QUOTE (Snoopy @ May 30 2008, 11:06 AM)

QUOTE (siriunsun @ May 30 2008, 11:56 AM)

QUOTE (Snoopy @ May 30 2008, 10:44 AM)

QUOTE (siriunsun @ May 30 2008, 11:22 AM)

If they were in the United States, they would either not have a vote, or suddenly be given one if they all agreed to vote republican!

Yeah, just like all the republicans who led the way to giving blacks the right to vote, huh?
How long ago?
You first -- how long ago did they offer to give someone the right to vote only because they agreed to vote republican?
From what political party did most of the politicians and big shots who fought for civil rights in the 60's come from? Republican.
Despite liberal press bias, the Republican party has for over a century been the party that led on the issue of civil rights.
From
http://www.ccrgop.org/CivilRights.htm:Three years after Brown, President Eisenhower won passage of his landmark Civil Rights Act of 1957. Now remember, the nation had just ended a long stretch of Democratic administrations -- nearly four terms of FDR, and seven years of Truman -- and yet there had been no civil rights legislation at all. In fact, the Republican Civil Rights Act of 1957 was the first U.S. civil rights legislation in eight decades.
Another great Republican, U.S. Senator Everett Dirksen of Illinois, authored and introduced the 1960 Civil Rights Act. It was also he who was most responsible -- more than any other individual -- for the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act. As Republican Leader in the Senate, even though his party was in the minority, Dirksen crafted the strategy that overcame long odds and tenacious Democratic opposition.
The Democrats weren't just internally conflicted about the 1964 Civil Rights Act; a significant number of them actually filibustered it -- preventing an up or down vote on the bill. Eventually, however -- thanks to Dirksen's leadership -- this landmark legislation did get the vote it deserved. As with all of the previous civil rights legislation in our nation's history, it passed with significantly more support from Republicans than from Democrats. The same was true for the 1965 Voting Rights Act, which became law the following year.
I'll agree with you that Nixon gave 18 yr. olds the vote, but I really don't find that republicans have been that ammenable to civil rights over the last 50 yrs. Democrats and Republicans alike were conflicted over the civil rights act of 1964.
Both Bush administrations is where the republican party has really taken a nose dive in terms of civil rights and moral leadership in general. Jeb Bush promising Florida to his brother before a general election???? Come on.....he should have just watched the election from a distance. Getting close enough to promise his state? Even in Maryland, when Glendenning won the election for governer fair and square......we had an election and he won. Republicans never did prove any wrongdoing...........(I'll have to admit, both of the Glendenning races were fun to watch, though!

) Yet they tried to make accusations. And Bush did not really win either of his presidential elections; he essentially grabbed them from the winners. The nation has been over this again and again, so I am not going to dig up data and regurgitate it unless everyone REALLY wants to go there, but lets face it, the Bush administration has some serious moral problems when it comes to counting votes. Thankyou for your valid point that BOTH parties, historically; and therefore, people in general, have had their moral problems with civil rights. The question remains, what do we do now? And concerning tribes of people who have nothing to gain from participating in any world politics except to defend themselves, how do we treat them?