES. he didn't get tased because of his skin color, he got tased because he got into a big fight and continued to be disorderly by not following instructions!


get over it. sad that he died, but it doesn't sound like race-driven police brutality to me! and notice they don't mention the race of the other three individuals who were disturbing the peace with their brawl? and why is that? IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SITUATION. had he not ( unfortunately) died, we may have never known his race....
Bentcorner
QUOTE (christine_dixon @ Nov 20 2007, 10:50 AM) *
exactly! what difference does it make what his race was? he was asked to show his hands... he didn't listen...


He was partially deaf.
hagopinion
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 20 2007, 11:15 AM) *
QUOTE (christine_dixon @ Nov 20 2007, 10:50 AM) *
exactly! what difference does it make what his race was? he was asked to show his hands... he didn't listen...


He was partially deaf.



Maybe that is the issue not that he was black. I think Deafnet and some thousands of deaf people should come to Frederick to protest.
Bentcorner
QUOTE (hagopinion @ Nov 20 2007, 11:18 AM) *
Maybe that is the issue not that he was black. I think Deafnet and some thousands of deaf people should come to Frederick to protest.


It's already getting coverage on the deaf blogs.
christine_dixon
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 20 2007, 11:21 AM) *
QUOTE (hagopinion @ Nov 20 2007, 11:18 AM) *
Maybe that is the issue not that he was black. I think Deafnet and some thousands of deaf people should come to Frederick to protest.


It's already getting coverage on the deaf blogs.



first off, how are the cops supposed to know that? obviously he heard well enough to understand whatever started the fight. and when the three other dudes beside you put your hands up and you see cops, its a good idea to follow suit. and i still havent gotten an answer as to why the naacp thinks this is their ballpark?
hagopinion
CD-did you not see the picture? He is black.

OFF SUBJECT:
Can you still record that Alleganyvs. FortHill game? I think they moved it back a week or so.
Bentcorner
QUOTE (christine_dixon @ Nov 20 2007, 11:24 AM) *
first off, how are the cops supposed to know that? obviously he heard well enough to understand whatever started the fight. and when the three other dudes beside you put your hands up and you see cops, its a good idea to follow suit. and i still havent gotten an answer as to why the naacp thinks this is their ballpark?


You're right. They should have killed him.
christine_dixon
QUOTE (hagopinion @ Nov 20 2007, 11:26 AM) *
CD-did you not see the picture? He is black.

OFF SUBJECT:
Can you still record that Alleganyvs. FortHill game? I think they moved it back a week or so.

ya i can record it...

who CARES if he was black. what does a crimminal getting tasered have to do with helping colored people advace? maybe they SHOULD be protesting the VIOLENCE that STARTED the whole mess, not the tragedy that followed as a direct result of their actions.
Bentcorner
In fact, I would sue the family of the black deaf kid for the money it will cost to recharge the taser gun.
Snoopy
Is it a race issue? Let's ask McBean -- she probably took a course on it recently... rolleyes.gif
CleverNameGoesHere
Even with the guy's hearing problem, he was fighting (or PRETENDING to fight, would appear the same to a neighbor looking out their window at 5:30 in the morning) and should've known what the situation would look like to the cops that pulled up. He could see the flashing lights, couldn't he? I've never interacted with an officer but if I saw one of their cars pull up, I'd damn well be paying attention to him and to what the others with me were doing, as far as following the directions I couldn't hear myself.
txexpatriot
Ok-maybe I'm a moron, but where did it say he was deaf/hearing impaired? I just heard on the radio that he was only tasered 1x per the log on the taser...
sweetliberty2u
Oh my hear were go again. This is clearly not a race issue. Why should it be?

For one the person was tased after that he died.
So what exactlly cause the death of this young person?
How safe are the tasers, to someone of that size?
Did he have a underlining medical condition?
Now the real question is was it the taser that cause his death?

It's a known fact that police officers are highly train to use them.
They even use taser on each other in training, so they know the impact it can have.
But they are men, that was a young person. Size, Weight could have a factor.
communityhagerstown
Having a hearing impaired child in my household I will reserve judgment. I pray for the family experiencing the loss of their child. Thankfully, Deafnet and others in the hearing impaired community are utilizing this as an educational opportunity for youth. They are also grieving for this family's loss. The death of anyone's child is tragic for a mom and dad. Kudos to those families attempting to find a positive in this tragic loss of life, while grieving for the loss. The deaf community is not attaching blame but circling the wagons and offering support and seeing where education is needed. All kids and young adults deserve to be safe, it is harder for some. I can not walk in anyone's shoes but I will hug my kids tighter today.
MWilliamson
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 20 2007, 11:30 AM) *
In fact, I would sue the family of the black deaf kid for the money it will cost to recharge the taser gun.




What a poor Statement sad.gif Looks like you arte playing stupid. Don't worry , you're winning biggrin.gif
MWilliamson
QUOTE (MWilliamson @ Nov 20 2007, 04:12 PM) *
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 20 2007, 11:30 AM) *
In fact, I would sue the family of the black deaf kid for the money it will cost to recharge the taser gun.




What a poor Statement sad.gif Looks like you arte playing stupid. Don't worry , you're winning biggrin.gif
I mean you are playing stupid , for all the jokers out there that will comment on my spelling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
christine_dixon
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Family Holds Vigil For Man Who Died Following Taser Incident
Play Media
Reported by: Megan Healey

Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 @11:22pm EST

Vigil2007-11-20-1195623621.jpgFREDERICK, MD - Friends and family of Jarrel Gray came together Tuesday night for a vigil in his honor.


Family members of the 20-year-old say he was a good kid who was trying to get his life together after graduating from Frederick High School; he'd actually planned on going on a job interview this past Monday.


They say the outpouring of support from the community, and the NAACP, has helped them in their time of grief.

"We were all trying to find answers but I think we found those answers in our heart that Jarrel was a loving young man, a very respectful young man,” says Pastor Yolanda Gamble.

taserdeath2007-11-20-1195622704.jpg"The kids, this is what they asked to do. And they came and asked for permission and so I felt as though it was necessary to release some of the sadness they were carrying in their hearts also,” says grandmother Anna Thomas.

The Frederick County Sheriff's Office is still investigating the incident. The corporal involved has been placed on administrative leave.


hmm. i wonder why he's on admin. leave? maybe there's more to this story? or. maybe this is crap.
txexpatriot
Anytime you are involved in a situation which results in death, you are put on paid admin leave until the investigation is completed. It is SOP.
coma
Well, if the officer asked them to raise their hands ONCE without repeating, then he tased the kid, I would say that is an issue. The information downloaded from the Taser showed that he was shocked a second time approx 23 seconds after the first. 23 seconds is a long time to decide whether someone needs a 2nd shock or not, folks, AND the police officer said that he was only shocked once.

Also, his partial deafness was only in one ear.

Here is the victim's criminal record:

BURGLARY-FOURTH DEGREE 09/07/2006
POSSESSION-MARIHUANA 07/21/2006
ASSAULT-SEC DEGREE 11/01/2006
RESIST/INTERFERE With ARREST 11/01/2006
ASSAULT-SEC DEGREE 02/07/2007
OBSTRUCTING & HINDERING 02/07/2007
FAIL OBEY RENBLE/LAWFL 02/07/2007
DISORDERLY CONDUCT 02/07/2007

Seems to me that the kid was probably disobeying orders but that the force used by police was a little excessive. JMO
Bentcorner
QUOTE (coma @ Nov 21 2007, 08:56 AM) *
Seems to me that the kid was probably disobeying orders but that the force used by police was a little excessive. JMO


Wow, you think?
christine_dixon
QUOTE (coma @ Nov 21 2007, 08:56 AM) *
Well, if the officer asked them to raise their hands ONCE without repeating, then he tased the kid, I would say that is an issue. The information downloaded from the Taser showed that he was shocked a second time approx 23 seconds after the first. 23 seconds is a long time to decide whether someone needs a 2nd shock or not, folks, AND the police officer said that he was only shocked once.


now THAT pisses me off.
coma
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 21 2007, 09:01 AM) *
Wow, you think?

Well since it was you that implied his partial deafness may have had something to do with the issue, I was merely pointing out that he was only partially deaf in one ear to clear that up for you and the rest of the forum. I highly doubt that the officer whispered to him. rolleyes.gif
Bentcorner
QUOTE (coma @ Nov 21 2007, 09:07 AM) *
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 21 2007, 09:01 AM) *
Wow, you think?

Well since it was you that implied his partial deafness may have had something to do with the issue, I was merely pointing out that he was only partially deaf in one ear to clear that up for you and the rest of the forum. I highly doubt that the officer whispered to him. rolleyes.gif


According to news articles, he wasn't "partially deaf in one ear". He was completely deaf in one of his ears.

It's hard to say what the deputy did. It was reported earlier that he Tasered the man only once. Either that was a lie or the Taser is defective since the onboard computer shows that the Taser was fired *twice*. I'm guessing that the deputy lied since the Frederick County Sheriff is insisting that the Taser is safe and will not discontinue using them. This would seem to rule out the Taser being defective.
txexpatriot
So, he really was a thug per his record..which of course is just since 2006 when he became 18...interesting...will be interesting to see what really happened...

And he was only partially deaf in 1 ear--hmmmm...so he was basically deaf if he wanted to be(sorta like students and my own children)..
Bentcorner
QUOTE (christine_dixon @ Nov 21 2007, 09:03 AM) *
AND the police officer said that he was only shocked once.

now THAT pisses me off.


I'm guessing now you might see why the NAACP is getting involved?
christine_dixon
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 21 2007, 09:23 AM) *
QUOTE (christine_dixon @ Nov 21 2007, 09:03 AM) *
AND the police officer said that he was only shocked once.

now THAT pisses me off.


I'm guessing now you might see why the NAACP is getting involved?




no... still not sure how it's a race issue... that was my entire question. i was wondering if there was some element of this that would indicate that any misconduct on the part of the officers was racially driven... or are we just assuming becuase the young man happened to be black?
Bentcorner
QUOTE (txexpatriot @ Nov 21 2007, 09:20 AM) *
So, he really was a thug per his record..which of course is just since 2006 when he became 18...interesting...will be interesting to see what really happened...

And he was only partially deaf in 1 ear--hmmmm...so he was basically deaf if he wanted to be(sorta like students and my own children)..


How do you know that he was a "thug"? How can you tell this about him without knowing him? Also, he was completely deaf in one ear, not partially deaf.
Bentcorner
QUOTE (christine_dixon @ Nov 21 2007, 09:24 AM) *
no... still not sure how it's a race issue... that was my entire question. i was wondering if there was some element of this that would indicate that any misconduct on the part of the officers was racially driven... or are we just assuming becuase the young man happened to be black?


The unnamed deputy that killed this man has a whole group speaking for him. In fact, they so far have even refused to identify the deputy. It's good to see that somebody is stepping up and speaking for Jarrel Gray.

The reality is the some in law enforcement treat black people differently then white people.
christine_dixon
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 21 2007, 09:33 AM) *
QUOTE (christine_dixon @ Nov 21 2007, 09:24 AM) *
no... still not sure how it's a race issue... that was my entire question. i was wondering if there was some element of this that would indicate that any misconduct on the part of the officers was racially driven... or are we just assuming becuase the young man happened to be black?


The unnamed deputy that killed this man has a whole group speaking for him. In fact, they so far have even refused to identify the deputy. It's good to see that somebody is stepping up and speaking for Jarrel Gray.

The reality is the some in law enforcement treat black people differently then white people.

i just think it's sorta dumb to assume that this was race driven . inappropriate? its looking that way, yes. here's a question... if it had been a white kid... what group would have spoken for him? what if the officer had been black?
Bentcorner
QUOTE (christine_dixon @ Nov 21 2007, 09:39 AM) *
i just think it's sorta dumb to assume that this was race driven . inappropriate? its looking that way, yes. here's a question... if it had been a white kid... what group would have spoken for him? what if the officer had been black?


My guess is that if it was a white kid, he wouldn't have been Tasered. Does the Frederick County Sheriffs have any black deputies?
hagopinion
Here is the victim's criminal record:

BURGLARY-FOURTH DEGREE 09/07/2006
POSSESSION-MARIHUANA 07/21/2006
ASSAULT-SEC DEGREE 11/01/2006
RESIST/INTERFERE With ARREST 11/01/2006
ASSAULT-SEC DEGREE 02/07/2007
OBSTRUCTING & HINDERING 02/07/2007
FAIL OBEY RENBLE/LAWFL 02/07/2007
DISORDERLY CONDUCT 02/07/2007

Sounds to me that he deserved to die!!!!!
Bentcorner
QUOTE (hagopinion @ Nov 21 2007, 09:57 AM) *
Here is the victim's criminal record:

BURGLARY-FOURTH DEGREE 09/07/2006
POSSESSION-MARIHUANA 07/21/2006
ASSAULT-SEC DEGREE 11/01/2006
RESIST/INTERFERE With ARREST 11/01/2006
ASSAULT-SEC DEGREE 02/07/2007
OBSTRUCTING & HINDERING 02/07/2007
FAIL OBEY RENBLE/LAWFL 02/07/2007
DISORDERLY CONDUCT 02/07/2007

Sounds to me that he deserved to die!!!!!


Where did you find his criminal record?
christine_dixon
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 21 2007, 10:03 AM) *
QUOTE (hagopinion @ Nov 21 2007, 09:57 AM) *
Here is the victim's criminal record:

BURGLARY-FOURTH DEGREE 09/07/2006
POSSESSION-MARIHUANA 07/21/2006
ASSAULT-SEC DEGREE 11/01/2006
RESIST/INTERFERE With ARREST 11/01/2006
ASSAULT-SEC DEGREE 02/07/2007
OBSTRUCTING & HINDERING 02/07/2007
FAIL OBEY RENBLE/LAWFL 02/07/2007
DISORDERLY CONDUCT 02/07/2007

Sounds to me that he deserved to die!!!!!


Where did you find his criminal record?


coma the fabulous net sleuth posted it earlier in this thread.
communityhagerstown
Have a blessed Thanksgiving, enjoy time with family and friends. Good thoughts to all.
Bentcorner
QUOTE (christine_dixon @ Nov 21 2007, 10:04 AM) *
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 21 2007, 10:03 AM) *
QUOTE (hagopinion @ Nov 21 2007, 09:57 AM) *
Here is the victim's criminal record:

BURGLARY-FOURTH DEGREE 09/07/2006
POSSESSION-MARIHUANA 07/21/2006
ASSAULT-SEC DEGREE 11/01/2006
RESIST/INTERFERE With ARREST 11/01/2006
ASSAULT-SEC DEGREE 02/07/2007
OBSTRUCTING & HINDERING 02/07/2007
FAIL OBEY RENBLE/LAWFL 02/07/2007
DISORDERLY CONDUCT 02/07/2007

Sounds to me that he deserved to die!!!!!


Where did you find his criminal record?


coma the fabulous net sleuth posted it earlier in this thread.


Same question. Where did coma find it?
Idiot
I'm curious as to whether the gun was used in drive-stun mode or if the darts were fired. If it was stun mode then the cop had to be in arms-length of the victim. Is that the best way to get someone to show their hands?
Bentcorner
Where did he it say he was convicted off all those offenses? That's what I'm getting at. The published news accounts only say that he was on probation for an earlier conviction for resisting arrest. It didn't say that he had been convicted for any of the crimes that coma posted. This is why it's good to get the facts when it comes to something like this.
christine_dixon
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 21 2007, 10:22 AM) *
Where did he it say he was convicted off all those offenses? That's what I'm getting at. The published news accounts only say that he was on probation for an earlier conviction for resisting arrest. It didn't say that he had been convicted for any of the crimes that coma posted. This is why it's good to get the facts when it comes to something like this.


EXACTLY. facts.
Bentcorner
QUOTE (christine_dixon @ Nov 21 2007, 10:24 AM) *
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 21 2007, 10:22 AM) *
Where did he it say he was convicted off all those offenses? That's what I'm getting at. The published news accounts only say that he was on probation for an earlier conviction for resisting arrest. It didn't say that he had been convicted for any of the crimes that coma posted. This is why it's good to get the facts when it comes to something like this.


EXACTLY. facts.


So.......

How many of those charges had he been convicted of?
christine_dixon
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 21 2007, 10:30 AM) *
QUOTE (christine_dixon @ Nov 21 2007, 10:24 AM) *
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 21 2007, 10:22 AM) *
Where did he it say he was convicted off all those offenses? That's what I'm getting at. The published news accounts only say that he was on probation for an earlier conviction for resisting arrest. It didn't say that he had been convicted for any of the crimes that coma posted. This is why it's good to get the facts when it comes to something like this.


EXACTLY. facts.


So.......

How many of those charges had he been convicted of?


i havent the slightest.. i'm not even sure where coma pulled that record from... most md records can be found here.
sweetliberty2u
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 21 2007, 10:13 AM) *
Where did you find his criminal record?


There is a site, Where you can look up anyone criminal records.
All you have to do is type in the First and Last name, known in about their DOB.

It's really not that hard to get that kind of information.Since it's public records.
You can also go to the Court House and get them records.They even have a computer
you can use. Yes, I done that many of times. When I was a manger of a rental property, years ago.

Would you like me to post the link? I will have to look for it under my other account.
Edited to Add: Thanks CD, save me the troubles. That's the site I was talking about. smile.gif

My main concern is how this person died. And whether or not them Taser are safe to use.
After all, the Police will use them on anyone. Doesn't matter what color you are.
I seen on T.V. news where they used it on some woman. She was white.

So No I don't think it's a race issue. Only some people are going to make it a race issue. As always rolleyes.gif
samy0
http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inqui...quiry-index.jsp

c'mon! Who doesn't know about this!

Bent- Congratulations on your clean record laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif not even a traffic ticket. impressive. keep walking the straight and narrow
Bentcorner
QUOTE (samy0 @ Nov 21 2007, 10:56 AM) *


Does it show that he was convicted of any of these offenses?
samy0
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 21 2007, 10:59 AM) *
QUOTE (samy0 @ Nov 21 2007, 10:56 AM) *


Does it show that he was convicted of any of these offenses?



Guilty of resisting arrest 6 mths. probation. That sounds familiar doesnt it???

The rest of the charges were either placed on stet docket, niolle prosequi, or not guilty. the fact that he's been arrested 6 times in the past 2 years should tell you something!!!

It doesn't matter if your'e black, white, red or yellow. If you consistently put yourself in a position to be around trouble and lawbreakers eventually you'll get swept up in it one way or another.
hagopinion
QUOTE (samy0 @ Nov 21 2007, 11:03 AM) *
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 21 2007, 10:59 AM) *
QUOTE (samy0 @ Nov 21 2007, 10:56 AM) *


Does it show that he was convicted of any of these offenses?



Guilty of resisting arrest 6 mths. probation. That sounds familiar doesnt it???

The rest of the charges were either placed on stet docket, niolle prosequi, or not guilty. the fact that he's been arrested 6 times in the past 2 years should tell you something!!!



YEA IT TELLS ME THAT HE DESERVED TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, Samy don't forget to make your picks early.
samy0
QUOTE (hagopinion @ Nov 21 2007, 11:05 AM) *
QUOTE (samy0 @ Nov 21 2007, 11:03 AM) *
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Nov 21 2007, 10:59 AM) *
QUOTE (samy0 @ Nov 21 2007, 10:56 AM) *


Does it show that he was convicted of any of these offenses?



Guilty of resisting arrest 6 mths. probation. That sounds familiar doesnt it???

The rest of the charges were either placed on stet docket, niolle prosequi, or not guilty. the fact that he's been arrested 6 times in the past 2 years should tell you something!!!



YEA IT TELLS ME THAT HE DESERVED TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, Samy don't forget to make your picks early.


Done deal! I am getting tired of losing every week! this is my week
txexpatriot
QUOTE (hagopinion @ Nov 21 2007, 09:57 AM) *
Here is the victim's criminal record:

BURGLARY-FOURTH DEGREE 09/07/2006
POSSESSION-MARIHUANA 07/21/2006
ASSAULT-SEC DEGREE 11/01/2006
RESIST/INTERFERE With ARREST 11/01/2006
ASSAULT-SEC DEGREE 02/07/2007
OBSTRUCTING & HINDERING 02/07/2007
FAIL OBEY RENBLE/LAWFL 02/07/2007
DISORDERLY CONDUCT 02/07/2007

Sounds to me that he deserved to die!!!!!


Y'all are gonna probably hate me, but I have to say something here: How many of you have 4 arrests(multiple charges but 4 arrest dates) in a 2yr span since you turned 18? And what did he do b-4 he was a legal adult? I realize those records are sealed, but is he one of those persons who is 'known' to the police?

I admit I think there are alot of questions to be answered on this matter.

Tasers--they seem to be used alot these days. Most people do not die from them from what I have seen on the medical side unless there is an UNDERLYING HEART CONDITION--such as ones brought on by cocaine..which does alot of damage to the heart.

He was shocked twice. Okay, so if he didn't stop after the first one--he was not dead then, was he? 23 seconds later he had to be hit again. Was he by now trying to attack the cop or was he still just refusing to put his hands up? Even the deaf can figure out to put their hands up as they look around and the other three had their's up. And 2ndly, he has been arrested before and knows the drill.

Anyway, JMO but it seems there is too little facts known at this time to make a proper assessment of this incident.

And race should be the last item looked at, not the first. Think Jena 6, Duke Rape Case, OJ, Shawna Brawley where race became the sole issue rather than the facts...
Bentcorner
QUOTE (samy0)
The rest of the charges were either placed on stet docket, niolle prosequi, or not guilty. the fact that he's been arrested 6 times in the past 2 years should tell you something!!!
Yes, that he was only convicted once. That he had never been conviced of any of the other crimes that he was arrested for. People are innocent until proven guilty.

QUOTE (samy0)
It doesn't matter if your'e black, white, red or yellow. If you consistently put yourself in a position to be around trouble and lawbreakers eventually you'll get swept up in it one way or another.
Unfortunately, some people in law enforcement don't always treat everyone equally.
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