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Idiot
Chances are, unless you live in Chicago or someplace outside the United States you haven't. But before this presidential election is over you will probably know as much about him as you do Paula Jones and John Kerry's purple hearts.

Antoin "Tony" Rezko, born in Aleppo, Syria, is a real estate developer in Chicago, Illinois who is currently facing federal charges of attempted extortion, money laundering, and fraud. His trial begins next Monday. This is the latest Chicago Tribune story on the upcoming trial. After reading this article you may wonder what this has to do with the presidential race. It doesn't mention any of the current candidates so what's the problem?

Now read this story about Tony Rezko in today's British Times online. The word Obama appears in this story no less than 28 times.


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Mansion 'mistake' piles the pressure on Barack Obama

A British-Iraqi billionaire lent millions of dollars to Barack Obama's fundraiser just weeks before an imprudent land deal that has returned to haunt the presidential contender, an investigation by The Times discloses.


The money transfer raises the question of whether funds from Nadhmi Auchi, one of Britain’s wealthiest men, helped Mr Obama buy his mock Georgian mansion in Chicago.

A company related to Mr Auchi, who has a conviction for corruption in France, registered the loan to Mr Obama's bagman Antoin "Tony" Rezko on May 23 2005. Mr Auchi says the loan, through the Panamanian company Fintrade Services SA, was for $3.5 million.

Three weeks later, Mr Obama bought a house on the city's South Side while Mr Rezko's wife bought the garden plot next door from the same seller on the same day, June 15.

Mr Obama says he never used Mrs Rezko's still-empty lot, which could only be accessed through his property. But he admits he paid his gardener to mow the lawn.

Mrs Rezko, whose husband was widely known to be under investigation at the time, went on to sell a 10-foot strip of her property to Mr Obama seven months later so he could enjoy a bigger garden.

Mr Obama now admits his involvement in this land deal was a “boneheaded mistake”.

Mrs Rezko’s purchase and sale of the land to Mr Obama raises many unanswered questions.

It is unclear how Mrs Rezko could have afforded the downpayment of $125,000 and a $500,000 mortgage for the original $625,000 purchase of the garden plot at 5050 South Greenwood Ave.

In a sworn statement a year later, Mrs Rezko said she got by on a salary of $37,000 and had $35,000 assets. Mr Rezko told a court he had "no income, negative cash flow, no liquid assets, no unencumbered assets [and] is significantly in arrears on many of his obligations."

Mrs Rezko, whose husband goes on trial on unrelated corruption charges in Chicago on March 3, refused to answer questions about the case when she spoke by telephone to The Times.

Asked if she used money from her husband to buy the land next to Mr Obama's house, she said: "I can't answer these questions, I'm sorry."

Asked how long she and her husband had known Mr Auchi, she replied: "I will not be able to answer this question."

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The house-and-garden deal raised questions about whether Mr Rezko, a property developer and fast-food restauranteur, made it possible for the Obamas to purchase a mansion they could otherwise not afford.

Mrs Rezko paid the asking price for the garden but the Obamas bought the house for $1.65 million, - $300,000 less than the asking price. The sellers deny they offered the Obamas a discount on the house because the garden had fetched full price from Mrs Rezko.

Mr Rezko has since been indicted for allegedly scheming to pressure companies seeking business with the state of Illinois for kickbacks and contributions to the governor Rod Blagojevich's campaign. He goes on trial on March 3.

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Mr Obama insists he never used his office to do favours for Mr Rezko but admits that, as an Illinois state senator, he once wrote letters to housing officials urging them to provide money in support of a proposed apartment building for elderly people which Mr Rezko wanted to build.

Mr Obama has publicly sought to atone for his closeness to Mr Rezko, paying $150,000 to charity to distance himself from a man accused of political corruption.

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Prosecutors say that, after Mr Auchi was unable to enter the United States in 2005, Mr Rezko approached the US State Department to get him a visa and apparently asked "certain Illinois government officials to do the same." Mr Obama denies he was approached. Mr Auchi's lawyer has emphasised to The Times that it would be entirely false to imply that money had been lent by GMH to Mr Rezko in return for Mr Rezko seeking to assist Mr Auchi to obtain a visa. The two men's relationship, the lawyer stressed, was a business one.



I'm looking forward to this trial. Patrick Fitzgerald is the prosecutor. The Dems really loved him when he was going after Libby. Let's see how much they like him after this trial. I'll keep my eye on the international media for updates.


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SMan
What was wrong with your first thread on this guy and Obama?


http://www.herald-mail.com/forums/index.ph...66&hl=rezko
Idiot
QUOTE (SMan @ Feb 26 2008, 05:23 PM) *
What was wrong with your first thread on this guy and Obama?


http://www.herald-mail.com/forums/index.ph...66&hl=rezko



laugh.gif To be honest, I forgot I even started one. That's what happens when you get old. laugh.gif
Idiot
drip... drip... drip...


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Did Rezko find jobs for Obama staffers?

March 6, 2008

Did Barack Obama use indicted campaign fund-raiser Tony Rezko as a conduit to get jobs for people in Gov. Blagojevich's administration?

The question arises from a list of 39 people Rezko's lawyers said in a court filing he urged Blagojevich to give state jobs.

Among those on the list were two people who appear to have Obama links and a third who's now an Obama presidential campaign staffer.

But did the names come from Obama? His campaign staff's short answer: Don't know -- but it's possible.

"We do not know how decisions were made to fill specific state positions, and we have no records of any individual recommendations we were asked to make or made," says Obama spokesman Bill Burton "But we do know that Tony Rezko, among others, was helping to gather names for the positions coming open with a new administration, and, if it is established any names came through our office, we would have no reason to doubt it."



That didn't take long, the trial just started this week and we already have the first Obama link. I know what you're going to say SMan. So what? What difference does it make? Maybe none to most people, but I'll bet it makes a lot of difference to superdelegates.

This trial couldn't have started at a worse time for Obama. If I was the conspiracy theory type I'd almost think it was planned that way. laugh.gif
millennium
QUOTE (Idiot @ Mar 8 2008, 08:12 AM) *
... but I'll bet it makes a lot of difference to superdelegates.



or it may make a difference to pledged delegates.

Read the story link on what pledged actually means.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8583.html
SMan
Holy smokes! Millennium is back. Long time, no see.smile.gif
millennium
QUOTE (SMan @ Mar 8 2008, 03:18 PM) *
Holy smokes! Millennium is back. Long time, no see.smile.gif


Politics brings out the strange bedfellows. wink.gif
Idiot
QUOTE (millennium @ Mar 8 2008, 02:15 PM) *
QUOTE (Idiot @ Mar 8 2008, 08:12 AM) *
... but I'll bet it makes a lot of difference to superdelegates.



or it may make a difference to pledged delegates.

Read the story link on what pledged actually means.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8583.html



Thanks for the link mil. Very interesting. I thought that they had to stick with who the voters picked for the first ballot and then could switch. I'm hoping and praying for a food fight at the convention, laugh.gif


Btw, welcome back.

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Idiot
QUOTE (Bentcorner @ Mar 8 2008, 05:23 PM) *
QUOTE (Idiot @ Mar 8 2008, 04:58 PM) *
I thought that they had to stick with who the voters picked for the first ballot and then could switch. I'm hoping and praying for a food fight at the convention


I think its different for each state. Some states have laws on the books making it a criminal act if an elected delegates casts his or her vote for someone other then who they were elected to vote for. This came up during the Bush vs. Gore controversy.



That was a general election. This is a party primary.
Patton
QUOTE (millennium @ Mar 8 2008, 02:20 PM) *
QUOTE (SMan @ Mar 8 2008, 03:18 PM) *
Holy smokes! Millennium is back. Long time, no see.smile.gif


Politics brings out the strange bedfellows. wink.gif


Ok, welcome back Mil, tell me how wonderful your canidate is, I can't stand the suspense any more. I've been counting the moments until you return, and grace us with your political prowess. (Bent, before you say anything, mil and I have an understanding. )
Idiot
Cocktails anyone?


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"We've made our best effort to run the most ethical campaign possible in all ways and release donations when appropriate," Obama's press secretary, Bill Burton, said Friday.

Burton said Obama can only estimate how much money Rezko has raised for him. Obama's staff, he said, only knows of one fund-raiser Rezko hosted for Obama -- a June 27, 2003, cocktail party at Rezko's mansion.

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The cocktail party Rezko hosted in 2003 came at a critical time for Obama. He and Rezko timed it to help Obama show he had enough money to compete in the Democratic primary for U.S. Senate against millionaire Blair Hull and state Comptroller Dan Hynes.

"This was discussed a lot. They wanted to have a good showing," said a source familiar with the fund-raiser, speaking on condition of anonymity.

"Tony was one of the biggest fund-raisers."

At the time of the party, the state was in the process of foreclosing on a low-income apartment building Rezko's company rehabbed in Obama's state Senate district -- a rehab project on which Obama's law firm worked. Rezko had also abandoned many other low-income apartments, leaving numerous vacant units in need of major repairs.

Rezko was indicted in October 2006 in unrelated fraud schemes.

Between 75 and 80 people attended Rezko's cocktail party, according to Burton, but he said the campaign has no list of the guests.

More than half a dozen people who were there said between 100 and 150 guests were treated to an open bar and food served by Jewell Events Catering, run by renowned Chicago caterer George Jewell. Valets parked cars for the guests, who each were asked to donate at least $1,000.

Rezko picked up the tab. The exact cost of the party has never been disclosed to the Federal Election Commission, which allows hosts to pay up to $2,000 for fund-raisers held in their homes and not report the expense. If a party costs more than $2,000, the candidate must tell the FEC about it.

Burton said, based on a conversation a former Obama staff member had with Rezko, that the party didn't cost more than $2,000.

Three days after the cocktail party, Obama got donations from several Rezko associates, Obama's campaign records show.

The donor list includes six people involved in the two federal indictments of Rezko. Obama earlier this month said he is donating to charity contributions totaling $22,000 from three of those people. Last year, he donated $11,500 in contributions from Rezko.


Less than two thousand dollars? Are you kidding me? We had about 100 guests at our wedding reception 23 years ago. The food and liquor alone cost $12,500. There was no valet parking.

For my next party I think I'll call this George Jewell guy. At those rates I could afford to fly his entire staff in for the day.

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Idiot
The MSM is starting to pick this story up. McLaughlin Group does Rezko.

I'll bet Clinton has made sure that every single super delegate has seen this video. laugh.gif
BMIC
Shhhh... keep it down. Wait until he gets the nomination. Then we'll have plenty of time to explore all of these issues.
Udmas
Exactly, this is not the time for this crap to come out, six more months would do fine. laugh.gif

Nice to see you back B.
Idiot
QUOTE (BMIC @ Mar 14 2008, 02:51 PM) *
Shhhh... keep it down. Wait until he gets the nomination. Then we'll have plenty of time to explore all of these issues.



So, who do you think McCain has the best chance against?
Idiot
SMan said...


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A one time $200 campaign contribution and some time together on a philanthropic orgainzation's board seems pretty thin for such a sensationalistic thread title. At least this is starting to show me you're non-partisan with your conspiracy theories.



What about $250,000 over several years involving self-described "repeated lapses of judgment"?



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Obama says Rezko played a bigger fundraising role

By David Jackson | Tribune reporter
5:13 PM CDT, March 14, 2008

Indicted Chicago businessman Antoin "Tony" Rezko was a more significant fundraiser for presidential candidate Barack Obama's earlier political campaigns than previously known. Rezko raised as much as $250,000 for the first three offices Obama sought, the senator told the Tribune on Friday.

Obama also said for the first time that his private real estate transactions with Rezko involved repeated lapses of judgment. The mistake, Obama said, was not simply that Rezko was under grand jury investigation at the time of their 2005 and 2006 dealings. "The mistake was he had been a contributor and somebody involved in politics," he said.



Sounds like there may be something coming out in the trial on Monday and he's trying to get out in front of it. Wright this week, Rezko next week, who knows what the week after.

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millennium
QUOTE (Idiot @ Mar 12 2008, 09:00 PM) *
I'll bet Clinton has made sure that every single super delegate has seen this video. laugh.gif


I'll bet Obama has made sure that every superdelegate knows that Denny Hastert's old seat went to Democrat Bill Foster in a special election held last Saturday March 8. Obama ran an ad for Foster talking about change.

I thought for sure you would have analyzed the meaning of that one.

I'm having my doubts that the Rezko trial is going to hurt Obama with regard to the Democratic nomination.

And if there are anymore Bear Stearns type days ahead the Republican who states he doesn't know anything about the economy is going to lose.

Idiot - you may want to feel uneasy again. It could happen. blink.gif
Idiot
QUOTE (millennium @ Mar 15 2008, 12:24 AM) *
QUOTE (Idiot @ Mar 12 2008, 09:00 PM) *
I'll bet Clinton has made sure that every single super delegate has seen this video. laugh.gif


I'll bet Obama has made sure that every superdelegate knows that Denny Hastert's old seat went to Democrat Bill Foster in a special election held last Saturday March 8. Obama ran an ad for Foster talking about change.

I thought for sure you would have analyzed the meaning of that one.




What do I look like, the liberal media? laugh.gif
Idiot
QUOTE (millennium @ Mar 15 2008, 12:24 AM) *
I'm having my doubts that the Rezko trial is going to hurt Obama with regard to the Democratic nomination.

And if there are anymore Bear Stearns type days ahead the Republican who states he doesn't know anything about the economy is going to lose.

Idiot - you may want to feel uneasy again. It could happen. blink.gif



After I've had a chance to consider it a little longer, it's possible that BO was simply taking advantage of the timing to release the Rezko contribution info. The media was distracted with Wright and it was a Friday. I couldn't find any big news stories on it today.

So, what makes you think Obama knows anything about the economy? Or do you?

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BMIC
QUOTE (Idiot @ Mar 14 2008, 06:05 PM) *
So, who do you think McCain has the best chance against?
Rhetorical question?

Hillary should be under prosecution currently but we all know that's never gonna happen. So McCain's best hope is that they choose Obama. In which case BO's lack of experience and ties to racist hate-mongers, together with McCain's liberal appeal should give him a very good, fighting chance.

Folks like me will hold our noses and vote for McPain solely because the alternative is completely unacceptable. But I predict that lots of Dems will cross over.
Idiot
QUOTE (BMIC @ Mar 15 2008, 11:04 AM) *
QUOTE (Idiot @ Mar 14 2008, 06:05 PM) *
So, who do you think McCain has the best chance against?
Rhetorical question?

Hillary should be under prosecution currently but we all know that's never gonna happen. So McCain's best hope is that they choose Obama. In which case BO's lack of experience and ties to racist hate-mongers, together with McCain's liberal appeal should give him a very good, fighting chance.

Folks like me will hold our noses and vote for McPain solely because the alternative is completely unacceptable. But I predict that lots of Dems will cross over.



Not rhetorical, genuine curiosity. I also think he has the best chance against Obama but I'm strongly in the ABO (Anybody But Obama) camp and on the off chance that McCain keels over in October I don't want to see him win by default. I really don't see a great deal of difference between McCain and Clinton on the issues that I care about.

My overall choice was Ron Paul and I had intended to vote for him regardless but I've recently reconsidered. I also like Bill Richardson but obviously the Democrats don't. I think you're right, a lot of Dems and independents will vote for McCain, especially now that the race has gotten so ugly.
millennium
QUOTE (Idiot @ Mar 15 2008, 10:03 AM) *
So, what makes you think Obama knows anything about the economy? Or do you?

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What does the average voter know about the economy except the answer to the question - Are you better off today than you were four years ago? Or eight years ago?
Idiot
QUOTE (millennium @ Mar 15 2008, 11:44 AM) *
QUOTE (Idiot @ Mar 15 2008, 10:03 AM) *
So, what makes you think Obama knows anything about the economy? Or do you?

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What does the average voter know about the economy except the answer to the question - Are you better off today than you were four years ago? Or eight years ago?


Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I was asking if you thought Obama knows anything about economics.
millennium
QUOTE (Idiot @ Mar 15 2008, 11:53 AM) *
Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I was asking if you thought Obama knows anything about economics.


So far, just how to get a good deal on a house!
Idiot
QUOTE (millennium @ Mar 15 2008, 12:06 PM) *
QUOTE (Idiot @ Mar 15 2008, 11:53 AM) *
Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. I was asking if you thought Obama knows anything about economics.


So far, just how to get a good deal on a house!



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Idiot
QUOTE (Idiot @ Mar 15 2008, 11:53 AM) *
What does the average voter know about the economy except the answer to the question - Are you better off today than you were four years ago? Or eight years ago?




Funny you should bring that up.






This is the best argument for Clinton I've seen yet. So why are so many Democrats voting for Obama?

Bush on the other hand.... Like father, like son. laugh.gif
BMIC
QUOTE (millennium @ Mar 15 2008, 12:44 PM) *
What does the average voter know about the economy except the answer to the question - Are you better off today than you were four years ago? Or eight years ago?
Considering that most people these days don't even bother trying to prepare and stick to a family budget, I dare say they don't even know the answer to THAT question with any accuracy.

Public opinion on the economy is almost exclusively shaped by the Mainstream Media. Most people believe whatever MSNBCNNABCBS tells them they should believe. Thus Idiot's argument is not an argument for Clinton, but a demonstration of the Clintoons' practically hypnotic control of the Mainstream Media.
Patton
Give me the Fair and Balanced Reporting of Fox, please.
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