Consider that my italian flair on the word.

It's controversial these days. What do y'all think? I don't know a lot about it. I haven't seen one in real life. A penis, that is. Is this like an innie/outtie belly button thing?

LMAO!! Yea I guess you could say that it's an " inny / outty" thing!

My son was not circumcised, so when I was giving him a bath I had to pull the foreskin back to wash inside the area because bacteria can accumilate and cause infections and such.
Thats all a circumcision is really, just folding back the foreskin. With a circumcision, it's just easier hygenically really. Without you just need to be more careful cleaning wise.


Oh, and you better start looking at them when given the chance...you don't want one all " leaky" and stuff

GEEZ, West Virginia posters are leading the pack today, bring it on. A couple of new threads.

First: Good Spelling, the spelling gurues on this forum will be relieved. (Think I just mispellled. )

I forget what is the most popular in the US, among the medical establishment. Hmm, this will be intriguing, watching and sitting back from this thread.

No controversy here. It's a basic necessity, IMO.

In spite of the rage against it, which IMO is based on a general trend against anything even as very remotely connected to Judeo-Christian tradition as this is, no matter how many members of the "medical" community the anti-religious zealots co-opt, I continue to believe it's a matter of cleanliness and health.

Civilized people do it. Those who don't are either dirty uncivilized louts or anti-social geeks with a generally anti-Judeo-Christian prejudice.

Nice sweeping generalization there. Thank you for enlightening us.

I would not be so sure about that. A medical friend of mine stated that it is about 50-50 nowadays.

Everything you always wanted to know, but were afraid to ask, and some things you never wanted to know...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision

oops.... CONTAINS PHOTOS OF NUDITY...exercise caution.

I just saw an episode of "Penn & Teller's Bullsh*t" recently which was devoted to the subject of circumcision. Pretty interesting. I always kind of assumed that circumcision was the way to go, but they confirmed that many people are opting not to circumcise their babies nowadays, and also that most other parts of the world rarely circumcise, if at all. Also there was a segment of the show devoted to the movement among circumcised men, where they stretch the scrotum skin, using small weights...and over a period of time they can have "new" foreskin and look uncircumcised. And yes, there was even a demonstration of the procedure.

I don't know if there's a right or wrong to the issue, I think (like most anything) it depends on what culture you grew up in as to whether an uncircumcised member might look peculiar or not. Most people in our country, myself included, think they look a little strange...kinda like this! >>>>>>>

They may look funny, but they work the same.
Again, it's a matter of hygene. Without, the foreskin must be gently pulled back to clean and dry. Thats all. Everything else works just fine.
I'm proud to be one of the "rabble-rousers" if it means that I'm not one of the sanctimonious, little-minded, blow-hards that condemn anything or anyone NOT like themselves

Agreed... UNcircumcised look way too, I dunno, "uck"! Not that a circumcised penis is one of the most attractive things in the first place! But, as they say... It's not just looks that count!

The uncircumcised one looks much happier to me.

A circumsized "member" looks medically altered and "pussified" to this healthy, Pagan woman! Hubby disagrees, but he has been brainwashed by our unnaturally Judeo-Christian population.(yeah........most of us cannot, ancestrally, lay claim to an Eastern religion!!!) My son was never circumsized, and was also born in WV. My former father-in-law was also never circumsized, and was born in WV........As long as one bathes every day and is reasonably clean and wears clean clothes every day, there really isn't a problem with infections. The infections start when one starts creating or living in filthy conditions, and in cases like that, people would get infections anyway. Could the cultures who started the practice have wanted to make filthiness easier to bear? I'd rather bathe and do laundry........................................

Blow-hard...

Has anyone actually considered the surgery itself? A newborn, having very recently undergone the trauma of birth, is strapped to a board and cut on a very sensitive part of his body, WITHOUT ANESTHSIA!!! It may seem very civilized to those who accept violence and mutilation as commonplace, but I loved my son before he was born, I loved him when he was born, and I love him now..........so no such actions were taken against him. And he and I are not dirty louts or anti social geeks, thankyou very much.

thats what I always thought.
guess you could even go the route as to saying: Dirty Christians !!! LMAO!!

You're startin', Dragon! Crankin' right up!

Do we need to start a thread about the word "missionary", as well?

...as in "position"??? Go for it! hehehehehe!

That should prolley be it's own thread, though!♫♪♫♪♫

It's an awful lot more traumatic to have it done as an adult. IMO no parent should force their kid to grow up as a freak and then have to go through that as an adult just to be normal.

My college boyfriend wasn't circumcised and he didn't feel like a freak. In fact, when I mentioned that his penis was different, he gave me a funny look and said, "I thought only Jewish people got circumcised."

When I got pregnant--before we knew it was a girl--I talked to Hubby about it. "If it's a boy," I said, "do you want to get him circumcised?"

Without hesitation he answered "Yes."

Since it's kind of a male thing, I just said "Ok." I figure that's one (of the few) things in our child's life where he can take control.

"Normal?" Sorry, little boys are born "normal" and then we alter them! Sort of like the practice of cutting off a dog's tail or docking it's ears, don't cha' think?

I'm not starting. It just seems to follow the train of thought.
Wonder if the thread about missionary would take off?
I remember the poster at the Head Shop in downtown Hag with all the postions

Remember when The Joy of Sex was published??? That was the Holy Grail of the 70's sexual revolution! I remember seeing the illustration of the man "chewing" on the woman's armpit hair - ew! It STILL grosses me out!

First off I have been circumsized and I have no children nor will I have any.

With that said, what the F is a comment like that about. If you don't have a little skin around your pecker sliced off you are a freak. Come on now, Freak. Have you seen the kids in school today? I think that a little extra skin is the least of most of the kids concerns. It looks different because that is what we are used to. If you lived somewhere else or would grow up in the future the uncircumsized penis is the norm so it would look natural and is natural. I still can't believe you said Freak. If over 50% of US boys are NOT getting their skin cut, it makes them the majority not a freak.

Hey that's just my personal opinion and if you don't like it then so what?

It doesn't matter how much you hate me or my opinion you are never going to change it. Nobody is saying any of you have to agree with me, so what's the big deal?

Such intolerance! So typical!

Now that is some funny sh*t there. Calling a person with a little extra skin a freak and we are the intolerant ones. HAHAHAHA

Before going into this I actually read the whole thread. Amazing isn't it? I too was snipped at birth along with all 5 of my brothers, all my nephews are cut, and our son was cut at birth. Did I cry when my son was snipped yeah sure did. In our case the Doctor informed us that they numb his penis and that it wouldn't hurt him but be somewhat uncomfortable. Ok I cringed as an adult. I can say my Step father is not cut, and in his older age (in his 70's) he's not that clean of a person. During an event that we all was at last year the stench was so bad coming from him and he just showered. I personally ask him in private if he cleaned real good down there. His comment was I didn't pull it back all the way. My Stars if I had to worry about that along with my son I'd puke on a daily biases. Personally as a male I think it's repulsive to even see an uncut. NOT THAT I LOOK OK.... for us it's strictly a health issue, we have 5 nurses through out our family and we know the health fruits of having this done. Let's face it, teenagers will be teenagers, just as I was and I admit I was on the beat often. Having said that, in today's times the chance of carrying around a disease is more often carried by the uncut then that of a cut male. Because the uncut may not get it all the way clean, right down to drying it off good after showering.

Yeah that is some funny stuff. You people cannot abide someone who doesn't agree with your idiotic lame opinions. I will think whomever I want to think is a freak and you can't do anything about it.

I'm sure that just irritates the heck out of all of you falsely-so-called "open-minded" people. You're only open-minded towards people who think exactly like you. Now THAT is funny!

Dodge, with the girls of today I don't think any man can keep it clean, "cut" or "uncut". The only safe sex these days is no sex.

Ok......no circumcision, then. That way, every part will be NORMAL, just as "GOD" made it!

What have you gone through as an adult, just to be normal, BMIC?

Nothing. My parents raised me right.

As if you weren't expecting that response.

Hey........BMIC; who died and left YOU an expert on mens' penises and how they should look, anyway? Or did you become an expert through hard work and careful observation? ♫♪♫♀♫♪

SS I don't think you're even properly EQUIPPED to be challenging my bona fides when it comes to the subject.

Or are you?

Just asking. You seem to be promoting your own opinion pretty strongly here, even though freaky looking penises should not be a problem in your life.

Dodgeman.....any disease that can be contracted and spread by someone who isn't circumsized can also JUST AS EASILY be contracted and spead by someone who is circumsized. Microorganisms are microscopic.

I'm just stating my own opinion strongly. And getting annoyed at the usual intolerance shown me by the dolts who disagree.

Ok.........................

did you mean you never seen one at all or did you mean you never seen one of each?

Speaking of removing things unnecessarily...I love how every time my throat hurts and my tonsils are swollen people jump to GET YOUR TONSILS TAKEN OUT! People don't get that done anymore, because it doesn't make much difference on the amount of sore throats you have. Just like people don't get "bled" anymore (drilling holes in the head or wherever to drain out blood to cure you). It's not going to hurt you to have extra skin, but since men are lazy we should continue to cut it off because they may forget to wash down there...cuz they are lazy and all..you know?



That last part was a joke by the way.

Blow-hard's bona fides.

"From BMIC"
Dodge, with the girls of today I don't think any man can keep it clean, "cut" or "uncut". The only safe sex these days is no sex.
Sad to say this BMIC but I bet you're right. These girls today are more brave and deviant then they were when I was in school. And B, I think that falls on the part of Wishful thinking a tad bit, "No Sex these day's." I'm 43 and a grandparent 4 times over and 1 on the way anytime now. Yeap busy girl. Our son is just starting. But we're young enough to spoil them rotten and send them back. LOL LOL

"From SS"

Dodgeman.....any disease that can be contracted and spread by someone who isn't circumcised can also JUST AS EASILY be contracted and spread by someone who is circumcised. Microorganisms are microscopic.
Yes you are so correct. But SS I think you misunderstood what I meant. I mean that is it so much easier for and uncut to pass or to carry a disease then that of a cut man.

I personally don't and have never looked at having our son circumcised as a religion belief we chose to do this for health reason's alone. Such as I mentioned we have 5 RN's in our family's. All of them have stated fact's to us that made since. In the case of my Step Father he get's like yeast infection's a lot. Go figure??? Back to the cleanliness thing. And yes he is an older male but still,,,,, Sorry just nasty in my book.

I think that a thread talking about penis' and throats are great too bad everyone has to talk about the negative regarding both.

Dodge, certain liberal physicians under orders from the anti-religious zealots have been saying lately that the logical and conventional wisdom you are reciting: that an uncircumcised penis can harbor infections (in the folds of skin if they're not kept properly cleaned and dry for example) and is therefore less healthy than a circumcised one, is not really true. They've done some "studies" and manipoulated the "data" sufficiently to "prove" that there's no difference and therefore circumcision isn't really any more healthy.

As you can tell, I think those "studies" amount to little more than manipulated data produced by people with an agenda, but they're out there. (Wayyy out there , IMO)

I reality, I am "normal" and I have no boys and not likely to be having any more kids in my lifetime, so the question for me is purely academic. But I do find the thought of not circumcising to be generally repulsive, dirty, and uncivilized.

What is your toughts on two uncicumcised penis' in a sword fight?

The homosexual fantasies web site is ====== That way.

When I had my first two sons, in the early 80's, there was a big "grassroots" movement to get back to the natural way. So, at least in my crowd (and yes, B, they were Christians, not Baptists, though) there was a big push to Not circumsise (how do you spell that, anyway?? )

You know the whole packet ..... home birth, midwife, breast feed only (never give a bottle), sleep in a family bed, home school, no ciricucision, and even alot of talk about no vaccinations. I was way too traditional for all of that. But, those kids are adults now. As are mine. And you can tell the difference between who was raised one way over the other. They all turned out healthy and loved.

Like, Peacefrog, I went with whatever hubby wanted. He made the decision and I went with it. No problem for me.

And, I can't understand why a man would get a circumcision later on in life. Why put yourself through that? Just curious.

Hey checks! Usually it's for medical reasons like recurring infections. In my former career I paid claims at a health insurance company, and I remember getting more than a few claims for circumcisions on middle-aged men. Also young teens. It was always medically needed for those poor guys. And yes I cringed, even though I don't have those parts. Thank god they didn't have the operative reports attached to the bills, wouldn't make for fun reading...

Ouch! Thanks for the info. I didn't think any man would willingly do that, but didn't realize there could be problems with infections. Yikes!

I think your problem is that you happen to be circumsized, and you wish you weren't!..................


Oops; that's to BMIC, Dodgeman. Not aimed at you..........sorry!

Yea what is that called Penis Skin Envy????

I think you need to have your head examined. Your mental faculties appear to be severely lacking.