Not only is this guy get my vote for A$$hat of the week he also gets my vote for Hypocrite of the week

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/11/spitzer/index.html

You are right. I think everyone will be calling for his head by the end of the day. They are speculating that he will announce his resignation today. What a tool!!!

Personally, I don't think prostitution should be illegal but he obviously should resign. These people who get caught in something like this need to quit dragging their wives out with them, it's sickening. I felt so sorry for her.

Not to mention someone could have blackmailed him over this. What if one of these hookers or gangsters held this over his head and he used his position
to somehow help them. It might sound far fetched but it is possible. He put the office in jeopardy and should be proecuted

On a side note- Who do you feel worse for? This guys wife or Mcgreevy's wife. I feel for both but I think having your man tell you he's leaving for a guy
might be a real kick in the ego

This part is most interesting to me.



Damn, those 7 diamond girls better be hott for 5 large.

For 5K they better clean my house and do my laundry when I am done!

here we go again... i don't know why it shocks anyone anymore... i agree with the above statements that he could have had the decency to give his family the heads up before the whole thing blew... i think it shows a lack of concern for his job to get mixed up in something so frowned upon like this... if that's what you wanna do with your time, retire rich, or get you to a "sopranos" themed reality show...

In a fair world, he would go to prison with the people he put in prison.

No one thinks this has any relation to the DC Madame bust where no names were released?

How did he afford $4500 per hour plus all the other expenses to get her there, seriously?

"GOP leader threatens to push for N.Y. governor's impeachment if he doesn't resign"

stick a fork in him!!

I found this interesting. This is your next governor of New York

David A. Paterson was elected New York’s lieutenant governor on November 7, 2006.

Elected to represent Harlem in the New York State Senate in 1985, David Paterson has demanded and achieved change at every level, not simply by what he stands for but by who he is.

In 2002, David Paterson was elected minority leader of the New York State Senate, the first non-white legislative leader in New York’s history. In 2004 in Boston, he became the first visually impaired person to address a Democratic National Convention. And 2006 saw Mr. Paterson make history again by being elected New York’s first African-American lieutenant governor.

Sounds like a pretty inspiring guy.

Agree: It is so sad when they drag their spouse out as they stand up at the microphone behind the State seal. Some even drag their kids out. I feel no matter what, it is tragic for the family. Any hidden behavior while in a sensitive job poses a risk for blackmail or undo influence...................I wonder, like SamyO posted, if he put his office in jeopardy by being a possible target.

Being from Nevada, I also do not see prostitution, if managed w/ appropriate safeguards & regulation, as having to be illegal. Am not advocating it at all, or feigning to understand it. (Just thinking: Nevada'a Bunny Ranch.)
Spitzer has many issues on the burners. He is one hot mess.

Lordy, putting your office, perhaps your State govt, at risk by having a potential secret worth black-mail, is a needless risk. Then making a mockery of your family destroys a lot of credibility.............Selfish & stupid are too small of words.

Well, Sammy - looks like you called it...

The fork is stuck

Idiot......you mentioned that you don't think prostitution should be illegal; in theory, I agree with you; but unfortunately, if it were legalized, it would have to be regulated just like any other business and also taxed. Because of std's that are caused by viruses, this would be a nightmare for the health dept., which undoubtedly would have to be involved. Also...just think about the disputes involving where and when this type of business could operate....especially in Montgomery County and a few other parts of the Peoples' Republic of Maryland!

It does, indeed, look as if this issue was just a platform for a liar to gain control of a public office. What a jerk.

Well it ain't going away, so why not regulate it?

Sounds like the time to put up the link to Nevada's legal brothel, the Bunny Ranch. I won't post it but it is easily googled.
It is an isolated ranch that is legal, regulated, and a fixture in Nevada's history.

Here Here! I think there's a lot of stuff that should be legalized & regulated. If prostitution would be legalized - I bet there would actually be less participants. And think of the boost in the economy if they had to pay taxes on that! Not to mention the crime rate would significantly decrease - especially in some of the bigger metropolitain cities... It's a win-win!

I was listening to everyone talk about Spitzer on the radio this morning. They were comparing him to Clinton and McGreevey. They brought up the topis of these poor woman that have to stand next to there husbands while they tell the entire free world of there infedelity. I'm sorry if I were any of those woman, I would say listen - was I there while you were (having sex w/ prostitutes, Monica Lewinsky, Jennifer Flowers or having sex woth men in the back of a tractor trailor?) The answer to that would be NO! Then I have no reason to stand next to your sorry ass while you aplogize for something that makes you a distgusting human being! I don't like Clinton but at least he didn't pay for his woman like Spitzer or cheat with men like McGreevey. He just had a plain old run of the mill sorted affair - LOL! (that was a joke).

I just needed to vent about this - thanks for listening!

Maybe that's what Hagerstown town needs? One of big officials to get caught with his pants down!

These women will stand behind their ridiculously perverted wimps of male flesh they call husbands cause they're likin' the benes that comes along with the political power. I am sure that if they have any sense to them at all - they "know" what's goin' on all these years. And, no doubt have boy (or girl for that matter) toys in their closets, too. Greed, money & power can damage anyone. If they truly had any respect for themselvels - they would do exactly as you say you would. But - in fear of losing what they have "acquired" over the years - they stand by their "man"...

You mean elect a "prostitution commissioner"?

Are you assuming, Redjo, that marriage is ALWAYS about love? Traditionally, marriage has, for thousands of years, been about politics....family politics, religious politics, community politics, whatever applied in the particular situation. This idea that marriage is about love is actually modern, and not everyone has caught on yet.

Love? No, not at all. What I am saying is all the people who feel so sorry for these women need to realize what you just said. They are in it for all the OTHER reasons mentioned above. So, you reap what you sow. And, I am sure after the press conference is over - they each go back into their own little seperate worlds - each of them not sorrowful for what they did to their "marriage" but for what it will do to their "lifestyle" that they have become so accustomed.

If they were gonna do it - they'd do it. IF I had a daughter who turned to drugs & prostitution - as I am sure there are many of a parent out there - I would think although I would not agree with their choice of profession - I would much rather them be doing something legal - deeming it a bit more safe then being on the streets at night hiding from a pimp or getting picked up by a dirty cop with hidden adgendas...

No, of course not. I wouldn't want my daughter/mother/sister to be a stripper either, but it's a perfectly legal occupation.

I agree with Idiot on this. Even though it's illegal, prostitution is not going to go away. Why not legalize it, tax it, and regulate it. Thereby making it safer by forcing testing for STDs.

We had an interesting discussion before on prostitution. The thread was sparked by a picture of the cops tackling a cross-dressing john during a sting operation.

http://www.herald-mail.com/forums/index.ph...0&start=120

Same with drugs?

No, not all drugs. The only drug I would say to legalize would be marijuana: you can't overdose on it, nobody ever died from smoking it (assuming no other substances were ingested), and it's no more harmful than cigarettes or alcohol. However, I think it should be treated the same way alcohol is treated - you can't go out on lunch breaks and get high or drive around like that.

Besides, the prisons in this country are overcrowded as it is. Instead of wasting taxpayer's money on housing these non violent "criminals," we should make money off of it by taxing it.

Phish - I think I like you...

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Strippers and prostitutes are the same thing. There's no difference.
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No they're not. At least not ALL of them.

Don't ask me how I know...but I do.

While I generally agree with the basis of PHISH's post, I have serious questions about this theory that the government should regulate, tax, and rake in easy bucks on drugs/prostitution. Who is going to pay for this regulation and enforce it when, inevitably, some folks continue their behavior outside of the regulations? I agree the current system is broken, but it's not as easy as legalization=goverment profit.

And I dispute, as I did in the other thread, that legalizing prostitution lowers crime. It failed in Amsterdam, the bastion of legal drugs and prostitution.


Amsterdam closes one-third of prostitution windows.

From the article:

As far as the legalization of drugs, I would think it would be regulated the same way tobacco and alcohol are regulated. Technically, you can grow your own tobacco, or brew your own beer, but how many people do this? As with cigarettes and alcohol, there would be age restrictions. I don't think it would be hard to regulate when you already have similar laws in place for other legalized drugs (i.e., tobacco).

When it comes to prostitution, I think that's a little harder to tackle, but don't think it's outside the realm of possibility. Actually, the only difference I would see from running any other business, would be that regular check-ups would have to be enforced. However, I don't see that as much different than running random drug testing on employees, as many companies already do. The only difference is that it wouldn't be random - it would be required on a regular basis.

I think if we legalized marijuana it would be like everyones 21st birthday. Instead of going out and getting drunk they would be out buying "pot". The excitement of it would eventually wear off, but that would make all that much easier for OUR children to get a hold of it. I have to disagree with Phish who said it is just as safe as cigarettes or drinking. I smoke cigarettes and drink occassionally - but there is a reason I gave up smoking pot. You literally become "burnt". I know people in their 30's that can not function on a daily basis without smoking everyday. Sorry, i have kids - so the whole drug leagalization thing doesn't really fly with me.

So then I assume you'd be OK if they made it illegal to buy/consume cigarettes and/or alcohol, since those can be equally, if not more harmful.

If that is what the government decided to do what choice would I have. My point was more toward kids. I am an adult and can make informed decisions. Yes, i know the effects of drugs, alcohol and tobacco. I choose not to do drugs. I choose to smoke and drink occassionally. Teenagers don't think the same way. If Marijuana is legalized I think teens would be more likely to do it if they think it's legal - b/c ya know legal does = safe. I also think that for some this is a gateway drug and it COULD lead to other things. Don't misundertand what I'm saying, I smoked my fair share when I was younger - but I stopped.

Neither can I - trust me. There is a big difference between drinking half a pot of coffee and smoking a blunt to start your day. (thought this smiley looked a little stoned) ha ha

Hence the reason it would only be legal for those 18 years of age and older.



This is a direct contradiction. Cigarettes and alcohol are both drugs. The only difference is that they're legal.



Right, because even though it's illegal for minors to drink, they don't do that either.



Again, this is a contradiction, given the fact that you yourself admitted to smoking it, but yet it hasn't lead you down the path of hard core drug use (at least not that I know of). Saying that marijuana is a gateway drug is a myth and also very hard to prove. However, if you have some facts to back it up, I would be interested in seeing them.

I am not contradicting myself alcohol and tobacco are not drugs. I smoked when I was younger - meaning before 21. BEFORE i was able to make an informed decision. And yes, i was able to stop smoking pot and not try other drugs. I think you can drink and smoke cigarettes but not abuse it.

Again you are taking what i am saying completely out of context. I am saying legalization would make it easier for teens to obtain - with or without age restrictions. They would get it exactly the same way they cigarettes and alcohol, by having an older friend or brother or sister buy it for them. I think it would be very dangerous for an 18 year old to walk into Sheetz and buy a carton Marijuana Lights.

FOR SOME i did not say everyone - it is a gateway drug. kids start lookign for a better high so they move on to the bigger party drugs.

I'm sorry Phish - but i think on this topic we are going to have to agree to disagree.

You're right. We're going to have to agree to disagree.

I'll hafta go w/ Phish on this one.. Google search - ATF - Alcohol, Tabacco & Firearms...

Consider it a drug if you want to. I think you can find articles on both sides of the topic. but, it is not considered a drug in the same capacity as Marijuana.

This really isn't a matter of opinion. It's a matter of fact.

Just upon a quick google search...

Source #1


Source #2

Missing my point again PHISH. The Government must have some reasoning behind keeping Marijuana illiegal. My point being there are a lot of differences between legal and illegal.

another thread bites the dust.

Come on, it's not that far off topic.

My mother, god rest her soul, passed away last year. If I discovered that my wife was a prostitute I'd divorce her but I wouldn't want her to go to jail. If my daughter or one of my sisters were prostitutes I'd try to help them financially, if that's why they were doing it, to find another profession. If they insisted that it's what they wanted to do I would still love them and not want them to have to go to jail either.

Wrong.

Also wrong.

wow, what a great thread! ::stuffs handful of popcorn into mouth:: i just got here. not too late to jump in?

FWIW, I also believe that: ( A ) prostitution should be legal; and ( B ) if alcohol and cigarettes are legal (and i think that yes, they ARE indeed drugs), then marijuana should be legal too.

I've never heard of anyone smoking too much pot, then beating up their wife. And there's so much tax revenue to be made from sales of pot and sales in the sex trade. On the Sundance Channel they just had a six-part miniseries "Pleasure for Sale" that followed around several sex workers at Pahrump NV's "Chicken Ranch". It was neat to see that certain aspects of their jobs are mundane, just like any job. :-) And it is a business, so they run it professionally, which means they work hard to guard against disease (each girl checks out each guy's junk under a special light before the deed is done, and the women also go to a local doctor for examinations once a week). This might sound lame, but I thought it was sweet to see that many of the prostitutes take personal pride in what they do, giving pleasure to lonely men, teaching timid men new techniques, giving inexperienced men new self-confidence so they might feel better about themselves. Providing good customer service, basically. (yeah, I know. ) Men wanna pay a girl to get laid, they're gonna pay a girl whether it's legal or not. Legalizing it just seems like an easy way to keep non-violent people out of already overcrowded prisons, and keep the seriously dangerous people in for a larger portion of their original sentences...

Oh, and as far as Spitzer's wife standing at his side? Ugh, I'd rather kill myself than be in her shoes. Absolutely humiliating. Though I'd be surprised if she didn't at least suspect something was up.

Bent- ALL strippers are not prostitutes. You have stated this before in another thread and youre still wrong. you have to work on your stripper/hooker anger issues

Beaver- I hope you have a plan B for your kids because your do as I say and not as I do or did policy will not work forever. Alcohol. tobacco, and pot are ALL drugs! I always found it very hypocritical for someone to lecture young people on the ills of marijuana while they were drinking a gin and tonic and smoking a marlboro.

As far as being a gateway drug this is the same tired logic that comes up everytime someone runs out of logical responses about marijuana being no different than alcohol (except the legality). I would assume if you get some farmboy tanked on cheap wine he might decide to try some other drug where he wouldn't if he were sober. So is alcohol a "gateway" drug?

Everything has risks! Its all about personal responsibility. People can sniff sharpies and paint and get high. Do we ban sharpies and paint?

I'm not so sure spitzer needs to be in a 12 step program. I am not sure he is a sex addict. maybe his wife wasn't showing him any attention. the only thing he is really guilty of so far (besides legalities) is pi$$ poor decision making. This guy made some terrible choices but i don't want to hear any BS about how he has an addiction and thats why this happened. That is TOO convenient in todays society