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Commentary: Coverage of Obama trip almost embarrassing

NEW YORK (CNN) -- "Sometimes it's hard to tell if Barack Obama is running for president of the United States or Mr. Universe."

If you're guessing that's a quote from Michelle Obama, you're wrong. It was the first sentence of a recent article about Obama's frequent gym visits, published by the esteemed Associated Press.

So many Americans have apparently been worried that Obama might lose his great six-pack abs, the AP felt obligated to step in and put our minds at ease.

"The Democratic presidential contender exercises regularly," the Pulitzer-worthy article continued, "but over a 24-hour span this week, he took it to a new extreme. Twice on Wednesday and again Thursday morning, Obama traveled to a lakefront apartment building near his Chicago home to work out with a friend at his gym."

Whew.

But as a media outlet that claims to offer news "of the highest quality, reliability and objectivity with reports that are accurate, balanced and informed," the AP knew that it couldn't stop there. Its hard-hitting investigation revealed the answer to another question that's kept so many people up at night: "What does Barack Obama wear when he goes to the gym?" The jaw-dropping answer? "A baseball hat, white T-shirt and black sweat pants."

Wow. Sleep well.

But the AP realized that to have its reporting taken seriously, it would need to go even deeper and reveal exactly how much Obama perspires. Fortunately, it has world-class resources at its disposal: "When he shot hoops earlier this year with members of the University of North Carolina varsity men's basketball team, (the photographers accompanying him) didn't see Obama sweat."

My gosh, it's like he's not human! I'm surprised they didn't report how much he bench pressed, the incline level he used on the treadmill or what songs were on his iPod. Then again, I probably just didn't look hard enough.

To reiterate, this wasn't a hometown newspaper, local television affiliates or a left-wing blogger reporting this "news" about Obama's exercise routine. It was a mainstream, international, "unbiased" news organization.

Of course, anecdotal evidence that Obama probably polls somewhere around 95 percent with members of the media has been around for years, but now there are some actual statistics to back it up.

According to the Tyndall Report, a service that monitors the three network news broadcasts, ABC, NBC, and CBS have spent a total of 114 of their national airtime minutes covering Obama since June. They've spent 48 minutes on his Republican rival, Sen. John McCain.

And then you have the almost embarrassing way the media have gushed over Obama's trip to the Middle East. There were 200 requests for the 40 press seats available on Obama's plane, and all three top network anchors (Katie Couric, Charles Gibson and Brian Williams) made the trip and are broadcasting live from each country Obama visits.

You can't buy that kind of publicity. And neither could McCain.

McCain made a trip to the Middle East in March and didn't have to worry about finding seats for any network anchors, because none of them wanted to go. And while Obama was flying from country to country this week in a plane packed with celebrity reporters, McCain flew to an event in New Hampshire. After his Boeing 737 landed in Manchester, he stepped out onto the tarmac and glanced at the one reporter who'd bothered to show up. Yes, one.

And then you have the print media's fascination with Obama. He's been on the cover of U.S. News and World Report, GQ, Rolling Stone, US Weekly (twice), Time and Newsweek (a combined 12 times) and will soon be on the cover of Men's Vogue for the second time. To be fair, Men's Vogue also did an in-depth story on John McCain but, strangely, a photo of McCain didn't make their cover.

Why the disparity? According to Men's Vogue deputy editor Ned Martel, there's a simple explanation: Obama "is what is called in the magazine world an 'interest driver.' " Translation: Obama sells magazines.

As a conservative, I can't argue with that logic. "The Media" aren't around for their health, they're around to make money, and if Obama drives sales or ratings, then I can't really blame them for continuing to tap that well until it runs dry. I could make an argument that McCain's campaign has plenty of interesting angles that would sell and rate -- but, quite honestly, until this media infatuation phase is over, they're not even worth bringing up.

I do, however, find it funny that many of the same people who are clearly not fans of big business or truly free markets have embraced this "run what rates" philosophy. I guess capitalism is evil until it's you whose paycheck is at stake.

But all of this points to a larger point: We've become a country that continually chooses the sizzle over the steak. McCain may not get my vote, but he gets my admiration for at least offering some substance and new ideas when he speaks. Obama, meanwhile, is like the rock star who's realized that he can just scream unintelligible words into the microphone between songs, and the entire stadium will still scream. When your fans already love you, there's no reason to risk it by offering anything that might be controversial. Remember the Dixie Chicks?

As candidates, Barack Obama and John McCain are ironically a lot like the way the media treats them: Obama is the glitzy magazine cover that screams for people to buy the issue, and McCain is the fact-filled article buried inside that makes you glad you did.



If there's one thing I've learned about public opinion over the years it's that when this many people agree on something they're almost always wrong.

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coma
McCain's campaign is going down in flames.
wildblue
While I will agree that there has been a lot of Obama hype, there has also been a lot of Obama slamming (in some instances warranted, in some instances not). What I want to know is why does McCain seem to get a free pass from the mainstream media? He's made some incredible gaffes, including foreign policy blunders (such as linking Al Qaeda to Iran, among others). He would seem to be teflon coated in regard to criticism from mainstream media. The terms "liberal media" are flung about quite frequently, and while that very well may have been the case in the post-Watergate years, the mainstream media that currently exists is corporate controlled and hardly what I would call liberal.

For the record, I'm neither a Democrat nor a Republican, and I don't pigeonhole myself with the terms "liberal" or conservative"--I vote on the issues. To me, and this is only my opinion mind you, it's glaringly obvious that the mainstream media as a whole tends to treat McCain with kid gloves.
Snoopy
QUOTE (wildblue @ Jul 24 2008, 10:57 AM) *
To me, and this is only my opinion mind you, it's glaringly obvious that the mainstream media as a whole tends to treat McCain with kid gloves.

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Idiot
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Jul 24 2008, 11:39 AM) *
QUOTE (wildblue @ Jul 24 2008, 10:57 AM) *
To me, and this is only my opinion mind you, it's glaringly obvious that the mainstream media as a whole tends to treat McCain with kid gloves.

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To do anything else they would first have to acknowledge that he even exists. laugh.gif
Idiot
QUOTE (coma @ Jul 24 2008, 10:43 AM) *
McCain's campaign is going down in flames.



I agree. I have to admit that a part of me is enjoying it because of how he sold out to the Republican party in the early stages of the 2000 primary. You can say what you want about Hillary Clinton but at least she told the Democratic party to shove it. That goes a long way in my book, I'm sick of politicians who put their party ahead of everything else.
CleverNameGoesHere
I don't like either candidate. I will probably vote for some third-party candidate and make no difference whatsoever in this election, except that maybe if enough other people vote for third-party candidates, some day in the distant future we'll get out of the two-party mindset?
jburrs1715
QUOTE (CleverNameGoesHere @ Jul 24 2008, 11:51 AM) *
I don't like either candidate. I will probably vote for some third-party candidate and make no difference whatsoever in this election, except that maybe if enough other people vote for third-party candidates, some day in the distant future we'll get out of the two-party mindset?

Voting for a third-party candidate does make a difference especially in close elections. Look at the impact Ross Perot, Pat Buchanon and Ralph Nader have had on past elections? Bob Carr will spoil McCain's day and Ralph Nader always has the potential of being a spoiler to either major party but usually a bigger impact on democrats.
jelsey
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Jul 24 2008, 11:39 AM) *
QUOTE (wildblue @ Jul 24 2008, 10:57 AM) *
To me, and this is only my opinion mind you, it's glaringly obvious that the mainstream media as a whole tends to treat McCain with kid gloves.

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They have to, or else he'll break a hip or something.
jelsey
QUOTE (CleverNameGoesHere @ Jul 24 2008, 11:51 AM) *
I don't like either candidate. I will probably vote for some third-party candidate and make no difference whatsoever in this election, except that maybe if enough other people vote for third-party candidates, some day in the distant future we'll get out of the two-party mindset?



Please, PLEASE don't throw your vote away.

Instead of voting for a 3rd party candidate that hasn't a snowballs chance in hell, at least vote for the lesser of the two evils.

Please!
wildblue
QUOTE (jelsey @ Jul 24 2008, 02:17 PM) *
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Jul 24 2008, 11:39 AM) *
QUOTE (wildblue @ Jul 24 2008, 10:57 AM) *
To me, and this is only my opinion mind you, it's glaringly obvious that the mainstream media as a whole tends to treat McCain with kid gloves.

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They have to, or else he'll break a hip or something.


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Ithlilian
Question: Have you seen the Obama attack ad that seems to blame Obama for high gas prices? Someone explain to me where they get that idea from? It's not a very good slam ad if it's not even close to being based in reality, makes you look stupid. But hey, maybe there is a basis for it, let me know if you know smile.gif
changeisgood
QUOTE (Ithlilian @ Jul 24 2008, 03:42 PM) *
Question: Have you seen the Obama attack ad that seems to blame Obama for high gas prices? Someone explain to me where they get that idea from? It's not a very good slam ad if it's not even close to being based in reality, makes you look stupid. But hey, maybe there is a basis for it, let me know if you know smile.gif



yes, I've seen that ad. I almost was chuckling when I saw that ad! I wonder sometimes who is in charge of McCain's chances of winning this election. For example, jsut the other day, McCain made a confusing statement backing up his surge in Iraq mistake in front of the cheese section in a supermarket. Cheesy?

I think its also funny how some conservatives blame the media for ignoring McCain. Maybe they should be blaming him for canceling two press confreneces and town hall meetings the other day. laugh.gif

McCain's got another ad out now comparing Fidel Castro to Obama. laugh.gif

I'm glad this guy ain't my candidate. Nothing personal, but don't want another 4 years of McCBush. I understand Obama won't be perfect either, but heck, his policies and strategies are what we should have been doing years ago. Obama 2008
Ithlilian
It's nice that Obama is preaching change and all, but what change, and how do you plan on accomplishing that. I hear that both candidates are going to fix the economy, and how exactly are they going to do that? What do they hope to accomplish in 4 years that the democratic majority couldn't accomplish in 8?

Man, JBurrs sounds like a better candidate for president, at least he is explaining how he would like to accomplish things, and listing some steps.

Maybe in Obama rallies they talk about how Obama plans to do things, I wouldn't know, I can't listen to all that mumbo jumbo. When are the debates on, closer to Nov I guess?
changeisgood
QUOTE (Ithlilian @ Jul 24 2008, 06:12 PM) *
It's nice that Obama is preaching change and all, but what change, and how do you plan on accomplishing that. I hear that both candidates are going to fix the economy, and how exactly are they going to do that? What do they hope to accomplish in 4 years that the democratic majority couldn't accomplish in 8?

Man, JBurrs sounds like a better candidate for president, at least he is explaining how he would like to accomplish things, and listing some steps.

Maybe in Obama rallies they talk about how Obama plans to do things, I wouldn't know, I can't listen to all that mumbo jumbo. When are the debates on, closer to Nov I guess?



You are exactly right. I totally agree with you. I'm anxious and can't wait for the debates between McCain and Obama. Many postions, goas, timelines, steps, etc. are listed on their own campaign websites. However, the debates should be more invigorating and interesting. Even though I'm voting for Obama, I understand he is still a politician. I agree with his stances on policy, I know he won't be perfect, but realize he has the potential and energy to get Healthcare legislation passed among some things. Roanld Reagon was a good president and so was Bill Clinton. Bush has erased all this country has accomplished over the years. U.S.A has been BUSHED....... :angry:
Ithlilian
So you voted for Kerry then? laugh.gif

I don't know, neither candidate is sticking out to me as especially good, so I'll go with republican.
wildblue
QUOTE (changeisgood @ Jul 24 2008, 04:42 PM) *
For example, jsut the other day, McCain made a confusing statement backing up his surge in Iraq mistake in front of the cheese section in a supermarket. Cheesy?


Heh, The Daily Show played part of that statement with the caption "Mac and Cheese." laugh.gif
Idiot
QUOTE (wildblue @ Jul 26 2008, 09:14 AM) *
Heh, The Daily Show played part of that statement with the caption "Mac and Cheese." laugh.gif



Speaking of the Daily Show, have you been watching Obama Quest?
PhilPhanatic
Now how come I'm just seeing this now. Why not when Reverend Wright was going off?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-r4QasWEbY
changeisgood
QUOTE (Ithlilian @ Jul 25 2008, 06:53 PM) *
So you voted for Kerry then? laugh.gif

I don't know, neither candidate is sticking out to me as especially good, so I'll go with republican.


So your in favor of the North American Union? 4 more years of McBush? BushMcCain 2008 for president. laugh.gif Please vote reupublican, there gonna need every vote they can get this year in order not to be an embaressment to Sean Hannity. 4 more years.....4 more years.....4 more years....... This is a democratic year.
Udmas
North American Union rolleyes.gif

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PhilPhanatic
QUOTE (changeisgood @ Jul 27 2008, 05:21 PM) *
QUOTE (Ithlilian @ Jul 25 2008, 06:53 PM) *
So you voted for Kerry then? laugh.gif

I don't know, neither candidate is sticking out to me as especially good, so I'll go with republican.


So your in favor of the North American Union? 4 more years of McBush? BushMcCain 2008 for president. laugh.gif Please vote reupublican, there gonna need every vote they can get this year in order not to be an embaressment to Sean Hannity. 4 more years.....4 more years.....4 more years....... This is a democratic year.


Some of you young people need to go back to school and study a bit harder.
wildblue
QUOTE (Idiot @ Jul 26 2008, 12:13 PM) *
QUOTE (wildblue @ Jul 26 2008, 09:14 AM) *
Heh, The Daily Show played part of that statement with the caption "Mac and Cheese." laugh.gif



Speaking of the Daily Show, have you been watching Obama Quest?


Yep, funny stuff! biggrin.gif
coma
This isn't about Obama, but its a trailer for Oliver Stone's film about Bush called W. Posting it here since the thread is active. smile.gif

http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/w/teaser-trailer
jburrs1715
QUOTE (Ithlilian @ Jul 24 2008, 06:12 PM) *
It's nice that Obama is preaching change and all, but what change, and how do you plan on accomplishing that. I hear that both candidates are going to fix the economy, and how exactly are they going to do that? What do they hope to accomplish in 4 years that the democratic majority couldn't accomplish in 8?

Man, JBurrs sounds like a better candidate for president, at least he is explaining how he would like to accomplish things, and listing some steps.

Maybe in Obama rallies they talk about how Obama plans to do things, I wouldn't know, I can't listen to all that mumbo jumbo. When are the debates on, closer to Nov I guess?


If McCain wants to win he's going to have to do a better job surrounding himseelf with people more in touch with the average person as well as some real strategist. What has allowed Obama to get so far is his charisma and the people he's surrounded himself with capability to raise campaign finances. I don't think fixing the economy is as difficult as people believe it is especially at the federal level. Unfortunately if the federal government don't do their part making viable economic decisions then the impact on state and local economies can be devastating.

I think McCain needs to focus more on his experience strengths and actually being involved in government during periods where the military needed to rebuild. Obama is very vulnerable regarding military and veteran affairs and McCain should really have a better strategy exposing that weakness simultaneously showing his superiority in this area.
Mrs. Golbblog
I am confused, is Bush pushing the North American Union? I may of nodded off. I reopened the thread and sae references to the NAU. Just asking? huh.gif smile.gif

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President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy.

Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA politically, setting the stage for a North American Union designed to encompass the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada.
jburrs1715
QUOTE (Mrs. Golbblog @ Jul 28 2008, 09:55 AM) *
I am confused, is Bush pushing the North American Union? I may of nodded off. I reopened the thread and sae references to the NAU. Just asking? huh.gif smile.gif

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President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union, effectively erasing our borders with both Mexico and Canada. This was the hidden agenda behind the Bush administration's true open borders policy.

Secretly, the Bush administration is pursuing a policy to expand NAFTA politically, setting the stage for a North American Union designed to encompass the U.S., Canada, and Mexico. What the Bush administration truly wants is the free, unimpeded movement of people across open borders with Mexico and Canada.



Similar to the European Union is my guess.
coma
QUOTE (jburrs1715 @ Jul 28 2008, 09:52 AM) *
If McCain wants to win he's going to have to do a better job surrounding himseelf with people more in touch with the average person as well as some real strategist.

Yeah, like knowing the price of milk, for example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16bdiY7L17M
Snoopy
QUOTE (coma @ Jul 28 2008, 11:35 AM) *
QUOTE (jburrs1715 @ Jul 28 2008, 09:52 AM) *
If McCain wants to win he's going to have to do a better job surrounding himseelf with people more in touch with the average person as well as some real strategist.

Yeah, like knowing the price of milk, for example.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16bdiY7L17M

Yeah, playing the Price is Right with groceries is a test every candidate should be put through. rolleyes.gif
digital1nk
QUOTE (jelsey @ Jul 24 2008, 02:18 PM) *
QUOTE (CleverNameGoesHere @ Jul 24 2008, 11:51 AM) *
I don't like either candidate. I will probably vote for some third-party candidate and make no difference whatsoever in this election, except that maybe if enough other people vote for third-party candidates, some day in the distant future we'll get out of the two-party mindset?



Please, PLEASE don't throw your vote away.

Instead of voting for a 3rd party candidate that hasn't a snowballs chance in hell, at least vote for the lesser of the two evils.

Please!
coma
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Jul 28 2008, 11:44 AM) *
Yeah, playing the Price is Right with groceries is a test every candidate should be put through. rolleyes.gif

I don't think The Price is Right had cue cards. biggrin.gif

With McCain's recent criticism against Obama for not visiting wounded troops in Germany (something McCain also did not do when he was in Europe in March), I thought this was interesting. It's a shame, because I really liked McCain back in 2000, but he has really shifted from being a moderate Republican.

http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2...mal-voting.html

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John Sidney McCain's abysmal voting record AGAINST our troops

McCain votes AGAINST our combat troops ...

5/2008: McCain voted AGAINST the Webb GI Bill.

9/2007: McCain voted AGAINST bill to minimize periods of time between deployment of units sent to Iraq. http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_cal...&vote=00341

5/2006: McCain voted AGAINST $20 Million to VA for health care facilities. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00111

4/2006: McCain voted AGAINST $430,000,000 to VA for Medical Services. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00098

3/2006: McCain voted AGAINST increasing Vet-medical services $1.5 billion in FY2007. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00041

3/2004: McCain voted AGAINST increasing Vet-medical care by $1.8 billion. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00040

10/2003: McCain voted to TABLE an amendment for $322,000,000 for safety equipment for USforces. "Table"= vote never hits floor. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00376

10/2003: McCain voted to TABLE a vote for $1 Billion for National Guard and Reserve Equipment in Iraq dueto:shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, & tactical vests. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00116 http://capwiz.com/vva/e4/cinfo/?id=157301
Old Griz
QUOTE (coma @ Jul 28 2008, 02:35 PM) *
QUOTE (Snoopy @ Jul 28 2008, 11:44 AM) *
Yeah, playing the Price is Right with groceries is a test every candidate should be put through. rolleyes.gif

I don't think The Price is Right had cue cards. biggrin.gif

With McCain's recent criticism against Obama for not visiting wounded troops in Germany (something McCain also did not do when he was in Europe in March), I thought this was interesting. It's a shame, because I really liked McCain back in 2000, but he has really shifted from being a moderate Republican.

http://thepoliticalcarnival.blogspot.com/2...mal-voting.html

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John Sidney McCain's abysmal voting record AGAINST our troops

McCain votes AGAINST our combat troops ...

5/2008: McCain voted AGAINST the Webb GI Bill.

9/2007: McCain voted AGAINST bill to minimize periods of time between deployment of units sent to Iraq. http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_cal...&vote=00341

5/2006: McCain voted AGAINST $20 Million to VA for health care facilities. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00111

4/2006: McCain voted AGAINST $430,000,000 to VA for Medical Services. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00098

3/2006: McCain voted AGAINST increasing Vet-medical services $1.5 billion in FY2007. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00041

3/2004: McCain voted AGAINST increasing Vet-medical care by $1.8 billion. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00040

10/2003: McCain voted to TABLE an amendment for $322,000,000 for safety equipment for USforces. "Table"= vote never hits floor. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00376

10/2003: McCain voted to TABLE a vote for $1 Billion for National Guard and Reserve Equipment in Iraq dueto:shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, & tactical vests. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll...&vote=00116 http://capwiz.com/vva/e4/cinfo/?id=157301



If you research those votes a bit more you will find that he voted against them because of the amount of pork that had been added to the bills that had nothing to do with helping service men and women.... but a whole lot with spending a lot of our money on projects that some representative wanted in his state...
Ithlilian
QUOTE (PhilPhanatic @ Jul 27 2008, 07:31 PM) *
QUOTE (changeisgood @ Jul 27 2008, 05:21 PM) *
QUOTE (Ithlilian @ Jul 25 2008, 06:53 PM) *
So you voted for Kerry then? laugh.gif

I don't know, neither candidate is sticking out to me as especially good, so I'll go with republican.


So your in favor of the North American Union? 4 more years of McBush? BushMcCain 2008 for president. laugh.gif Please vote reupublican, there gonna need every vote they can get this year in order not to be an embaressment to Sean Hannity. 4 more years.....4 more years.....4 more years....... This is a democratic year.


Some of you young people need to go back to school and study a bit harder.


I hope you aren't referring to me Phil. I don't necessarily see watching the news as equivalent to studying in school. I did enough studying while I was in school, I'm done with that smile.gif

Sure, 4 more years of Bush, why not? I voted for him didn't I? I doubt McCain is going to win, but I will still vote for him. A republican is what I want in office because I'm a republican. Therefore, a republican president will be most aligned with my views. But, by all means continue to spout off with the anti-McCain stuff, it's amusing.
PhilPhanatic
Not referring to you.
Idiot
QUOTE (Ithlilian @ Jul 24 2008, 06:12 PM) *
It's nice that Obama is preaching change and all, but what change, and how do you plan on accomplishing that. I hear that both candidates are going to fix the economy, and how exactly are they going to do that? What do they hope to accomplish in 4 years that the democratic majority couldn't accomplish in 8?



What "democratic majority" would that be? The Democrats have had a majority in Congress for 2 years. Before that the Republicans had it for 12 and they controlled Congress AND the White House for 6 of the last 8 years. Democrats haven't controlled both for 6 consecutive years since the 60s.
Ithlilian
2 then laugh.gif
Tony Campello
for everyone griping about the Republicans being in control for so long. Now you want the other side of the coin? McCain should get elected that way there is a little bit of check and balance. Our government only workd when you have checks and balances.
Idiot
QUOTE (Tony Campello @ Jul 29 2008, 05:47 PM) *
McCain should get elected that way there is a little bit of check and balance. Our government only workd when you have checks and balances.



So... I take it you voted for Gore and Kerry.

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