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PandorasBox
Yuck x2!!!

Sick for the Johns... Pity for the girls... Sad, sad, sad for those unborn babies...

Two women were charged with prostitution in Camden County on Thursday after they were arrested in a sting operation at a Lake Ozark hotel last week.

Two other women were also arrested, and three of the women are pregnant. Alexandra Wells and Allysia Waldrop were both charged on Thursday. Waldrop is pregnant, but is not known if Wells is also.

The undercover bust went down at a Lake Ozark area hotel after the sheriff's department received several reports that pregnant women were advertising prostitution on an internet advertising site.

One of the women arrested was eight months pregnant, another six months pregnant, and another was three months pregnant. They ranged in age from 18 to 22 years old.

Ithlilian
The 12 year olds on the maury show that love to have sex with 100s of men say that they will sell their bodies to pay for their child, it's no big deal to them.
SmokeChaser
The Maury Show, now there is a source to site for information. This is truly a very sad deal. Makes you wonder what kind of life these girls had growing up, and what life holds in store for their babies. Makes me want to hug my little girl that much more.
SMan
I have to admit, if I'm off or working evenings, I'm always watching Maury while I'm working out. :shame:
Suzie
I always look to Maury when I need a little pick me up! I love the baby mama drama!!! Although the Steve Wilkos show is starting to hook me in! He's such a tough guy!!!
momof3
I have such mixed feeling on this.
(1) I feel they should have their children taken away from them at birth. It shows how irresponsible and careless they are. Makes one wonder what type of parent they will turn out to be and thats very scary.
(2) but then again, I dont know what they are going through to make them do something like this. So I almost feel bad for them.

Either way ....it's just plain gross.
siriunsun
The children cannot be taken away at birth. These mothers have the constitutional right to raise their children, just like the parents at the "yearning for zion" ranch do. This is assuming that the lifestyle of a prostitute and the lifestyle of a responsible parent can somehow become compatible and not lead to neglect and abuse.
momof3
QUOTE (siriunsun @ Jul 31 2008, 12:40 PM) *
The children cannot be taken away at birth. These mothers have the constitutional right to raise their children, just like the parents at the "yearning for zion" ranch do. This is assuming that the lifestyle of a prostitute and the lifestyle of a responsible parent can somehow become compatible and not lead to neglect and abuse.


Your right and I understand that, but they are acting negligent before the child is even born. Like I said I have mixed feelings. I dont know what their situation is.
Ithlilian
Mothers that smoke and/or drink while pregnant should also have their children taken away by your train of thought. I agree with what SS said.

When did I say I was looking to the Maury show for information? On the Maury show there are teenage girls that want to get pregnant and some that prostitute for money to raise their kids etc. I don't think it's scripted so I feel ok using it as an example. Maybe I'm taking what you wrote the wrong way though...
PandorasBox
I feel sorry for the girls who are out there in a dangerous "profession" selling their bodies to strangers. I am sure that no one grows up & decides they want to choose prostitution as a means of income & earrning a living. I cannot imagine what circumstances have brought them to where they are now.

I also feel sorry for the unborn child - being brought into a world that they did not choose. And the challanges on all levels that they have a stong possibility of facing.

I do believe the women should be given a chance. But - I do not believe, statisically, that these women will change their lifestyle in order to become a responsible, caring parent. Living on the street or in homeless shelters or with others of the like & adding a newborn in the mix would not be a very good foundation to start a mother/child bond.

My hopes would be they would do the right thing if they plan to continue their current lifestyle & give the baby for adoption. There are so, so many people & couples in this country that long for a family and children that will never happen for them.

I think who angers me the most is the sick men (sorry all HM males - not that any of you would do anything of the sort!) that would actually pay money to do the deed with a woman who has a belly bulging & stretching with a baby & not even thinking these women more than likely have no idea who the baby daddy is????
samy0
QUOTE (Ithlilian @ Jul 31 2008, 05:39 PM) *
Mothers that smoke and/or drink while pregnant should also have their children taken away by your train of thought.


I don't personally know where her train of thought was going but don't you think this might be a stretch? I seriously doubt if that was where she was going with this.

I was born in the 60's and I'm pretty sure my mother smoked and enjoyed an occasional glass of wine. I don't know if she had all the facts or knew that she might be causing harm but I dont think I'd lump her in with a teen prostitute when it comes to who should have parental rights and who shouldn't.

I agree that everyone has the right to spawn without government interference but if the mothers lifestyle directly puts the child or for that matter the fetus in danger I would have no problem with social services snatching the child away from the mother and giving it a better chance at life.

I have no data to back this up but I would venture to guess that the rate of disease, chance of addiction, and chance of a violent act being perpetrated on them would all go up dramatically to any child being born to a teen prostitute.

And I agree with Pandora that the "johns" are really the ones that should be made an example of. I think the penalties should be stiffer for "johns" using underage and pregnant prostitutes
siriunsun
Pandora.......in theory, adoption would sound like good solution to all this, but; do you know what a child usually endures and what condition a child is usually in before adoption becomes an option? For a newborn, it is usaully being born a crack baby or being born with disabilities because of std's that make him/her legally adoptable at all. Otherwise, there is usually a court/DHHR battle for custody. The ones that are even available for adoption are the ones that are automatically rejected for obvious reasons. And if we make it easier to take children away, then we will have to police DHHR and the courts a lot more and make sure that new laws are only applied to protect children, not for political or other personal reasons, such as spite toward an innocent mom or a dislike of the parents' religion.

Why do we accept such behavior from the men involved? Why, historically, has it been ok for a male to "sow wild oats"? Why is it ok to disrespect some of our daughters in such a way but protect the rest of our daughters? Perhaps everyone needs to get a new perspective before anything truly changes.
Ithlilian
I don't know what turns someone to prostitution but I don't know that their babies should be taken away from them.

Yes it IS a stretch about drinking and smoking, but I thought taking the babies away was a little extreme so I thought I'd be extreme too smile.gif I was taking the train very far from the station.

I was going to say that I don't see how having sex is damaging to the babies, but the drugs and violence that probably come along with the prostitution are damaging, as you pointed out. Good point.
Mrs. Golbblog
QUOTE
I think the penalties should be stiffer for "johns" using underage and pregnant prostitutes

QUOTE
Why do we accept such behavior from the men involved?
(when it involves sex & dangerous acts with underage girls. It is disgraceful to think of men "johns' hooking up with pregnant girls, OMG)
I added the part in parenthesis

Both trains of thought cut to the core of this dead-end nightmare of an existence. Well put you two.
The entire concept of kids being prostitutes and then leaving their new babies at home and going out at night to work the streets, is depressing. Who, and what quality of person, is left to watch these babies/toddlers at night? Not to mention if a teen is hooking while pregnant. She has no control over the "John' and if he gets violent. That would put the unborn child at risk. Random sketchy sexual partners increase the odds of potential risks. Beatings or STDs, so sad for the unborn child and girl prostitute. The "John" is in control, he is paying for whatever HE wants. Sick.

It is sounding like a bad after-school special or lifetime movie.
Heather
I thought a prostitute getting pregnant would be bad business? She might as well have a neon "no vacancy" sign around her neck. Are they that dumb to not realize they'll attract fewer clients? There's a fraction of men out there with a fetish for that kind of thing though, maybe these girls serve as a special brand those types of customers.

People will always pay for sex. I say sterilize the prostitutes, keep them on a medical plan of routine checkups from The Doc and make it legal. At least that way it would be as safe and clean as possible.
SMan
QUOTE (Heather @ Aug 2 2008, 04:35 AM) *
People will always pay for sex. I say sterilize the prostitutes, keep them on a medical plan of routine checkups from The Doc and make it legal. At least that way it would be as safe and clean as possible.



The problem with this idea is that most prostitutes aren't educated Ashlee Duprees banging governors for thou$and$, they are drug addicted street walkers who wouldn't go to the doctors unless they were handing out bags of drugs or money. And if you try to get the government involved to regulate and tax it, these same addict prostitutes will still operate outside the law for the quick buck and fix.
Ithlilian
Why not legalize marijuana while we are at it dry.gif it will put less people in jail, or something, I don't know what rationale do people give for that?
Heather
QUOTE (SMan @ Aug 2 2008, 09:28 AM) *
QUOTE (Heather @ Aug 2 2008, 04:35 AM) *
People will always pay for sex. I say sterilize the prostitutes, keep them on a medical plan of routine checkups from The Doc and make it legal. At least that way it would be as safe and clean as possible.



The problem with this idea is that most prostitutes aren't educated Ashlee Duprees banging governors for thou$and$, they are drug addicted street walkers who wouldn't go to the doctors unless they were handing out bags of drugs or money. And if you try to get the government involved to regulate and tax it, these same addict prostitutes will still operate outside the law for the quick buck and fix.

I don't know, what of the client base? If given a choice, would people rather pay for safer, healthier sex or the drug-addled crack whore? I don't know who the typical person is that pays prostitutes for sex. Maybe if it were legal, a large section of the client base would leave the crack whores alone and go for the healthy option leaving the crack whores to find some other disgusting way of making money.

Or maybe, just maybe, if we had any faith in humanity, the crack whores would allow intervention and accept a life of legal prostitution where they get health benefits to include help with their addictions. They could replace their drug addictions with sex addictions.

Okay, I know that's just silly, but in general, when I think about prostitution stings and people going undercover to bust them, it's just insignificant compared to the other things the time and effort could be used for. Of course I'm coming from a totally naive point of view and I don't get to (or want to) see pregnant crack whores begging for some loser's attention for a quick veiny trip to crackville.

Maybe the legalization wouldn't help those prostitutes that are already a lost cause, but maybe the girls and guys (?) heading in that direction would instead choose the legal route. Maybe it could be a fork in the road for some. Someone starts down the path, down on their luck, getting into drugs, hanging around with the wrong types, maybe at some point they would have an option: go legal and be better off or go illegal and be the worst of the worst.

I don't know. I guess prostitutes should be considered a dumpster and that's that.
Heather
QUOTE (Ithlilian @ Aug 3 2008, 05:42 PM) *
Why not legalize marijuana while we are at it dry.gif it will put less people in jail, or something, I don't know what rationale do people give for that?

That's a completely different thread, goofus! laugh.gif
SMan
Yeah, start a thread on it and I'll give you my rationale. biggrin.gif
CleverNameGoesHere
QUOTE (SMan @ Aug 4 2008, 08:55 PM) *
Yeah, start a thread on it and I'll give you my rationale. biggrin.gif


ooh! intriguing!


I'm one of those bizarre people who have watched shows like HBO's "Cathouse" and read John Irving novels (which ALWAYS seem to feature stretches of story set in Amsterdam, with lots of seemingly accurate legal prostitution depicted) and actually think that prostitution should be legalized and regulated consistently and thoroughly. Those women in NV at the Bunny Ranch and the Chicken Ranch get frequent medical checkups, and they're in a very safe environment. I'm sure that in your typical non-featured-on-HBO legal brothel, it's not all sunshine and rainbows like on "Cathouse", but I still think that people are going to indulge in prostitution whether it's legal or not. Might as well make it somewhat safe and taxable. Personally I would never have gone into it even if it were legal (would you take classes at HCC to get a good entry-level position? laugh.gif ) but I don't think it should be illegal, and there are other more pressing crimes being committed which would be better addressed by cops who have to spend so much time on prostitution now... And I'm sure there are lots of attractive women who enjoy sex with no relationship attached, and who would love to subsidize their educations or whatever by entering into a mutual agreement with a guy who has money to burn.
heyceeo
These chicks dont look like crack ho's. If they advertised on the net they were attracting fetish guys and probably getting pretty good $. Anyone see the 2 1/2 men episode where Allen was all ga-ga over Bertas pregnant daughter? Yep the Bunny Ranch where its legal does good business. Way cheaper than trying to tip a stripper outa her shorts.... biggrin.gif
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