Uh, yeah... Forclosure rates at an all time high, gas prices soar & with inflation equals the oil problems in the late 70's/early 80's, Wall Street in constant turmoil - seems like some legit things to "whine" about to me!

Former Sen. Phil Gramm doesn't like whiners...

He's right, we are a bunch of whiners.

I'd have to agree with Sen. Gramm the whiner to citizen ratio has to be higher here than anywhere else in the world

Why shouldn't we be whiners?

We're a bunch of spoiled, fat couch potatoes.

We had been paying way less for our gasoline than just about any other western nation. We buy stuff and throw it away when it breaks, instead of fixing it. Our nationalistic attitude rules the world (at least in our eyes). We demand that everyone else follows our example and lives by our rules.

Whiners? You bet!

Do I whine (although I would prefer to call it complain - whining is a high-pitch, cry-like demand that toddlers and small children do, IMO) because I see good people lose their homes because mortgage lending was not properly regulated with their insane too-good-to-be-true products that lured home buyers into more home than they could afford? Because I see my tax dollars & part of my hard earned money go to lazy welfare single mothers who have made a living out of having babies who work three months out of the year to just make enough money to file taxes, only to actually receive more back in a return than they paid in - yet I end up getting back substantially less than I paid in? Not to mention the $6,000 in daycare that I paid out of my pocket with no assistance that I only get a $1,200 credit for? Or because people are having to cut back their food purchases or pawn their prized possessions just to afford the gas to go to and from work while Exxon Execs are bathing in the billions of profits they made in just a quarter? Yep. I sure as hell do. But, I will try to be thankful every day for what I do have and stand tall as I recite my pledge... Oops - wrong thread...

I saw a segment on TV recently where a church is handing out little rubber-band type bracelets. Everytime a parishoner wants to complain (whine), they SNAP their little bracelet on their wrist. Sort of like a self-punishment/reminder when trying to quit smoking/swearing/etc.

Hubby thought it a grand idea and vowed to 'try' to stop complaining.

It didn't work too long.

I find my self whining/bitching/complaining waaaaaay too much and have actually tried to curb it, it's working somewhat.

#1Son is a complainer. I suggested he complain only 1/2 the time, and suck up any complaint he may have the other 1/2.

So...a few days ago, he was complaining about some stupid thing and I reminded him. He informed me that he WAS only complaining 1/2 the time, and that I should be grateful that he was able to keep the previous complaint silent.

I give up.

Kinda like that thing in The Divinci Code... Where that Silas guy has the thing strapped to his leg & keeps tightening it so that the metal claws dig further into his skin so that he can show his repentance... That dude was so creepy...

Yeah, kinda like that, also kinda like going to your in-laws for Christmas (gonna hurt, but gotta go). NOTE: I love my in-laws, that was just an example folks!

Loved the book, hated the movie. The book was soooo much more graphic w/Silas. Movie made him a bad guy, book kinda made me emphasize with him. Still...creepy.

Agreed. Book > movie... But, I did like the movie... I love Tom Hanks!

If anyone would like to try it, I have about 20-25 of these bracelets. I got them for work but no one will wear them.

http://acomplaintfreeworld.org/

Is this the same guy that's on TV that says he can make you thinner by having you tap two fingers on your forehead???

I have not seen that guy. But I find that one hard to believe. Because I always have another hand to shovel food into my mouth.

ME ME ME! I'd like to snap them around the throat of all my co-workers. j/k...sorta

Actually, I'd LOVE to have one if possible.

PM me if you'd like and we'll hook up (I might even bring you some oregano!)

Pusher !!! LOL

Woah woah woah! No one on here could possibly wear one of those bracelets, all we do on here is complain. It must make us feel better about ourselves

I'd have to agree with Sen. Gramm also.

Just so you all know, Senator Graham (McCain's Chief Economic Advisor) lol, write $70,000 checks at least once a week. And he calls us whiners? Maybe John McCain should end his campaign this week. Of course, I'll never vote republican agai because of all the hypocrisy, and Bush and Cheney own all those oil stocks.

Did you vote republican before?

sadly, yes, I ashamed to admit it.

Fact: When a person becomes President of the US, he/she is required to place all personal assets into a blind trust.
Fact: Same for VP
If the people running the blind trust are not investing wisely, they should be sued or prosecuted for misfeasance or malfeasance. The President and VP have zero idea where there money is invested. If one is not the manager of the blind trust, then that person alleging profiteering on the part of the Pres/VP is making a baseless speculation, and character assassination based upon lack of knowledge. If one is the manager of the trust, one making that statement is betraying a confidence he/she was bonded to keep.

Now I have no doubt that the trusts have holding in oil and other high price commodities....
The above requirement does not hold true for members of the House or Senate....
DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE FOR A MINUTE that members of the House or Senate (both Democrat and Republican) do not also have holdings in oil commodities and are making a bundle on them....
I am getting real tired of everyone screaming that Bush is making millions on oil and that is why the price/barrel is so high....

Let me toss a little piece of basic economy out here...
Oil is traded in US Dollars....
The US Dollar is at an all time low at this time
This means that foreign currency is worth a lot more.
Since oil is traded in US Dollars, US speculators and investors have less money to invest
Foreign speculators and investors can now purchase oil futures for a lot less of their currency than they could last year...
For example... if the US Dollar was even with the Euro... both foreign and US speculators would be able to purchase oil futures at the same price in their currency...
However, since the 1 Euro is equal to $1.59 US Dollars... the foreign investor has an edge...
At $140 a barrel, for example, the foreign investor is now paying $87.79 Euros. At the beginning of 2007 the Euro was worth $1.20 (approximately).. therefore the price of that same $140 barrel of oil would have been $112 Euros (Approximately)
The foreign investors and speculators are making a fortune on oil futures and, of course, reselling to the oil companies at a profit...
The Chinese and India governments at buying oil in unprecedented amounts and subsidizing their people on gas and fuel oil costs..

I don't see how people can still blindly accuse one person for the price of gas and oil in this country....
You want to blame someone... how about the speculators and investors all over the world who are driving oil futures through the roof.

Come on Griz you should know by now EVERYTHING is Bush's fault.

Bush's fault, no of course not. He just about did the exact opposite what he SAID he would do in his "state of the union" speech concerning energy. Look, I actually agree with the President of Fisa. I think the FISA law actaully has kept this country safe all these years. Unlike this damn Iraqi war where 4,000 lives have died including over 150,000 Iraqis. The GOP have been wanting to invade IRAQ EVEN BEFORE SEPTEMBER 11, 2001. No its noit Bush's fault, its just his screwed up policies. The Repubilcan party is fractured, and there losing seats in the house and senate like crazy.

And now the Democrats have the majority and it's the same old Sh**.

I can't wait for the a-hole to just go away.

Yeh, we need change.

your damn right, because Bush vetoes everything!

I told you everything is Bush's fault, and I see you agree.

They seem to keep funding the "unjust" war though.

2009 will truly be the end of Error

NOT if Obama is elected....
He has spent more time campaigning to be President of the US than he has on the Senate floor...
And he actually believes he has what it takes to run this country....

I am not enamored by Bush and I voted for him.... but he has made a lot of bad choices based on information from a lot of people he should not have trusted...

Personally, I do not think McCain is going to be another Bush... in fact, I believe he is going to try as hard as possible to correct a lot of the problems from this administration and the past Democratic one... and distance himself from

From reading some of your well written posts, I'm surprised you EVER voted Republican.

Meaning republicans are stupid and can't form sentences?

If that's what you meant, and you weren't kidding, then I say: Jerk.

I'll just say that I grew up in a family that was all conservative republicans. I just casually kept with the status quo and thought that republican was the way to go. Then, I started to look into things, did some research, and actually used my God given brain. Look, neither Democrat or republican has all the good answers, in fact I truly believe that the Iraqi war is so complicated and messed up that neither Obama nor McCain have the right solutions. That doesn't mean I'll vote for McCain, especially after what his surrogate said this week.

By that same concept you should not be voting for Obama either... some of his people have said some real dumb stuff also.... I believe he has done a lot more apologizing for statements made by his staff than McCain has...

Just because a member of the campaign committee says a dumb thing, I don't immediately believe the candidate feels the same way...

I vote for the ideals of the candidate not his campaign committee.....

Im going to vote for the candidate that knows how many States there are in our Country.

Oh yeah, well, I will be voting for a candidate that still is in favor of the United States of America and not One World Government. Its called the NORTH AMERICAN Union. Heard of it? McCain's for just like Bush.

Read about the horrible plan here..... http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=14965


Have a nice Republican day.

All I have to say is BANG! BANG!!

Interesting.
About the author,
Jerome R. Corsi
Mr. Corsi is the author of several books, including "Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry" (along with John O'Neill), "Black Gold Stranglehold: The Myth of Scarcity and the Politics of Oil" (along with Craig R. Smith), "Atomic Iran: How the Terrorist Regime Bought the Bomb and American Politicians," and most recently, "Minutemen: The Battle to Secure America's Borders." He will soon author a book on the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America and the prospect of the forthcoming North American Union.
Seems the Canadians dont want us...

This story isn't new. Lou Dobbs on CNN has mentioned this North American Union many times. The Mainstream media doesn't report it. Well, there goes our constitution. Thanks George W. Bush.

Old news this was a far-right topic a while back, but even they have given it up.

I can't wait for the Amero.

There in lies your problem, listening to a man who used to peddle stocks, now thinks he can solved the worlds problems. Go back to MoneyLine Mr. Dobbs.

Wasn't Mr Gramm whining when he bought up this subject and don't I remember him whining about everything while in Congress? I wish he would shut up.

Lou makes more sense than both parties. Both political parties are out to win, not out to help normal American's.

McCAin quickly threw Mr. Graham under the bus. McCain should have gone with him if you know what I mean.

I think the Economy SUCKS!

That's all I got to say

Think it sucks? I know it sucks.

IMO, I think it's "elitist" (to use a word that is bandied about quite frequently) for a millionaire like Phil Gramm to say this nation is a bunch of whiners about the supposedly great economy, when people are getting laid off and gas and food prices seem to increase every day. "Let them eat cake," eh, Mr. Gramm.

Don't you know Rich Folks like Gramm don't think about the average working american's.

My neighbors just across the street lost their home to forecloser, because the husband lost his job. The wife work but it just wasn't enough. Now they have moved into a basement apartment paying $625 per month. It's a real shame.

There was one time of day, I use to help people in need. I can't no longer do that anymore.
My income has been cut in half and I have to ask for government help. Work is slim.

Everything is going up and there's no relief in site. More and more people will lose their home and need help from the government. More people won't even have money to pay their bills. This nation is going under. The Stimulus Package was a joke to say the least. Suppose to boost the economy, yea right.

Well the almighty Democrats say it did... and we all know they would never lie.... especially in an election year..
In fact they are supposedly working on another one to get us another check sometime this fall.... just in time for the election...
Wanna guess who they are going to give credit to for making it happen...

Sorry Griz but I gotta call this one a bipartisan cluster f---. There is more than one party running for election even though McCain looks like he's trying NOT to get elected sometimes.