WTF?

So people lose their jobs and they're not supposed to have any "anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment".

Thats right they're just supposed to wait for the government to step in and make everything better.

The more Obama talks the better McCain looks.

You sound like a typical bitter white person. Just take your gun and pray to God that you can find an illegal alien to shoot. You'll feel much better. It works for me every time.

So he views the residents of small towns in PA as mostly bitter, resentful racists whose religious practices, gun policy positions, and support for both enforcement of our nation's immigration laws and concern for our nation's economy are all explained by the fact that they're mostly unemployed and resentful?

What about the rest of the nation, where people who have good-paying full time jobs also have conservative religious beliefs, support the second amendment, and are concerned about illegal aliens and protection of our nations industrial base? Oh, I guess we don't really exist. Okay Obama, keep pretending and maybe you can make it true... after all the MSM loves you, so maybe they'll play along!

For anyone interested this is the exact quote.





Where have I seen such arrogant patronizing before?

Actually he didn't say all small towns he said "some" small towns, big difference (i.e. "You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest..."

What Obama is referring to are places where white supremacists organization are popular or not really frowned upon and in some respect very much accepted. I think I have an article from a newspaper clipping a few years ago where a pastor from a church in Eerie was speaking out against an upcoming KKK march and explained he had concerns over the KKK message resonating with many residents and therefore he felt the need to counter the demonstration.

Historically, Pennsylvania has ranked in the top 10 states for numbers of hate groups and hate crimes (i.e. see also Southern Poverty Law Center website www.splcenter.org). In a way the infrastructure of these hate groups are the same as al Qaeda or "the base". Nonetheless, these are the kinds of towns Obama is referring to when he said "some small towns..."

Way to spin it jburrs.

Do you have a quote to back that nonsense up?

Then why didn't he just say so?

I see it more as he is commenting on his impression of small town America, the religious right, gun control opponents, etc. He wants to dismiss them all as just digruntled unemployed folks. So he can continue to live in his dream world where anyone with a good steady job must automatically be a liberal socialist like himself.

Read the entire article.

Lets face it; Obama might just be TOO YOUNG AND IMMATURE for the job he is trying to get. Those statements don't necessarily make him a bad person, but it's the kind of same stuff I hear from the local teenagers who don't understand how the world works. It is clear that he does not understand demograhics. I wonder what his positions would be on people he does not understand in other countries too, if he actually did get into the white house? I don't even try to figure him out anymore.......I just won't vote for him because he does not sound like an adult when he talks.

He is just spewing the same message we've been getting from Hollywood, the MSM and the worst of the elitist left for years. As the most extreme left-wing candidate, what else should we expect?

A little more experience with people.

"The same as al-Qaeda"??? "These are the kinds of towns" ??? What a bunch of crap. The KKK. Unbelievable. I do not respect Oh-bama and have a big dis-trust of anyone that could look me in the eye and say he is any kind of "answer" for this Country. gad I feel ill....

Speaking of hate groups, has anyone been watching Obama's attempt to keep his support from the New Blank Panther movement on the down-low? It seems like no sooner does he distance himself from them that they make some new statement about how they love the guy.

Maybe they do not want him to win.

The most telling thing to me about the whole episode is not as much what he said but when and where he said it. He was speaking at a private fund raiser in San Francisco. There were no reporters allowed at the event. The girl who recorded him was only there because she was a donor. She was also a "citizen blogger" for the Huffington Post. I don't believe he misspoke as he later claimed. I think he knew exactly what he was saying and who he was saying it to. I'm sure he and his rich California pals had a good laugh about the poor rednecks back east as he was explaining to them why he was having such a difficult time convincing them to vote for him.

IMO he's an elitist snob who knows what to say to whichever group he's conning at the moment. Just like someone else we all know.

Yeah.....but it backfired on him this time. Let's face it....he's not as brilliant as he thinx he is.

It backfired big time! Many folks are saying it's gonna cost him PA. He and Hildabeast were neck and neck before, but now he is way behind in the polling.

I'm not sure that I see this issue as annoying as Hillary Clinton lying about being under fire numerous times. Obama isn't denying that he said it. Like someone said, you have to put it into context. He was speaking in a closed conference in San Fran. I'm sure there were expensive drinks going around and snobbish laughter, etc. If he needs to put down the small town people behind closed doors to get some rich snob support then go for it. They are the ones funding his campaign. Do we think that other candidates don't do the same thing? I'm thinking the problem is that it got out. I'm just happy that he's not lying about it. Sure it makes him sound snobbish. Do we think that Hillary Clinton is out hunting deer in the woods, working for the railroad, or coming home scraping the dirt out from under her fingernails? Aren't all presidential candidates snobby? They may try to play up their grass roots and my daddy was a coal miner backgrounds, but they certainly aren't poor, and that's the bottom line to me.

I thought the Hillary taking shots videos on the news all day were amusing. She certainly can't be snobby because she is taking shots and drinking beer!

I find the comments more elitist than snobbish.

You don't think that most republican candidates, with their favoring of tax breaks for the upper class, are elitist?

Edit-Nothing against republicans. Just wondering.

I guess you could say most politicians are elitist to some degree.

So you think tax breaks for the upper class is a bad thing?

Nope, they can give them all the breaks they want. Doesn't bother me at all. Just saying that I think most politicians are elitist.

Which they may be, but when they say this kind of crap and it gets out it p!sses people off.

When McCain says something like that I'll probably be p!ssed, but I'll over look it because he's a republican.

Of course you will

Yes, I do see how this would make people mad. It's more personal than Hilary lying about being shot at. Speaking of being shot at, you aren't supposed to end sentences with prepositions (like at) so how should I say someone was being shot at? They weren't being shot. Oh, I have it, fired upon! Wait, upon is a preposition, help me out.

Help you out. Yeh me and my high school education will help you out.

Now you're getting it, Hilary was just lying and we're used to that from the Clintons.

Obama was insulting people.

Is there a difference?

That's it just use your education as an excuse to not help people. I see...

Is it really that offensive? I guess I have trouble being offended since I'm not religious, gun toting, or angry about immigrants. Are we getting offended because of the bitter part, or what?

So much for Obama being Jesus-like. Jesus loves everyone! Including gun toting, religious, anti immigrant people.

Id: here is what the dictionary says

Elitist: the belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.

Snob: befitting or characteristic of those who inclined to social
exclusiveness and who rebuff the advances of people
considered inferior

So snobs refer only to social status where elitist can refer to intellect also.

In that case Ud's right. He was definitely calling them stupid IMO. It's not the bitter part that's so bad. He could have said angry, or frustrated instead and it would been just as bad. It's the clinging to religion and guns that's so condescending.

It's official. Even he thinks he's in trouble now. You can tell by this photo taken today. Notice anything?

No halo?

John McCain calls for gas tax??

Only the true believers can see that.

Remember this statement?




Check out his lapel.

I guess how he was treating his fellow Americans wasn't working out so well.

Not quite. He called for a gas tax holiday.

Yeah, right after he decided to give in to the liberal propaganda and declare that we're in a recession, saying it doesn't really matter what the experts say, he calls it a recession.

I see, the scrollers not scrollin...

I think Obama didn't just say it that way in part because his advisors aren't providing him with specific data they collect. From what I can tell he gets briefed on issues and goes from there. Most people are unaware of recruiting tactics of supremacists and separatist organizations and therefore can't relate to comments Obama made. I'm sure Obama himself hasn't researched specifics about these organizations. Actually, I don't believe any of the candidates would recognize real data on this subject if it were placed directly in front of them. However, the Pennsylvania Commission on Human Relations tracks and provides information on radical groups and unfortunately Obama's comments are very consistent with that information. Same holds true for the midwest. When I was stationed at Ft. Sheridan many years ago soldiers were briefed about the potential danger certain areas in Illinois presented to minority soldiers (i.e. Cicero, a place MLK, Jr. characterized as being more prejudiced than Selma, Alabama - King conducted 3 marches in Selma).

Bottom line I think Obama is a little green when it comes to dealing with race related issues and seems to put his foot in his mouth even when speaking truthfully and candidly on the difficult subjects. Clinton and McCain avoid providing specifics on tough issues and try to stay politically correct. The problem with this is a person will never know whether or not they have a complete understanding of the problem.

I have noticed that Obama has matured significantly over the past year which tells me he learns from any errors or mistakes he makes. Hillary just isn't a good choice at all. Way to much BS and not enough substance. In terms of political maturity and being politically correct McCain is way ahead of both Obama and Hillary. I have two main problems with McCain: 1) His support for the war in Iraq and the stay the course strategy and 2) I don't believe he pays attention to minority affairs.

That's no spin Udmas, that's real information I have tracked for more than 10 years. In 1998, I attended a function in York, PA dealing with a rash of racially motivated events (i.e. swastika's on synagogue's, confederate flag and noose intimidation, etc.). A representative from the PA Human Relations Commission was one of the speakers and provided years of historical data the state government collects on groups like the KKK, Aryan Brotherhood, and Neo-Nazis. In the mid to late 1990's PA ranked like 4th in the number of hate groups and 5,6, or 7 in hate crimes. See links below

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http://pahomepage.com/content/fulltext/?cid=24737

WILKES-BARRE, LUZERNE COUNTY- Hate crimes are actually the most under-reported crime in America. That could be because of the firestorm we saw in Wilkes-Barre this week after Anti-Semitic graffiti found spray painted on a synagogue.

But experts say, hate crimes are very common in our area. They're happening here in northeastern Pennsylvania, and hate groups are setting up shop. Dr. Linda Trompetter of the Luzerne County Diversity Commission says, "They're here, they've been here for a long time, but they surface i think when opportunities exist."

Trompetter says the statistics are there to prove it. Between 2005 and 2006, 19 bias-related crimes took place in Luzerne county, and 4 in Lackawanna county. Bias-related means crimes against a certain race, color, or religion.

Some of these crimes are committed by people affiliated with white supremacy groups - groups Trompetter says are on the rise in our area. She says, "Pennsylvania has one of the largest numbers of hate groups in the country."

Up to 33 to be exact, according to the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission. Earlier this year, Keystone Skinheads posted fliers all across South Wilkes-Barre


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That is what I call spin.

If that is what he was referring to then I think he would have said so by now.

jb, just read the papers, dude: nobody is falling for the line of reasoning you're trying to push. Obama's statement was so obviously elitist and insulting that even the mainstream media gets it.

I wouldn't even know what to call it.

That was the nicest thing I could think of.

Wow, mainstream media now that's a real reliable source!

And you are what, Obama's First Cousin?

You skimmed right over that word "even". The MSM are not the most reliable resource. But even so, they seem to have figured it out.

Interesting. Nah, I don't think I'm Obama's cousin. I do have blood lines to the Queen of England through my grandmother born Hazel Lancaster from the House of Lancaster (a branch of the English royal House of Plantagenet). That's the reason why I think I turned out so light-skinned was because the Anglo genes (English, Irish, French) in my blood are more dominant than the African and native American. Took me a while to figure that one out. :-)

People like you are probably the reason why Obama didn't stay on this topic to long because regardless of what he might say, regardless of any factual information he might present, it would never be good enough. Politics 101 - make a blunder, apologize for it and move on because attempting to explain could often do more damage than good.

Nonetheless, it's not me who disregards real factual information it's people like you. Information that has long been recognized and accepted by the state governing bodies of the small towns in question, you seem to disregard and point to the same mainstream media that fails to report on facts such as the 48% increase in U.S. born hate groups since the year 2000 and if a map of where these hate groups exist were placed over a map where small towns have lost mass jobs and/or lack population diversity and have angry often disgruntled residents, you would find that the maps overlay the same towns.

Believe what you will, disregard the facts about the real reason you hate Obama, and continue to prove the statistics correct regarding "some" small towns in America!

Even if you make it some small towns, even if you change it to KKK towns, that STILL doesn't make his comments acceptable. Just because a town contains some KKK members doesn't mean that everyone in the town that owns a gun is bitter, jobless, clinging to religion etc. I don't understand where you are trying to go with your comments. It doesn't make his comments acceptable regardless of which town he is referring to. If you live in a southern town with KKK members does that mean that you are exactly like them. I don't see how we need to bring the hate crimes thing into this, it has nothing to do with it. We aren't exaggerating what he said, we aren't taking it out of context either.

Bingo! Methinks sombody has been drinking too much of Obama's Kool-aid.

He even thinks he knows me and can comment on "people like you" (me). I guess because I am white it's okay to talk about "people like you" (me).

I do hope Obama wins because he will be far easier to beat than Clintoon. It worries me that Hitlery has jumped the gun a little. We need to wait until he is the Democrat's candidiate and THEN turn the flashlight on and give everybody a good look.

I'm curious as to what the real reason we hate Obama is. I hope you are not trying to play the "we don't like him because he is black" card because that is laughable. Who said he, or any of us, "hate" Obama. We are saying his words are offensive, nothing more.

By the way, Hillary needs to take that class you were referring to, Politics 101. Apologize and move on...

Obama flips the bird.

Clinton calls for gas-tax holiday too.


Obama thinks $66 in your pocket isn't worth it. I guess he thinks it's better that the oil companies have it.


We should be flipping him the bird.