After all the bad things that's being posted on here. Here is something good our troopers done. HooRay Fantastic Job troopers. Now send their rear ends back and don't let them back in. Make it an example maybe that will help deter others from traveling through.

Police briefs


Police pull over van of illegal immigrants near Hagerstown


Federal immigration agents took custody of 10 illegal immigrants after a traffic stop Sunday on northbound Interstate 81 at Maugans Avenue, Maryland State Police said in a news release.


Maryland State Police stopped a 1999 Toyota minivan from California at about 3:35 p.m., police said. The driver of the vehicle, Jose Angel Dominguez of California, produced a fraudulent Mexican driver's license, police said. It was determined that all 10 occupants, including Dominguez, were illegal immigrants, and some had been in the country illegally for four years, police said.



U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services agents took custody of the occupants for deportation proceedings, police said.

Can't figure out what this has to do with education, but will the illegals be deported or will they just be released with their promise that they will return for trial.

Udmas, You know they will return in time for the trial. They always do.

mod note: moved to a more appropriate topic.

About time.

People can be for immigration and not say it so crudely. I understand that you are angry and all, but some comments people make are what give Americans a bad name throughout the world.

The rest of the world can think what they want, I say kick their azzes back across the border.

That's ok you weren't plannin on going to France anytime soon anyway right

You'd also be first to volunteer to be a Border Patrol officer wouldn't ya?

It's ok. Just sayin.

Hmmmm. OK, personal disagreements asside, I feel we (as a nation) MUST do something about illegal immigration. The porosity of our borders is a joke. Sure there are remote locations where people will always be able to sneak across but that's life. Most of these criminals (and yes I'm talking about ALL of them. It's a crime to come here illegally) come through realitively civilized crossing points.

The whole issue of the cops stopping them in the first place raises another issue though. Cops are trained to spot certain things intrinsic to certain people - illegals, smugglers, terrorists, gang members, drug runners, etc... Often the things they're looking for while common to a specific group, are also common to normal everyday citizens who frequently just don't know any better. The question then is what makes this different from "profiling?" What, except it's political acceptability that is!

It's the government's job to take care of such things, I try not to get angry or think about it too much because it's not going to change anything.

Discussing this isn't going to change anyone's opinions just like the abortion thing. But I'll read your discussion anyway. Fun

The police brief didn't give the reason they were stopped, so until we know that we can't say it was profiling.

What's the problem with profiling?

Don't think I'll ever go to France and still don't care what they think about us because how we control our borders is none of their business.

I'd love to sit along the border, behind a sniper rifle with shoot to kill orders.

They are going to say that profiling is racist.

Then I'm going to say BS.

Lets not stop people that fit the profile lets stop everyone, that is a gross waste of resources.

Does checking everyone's luggage at the airport prevent terrorists from buying materials and creating bombs while they are in the US?

If white people were the minority and cops pulled a white person over that wasn't doing anything wrong, just because they were white and fit a profile. Would that be ok? If yes, then it's not racist.

Yes, but you can't pull people over for no reason thats why they follow you till you do do something wrong.

The reason is that they look like a terrorist. That's what profiling is, questioning you because you fit a profile, THAT is what you did wrong.

Ok, we're standing in line at airport security and they have some old white lady pulled to the side questioning her just so they can say they aren't profiling is that a waste of time or what.

I don't have a problem with profiling, but I'm white it doesn't affect me, so I can't comment or have an opinion.

Oh, but it does or has when you were younger. You don't think that police would pay more attention to a white person in a black neighborhood.

Or a young white male driving around town with a fast looking car.

I think the majority of police work requires some amount of profiling.

Most passenger verhicles, even vans, do not have enough seat belts for 10 people. Since it is now lawful for a policeman to pull over a driver if it is obvious that not all passengers have seat belts on, that van may very well have been pulled over for something that simple. That would certainly not have been profiling.

Exactly, thats the only reason they passed the seatbelt law, just another reason to pull people over and nose around.

Thank you Siriunsun I'm glad I'm not the only one who caught a verifiable reason to pull them over. That many people inside a mini van is enough to make an office think?? GGGGEEEE what do we have here?????? I praise the cop that done this and I hope they do kick their butt's out of our country. We surly wouldn't be able to travel to their county like this. I wonder just how long they've been in this country using our tax money to pay for things????????

What scares me is terrorists can very easily slip across the border and travel with ease. You won't catch 10 of them in a van with a phony license either.

Exactly........don't do something illegal, and be OBVIOUS about it, then get mad at the cop for pulling you over or apprehending you!

It's a drop in the bucket, but a good drop!

I spoke yesterday with a guy who does construction of high-end homes in the Potomac, MD and NOVA area who is about to have to close his business because he does not hire illegals and cannot compete well with those who do. A damn shame.

Wellllll not necessarily. Being white and looking somewhat like a known IRA member will get you selected for further checking real fast at Heathrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm. but once again, we (or at least I) don't know that this was the typical soccer mom type mini van with windows all around. If it was an enclosed cargo type van who'd know how many people were inside? I doubt that was the case but I remember a case years ago when MSP made what at the time (maybe still) was the largest seizure of pot in WashCo. history. A couple rastas tooling up 81. The "probable cause"? The tint on their windows was too dark.

Now people get stopped for too dark windows all the time but this was a special MSP drug currier interdiction unit that normally worked the I-95 route but got intel the mules were moving to 81 as a result of their efficiency. The reason I remember so much about the case??? Because it was DISMISSED because having too dark windows was judged insuficient reason for the stop and subsequent search! Yup, the guys hauling the largest load of dope ever (caught) in Washington County were turned loose because an experienced cop realized they were smugglers but could only come up with a very simple reason to stop them. Was justice served? At the time I thought it was rediculous they were let go but now I'm not so sure. The dope smugglers won that day but so did individual freedom and the principals we've fought for.

I believe it was old Ben Franklin who said; "he who would exchange freedom for security receives neither!" I'm just not comfortable giving up rights in exchange for some warm feeling. The fact is, for every tool the cops have to catch the bad guys, the bad guys will come up with several ways around it.

Drugs, people, WMD's, if somebody wants to get it moved it will get moved one way or another. That said, the best tools any cop has is good training, experience and intuition. When he is prevented from putting the last two to use - within the constraints of the contitution - we might as well send him home.

So I can tint my windows darker than the law allows and the cops can't pull me over?

They can pull you over but can't search. Though I don't know what suspicion or evidence they do need to search.

Also, if you have tinted windows you must be doing drugs, didn't you know?

They just need to walk the drug dog around the car.

Not in my book.