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Anyone have any experiences with this rescue? I work with a lady who's dog was taken from her yard to the rescue and her dog was "adopted" in a day. The dog had on its collar with id and the lady who runs the rescue never called to say they had her dog. After a long complicated mess and getting the police involved, she got her dog back.
Any time I've seen her at Petsmart, etc. the dogs were always dirty and in poor shape. I understand she was trying to do a good thing, but she didn't keep the proper records, try and return dogs to their owners, had too many dogs, etc.
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I've never had any experience with that particular rescue organization, but I got my current dog from a rescue organization in Dauphin, PA, and it seemed a lot like the WV one.
The rescue group I talked to was 2 sisters. The animals were kept at the sister's place who lived outside of the village, and she was a little wack-wack, if you ask me. We went to her house, she let the dog out so that we could see her, and then when we said we were interested, she put the dog in her van, and we followed her to her sister's house in the village. We weren't allowed to touch the dog until we got to the sister's house in the village. That's where the paperwork and transfer was done.
They had already put a chip in the dog and tattooed her ear - with THEIR name and phone number. I was a bit offended by that, but I wanted the dog.....
Besides, where we live, most vets won't have the equipment to read the microchip, and given a choice between my local phone number on her collar or the long distance number in her ear, they will most likely call mine.
Do most rescue groups work this way, or is it as I thought - a couple of overly protective animal lovers?
The rescue group I talked to was 2 sisters. The animals were kept at the sister's place who lived outside of the village, and she was a little wack-wack, if you ask me. We went to her house, she let the dog out so that we could see her, and then when we said we were interested, she put the dog in her van, and we followed her to her sister's house in the village. We weren't allowed to touch the dog until we got to the sister's house in the village. That's where the paperwork and transfer was done.
They had already put a chip in the dog and tattooed her ear - with THEIR name and phone number. I was a bit offended by that, but I wanted the dog.....
Besides, where we live, most vets won't have the equipment to read the microchip, and given a choice between my local phone number on her collar or the long distance number in her ear, they will most likely call mine.
Do most rescue groups work this way, or is it as I thought - a couple of overly protective animal lovers?
"Do most rescue groups work this way, or is it as I thought - a couple of overly protective animal lovers? "
Most rescue groups are like the SPCA. These ones that do it themselves are a little strange. The thing that really gets me is the adoption fees that Second Chance charges; usually over $100 for a dog. She also doesn't have a shelter like you see at the SPCA; the dogs are just all together in the yard. They get into fights, etc. and some get hurt.
Most rescue groups are like the SPCA. These ones that do it themselves are a little strange. The thing that really gets me is the adoption fees that Second Chance charges; usually over $100 for a dog. She also doesn't have a shelter like you see at the SPCA; the dogs are just all together in the yard. They get into fights, etc. and some get hurt.
$100? Wow - I might have been ripped off - I paid $300! But the dog was microchipped, spayed, tatooed, and up to date on her shots. She came with a crate, too. I figured if I had to pay a vet to do all that, I'd pay $300, so I went with it.
These women made me sign paperwork that I'd never leave her in a pen outside, and that if they pulled a "surprise inspection", they would take the dog back and I'd get none of my money back. We both work and the dog tears the house up if she's in the house by herself for more than 4 hours - I HAVE to put her in the pen during the summer.
These women made me sign paperwork that I'd never leave her in a pen outside, and that if they pulled a "surprise inspection", they would take the dog back and I'd get none of my money back. We both work and the dog tears the house up if she's in the house by herself for more than 4 hours - I HAVE to put her in the pen during the summer.
QUOTE (sheash @ Jul 18 2004, 08:10 PM)
$100? Wow - I might have been ripped off - I paid $300! But the dog was microchipped, spayed, tatooed, and up to date on her shots. She came with a crate, too. I figured if I had to pay a vet to do all that, I'd pay $300, so I went with it.
These women made me sign paperwork that I'd never leave her in a pen outside, and that if they pulled a "surprise inspection", they would take the dog back and I'd get none of my money back. We both work and the dog tears the house up if she's in the house by herself for more than 4 hours - I HAVE to put her in the pen during the summer.
These women made me sign paperwork that I'd never leave her in a pen outside, and that if they pulled a "surprise inspection", they would take the dog back and I'd get none of my money back. We both work and the dog tears the house up if she's in the house by herself for more than 4 hours - I HAVE to put her in the pen during the summer.
A surprise inspection??? geez... Talk about self-empowerment.
It sounds like they should be members of OSHA, or Parole Officers on the side...
We live in a cruel world where people take joy in harming animals. Surprise inspections and high fees are normal. It takes a lot of money to take care of these pets until someone adopts them.
I once found homes for entire litter of kittens. I didn't conduct surprise inspections. I wouldn't have given the kitten to anyone had I thought they wouldn't take care of it. One owner was away on work detail for weeks at a time and someone else checked in on the kitten. I was told the kitten was hurt. I went to the place to see for myself and the kitten couldn't walk on one of its legs. I took it to the vet and they told me the kitten had several breaks in its one leg that were over three weeks old. Come to find out the person's son kicked it shortly after they got it. The cat has been with my parents ever since and he still has pins in his leg. I felt so guilty. I wish I would have surprised them with an inspection. Then the kitten wouldn't have gone three weeks with a broken leg.
It infuriates me when people coo and cuddle baby pets and simply HAVE to have them then complain and get frustrated when the pet acts like a pet. "Oh this puppy is adorable. I must have two." Months later, "these dogs have got to go. They bark all the time. They poop in the yard. They chew and destroy everything." You wanted a puppy. That's a puppy for you. People act stupid like they hadn't realized that puppies bark, chew and poop. If you don't have the time and patience to care for animals, don't get them.
On a different subject...Sheash, I hope that when you pen your dog outside that you protect her from the elements of harsh weather, (blazing sun, frigid cold, etc.) Some people are pretty fierce about not letting pets outside, but I don't see a problem with it as long as the pets are kept heatlhy and happy. My parents have always kept outside dogs, but they have shelter and protection available against harsh weather.
My parents just got a new puppy. His name is Deacon. Wish I had a scanner so I could post his picture...
I once found homes for entire litter of kittens. I didn't conduct surprise inspections. I wouldn't have given the kitten to anyone had I thought they wouldn't take care of it. One owner was away on work detail for weeks at a time and someone else checked in on the kitten. I was told the kitten was hurt. I went to the place to see for myself and the kitten couldn't walk on one of its legs. I took it to the vet and they told me the kitten had several breaks in its one leg that were over three weeks old. Come to find out the person's son kicked it shortly after they got it. The cat has been with my parents ever since and he still has pins in his leg. I felt so guilty. I wish I would have surprised them with an inspection. Then the kitten wouldn't have gone three weeks with a broken leg.
It infuriates me when people coo and cuddle baby pets and simply HAVE to have them then complain and get frustrated when the pet acts like a pet. "Oh this puppy is adorable. I must have two." Months later, "these dogs have got to go. They bark all the time. They poop in the yard. They chew and destroy everything." You wanted a puppy. That's a puppy for you. People act stupid like they hadn't realized that puppies bark, chew and poop. If you don't have the time and patience to care for animals, don't get them.
On a different subject...Sheash, I hope that when you pen your dog outside that you protect her from the elements of harsh weather, (blazing sun, frigid cold, etc.) Some people are pretty fierce about not letting pets outside, but I don't see a problem with it as long as the pets are kept heatlhy and happy. My parents have always kept outside dogs, but they have shelter and protection available against harsh weather.
My parents just got a new puppy. His name is Deacon. Wish I had a scanner so I could post his picture...
"$100? Wow - I might have been ripped off - I paid $300! But the dog was microchipped, spayed, tatooed, and up to date on her shots. She came with a crate, too. I figured if I had to pay a vet to do all that, I'd pay $300, so I went with it."
Most of the ones I looked at from Second Chance at Petsmart had a price of $150 - $200. The most I've ever paid at the local SPCA was $80 and then around another $100 - $150 for spaying and shots. Most of the dogs I've seen from Second Chance were already spayed/neutered when they got them and had been previously owned by someone (and they still had their old owners information on their tags - I thought this was strange). I agree its expensive to care for these animals, but $300 to adopt a dog is a bit ridiculous.
"These women made me sign paperwork that I'd never leave her in a pen outside, and that if they pulled a "surprise inspection", they would take the dog back and I'd get none of my money back. "
In the beginning, she didn't even keep paper work, so I guess she has improved. I've never heard of a "surprise inspection" by a shelter; never got one from the SPCA.
Most of the ones I looked at from Second Chance at Petsmart had a price of $150 - $200. The most I've ever paid at the local SPCA was $80 and then around another $100 - $150 for spaying and shots. Most of the dogs I've seen from Second Chance were already spayed/neutered when they got them and had been previously owned by someone (and they still had their old owners information on their tags - I thought this was strange). I agree its expensive to care for these animals, but $300 to adopt a dog is a bit ridiculous.
"These women made me sign paperwork that I'd never leave her in a pen outside, and that if they pulled a "surprise inspection", they would take the dog back and I'd get none of my money back. "
In the beginning, she didn't even keep paper work, so I guess she has improved. I've never heard of a "surprise inspection" by a shelter; never got one from the SPCA.
We got our dog from the SPCA in Montgomery county when we lived in Germantown and it was a bigger deal than my last job interview. We had to make a "donation" of $200. Of course I don't think we'd have gotten the dog if I told them I wanted to donate any less. We had to fill out a nine page questionnaire, telephone interview, home inspection, home inspection with the dog, Q&A with all family members and finally a follow up visit 90 days after. The only good part is that after jumping through all those hoops I must say it is the best dog we have ever owned and she loves it up here. Going from a 10X20 yard to 3 acres has done wonders for her. Now if i could get all the stray cats to stop having kittens in my yard I'd be in business. Between the wife and kids we will be "The crazy cat people" before its over
Sounds like $300 was a fair price, then. I had rationalized to myself it was, but it's good to hear second opinions like that.
Heather, when she's in the pen, she's right comfortable, I believe. It's a 6X6X4 pen (plenty big enough for a 10 pound mini-poo), underneath the walnut tree, with a tarp over the roof for protection from the sun and rain. She's got a dogloo inside of it with several of her toys and one of our old blankets. And of course, she's got a bucket of water and some food. She always goes in willingly, and of course, she shoots right out as soon as we get home.
Maybe I'm being over confident, but I don't think these ladies could find us if they DID pull a surprise inspection; our address is a P.O. Box, and we're off the beaten path. However, if they did, I'd fight them to the death for that doggie!
Heather, when she's in the pen, she's right comfortable, I believe. It's a 6X6X4 pen (plenty big enough for a 10 pound mini-poo), underneath the walnut tree, with a tarp over the roof for protection from the sun and rain. She's got a dogloo inside of it with several of her toys and one of our old blankets. And of course, she's got a bucket of water and some food. She always goes in willingly, and of course, she shoots right out as soon as we get home.
Maybe I'm being over confident, but I don't think these ladies could find us if they DID pull a surprise inspection; our address is a P.O. Box, and we're off the beaten path. However, if they did, I'd fight them to the death for that doggie!
Nobody wants to see animals abused or neglected. But some of this interview stuff sounds over-the-top to me. I hear some places won't let a farmer get a dog because the dog would have to sleep in the barn or won't let a family get a dog if the yard is not fenced. I guess it is better for the dog to be killed. 
We got our dog from the WCSPCA in...uh...1989 I think. They let us have her the same day after a few questions and one call to a reference while we were there -- they said they bent the rules because they "could tell we were a good family".
We got our dog from the WCSPCA in...uh...1989 I think. They let us have her the same day after a few questions and one call to a reference while we were there -- they said they bent the rules because they "could tell we were a good family".
A "mini-poo"? A miniature poodle, I'm guessing? 
QUOTE (Heather @ Jul 18 2004, 09:15 PM)
It infuriates me when people coo and cuddle baby pets and simply HAVE to have them then complain and get frustrated when the pet acts like a pet. "Oh this puppy is adorable. I must have two." Months later, "these dogs have got to go. They bark all the time. They poop in the yard. They chew and destroy everything." You wanted a puppy. That's a puppy for you. People act stupid like they hadn't realized that puppies bark, chew and poop. If you don't have the time and patience to care for animals, don't get them.
I couldn't have said it better myself! This is a HUGE issue - more than people realize. That's why they won't sell baby chicks around Easter time - or puppies around Christmas time (at least in some organizations). People think they're so cute and then don't want all of the not-so-cute stuff that goes along with owning a pet.
One good thing about being a dog-owner is it sorta preps you for having kids... So, if you are thinking about having a child, try a doggie first. lol
So, if you are thinking about having a child, try a doggie first. lol
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A "mini-poo"? A miniature poodle, I'm guessing?
Yeah, Heather, a miniature poodle. Doesn't affect the allergies. Which is good, because the hay in the goats' pen does.
As far as doggies preparing one for having children...... I've got one kid, 1 grandkid and 1 on the way, a dog, 2 pygmy goats, and an "old goat" (husband). Some days I'd rather turn in the kid, the grandkids, and the husband, and get more dogs and pygmy goats!
My neice recently adopted a dog from second chance (just before the judge ordered her to move her dogs). The dog was in such bad shape, her and her husband couldn't let the dog go back home with her. The first thing that bothered her was that you can not go to the Second Chance rescue to see the dog; she meets your some place "neutral". She says its to prevent undo stress on the dogs. The dog was sick and had something wrong with her eyes (can't remember the name). The lady told her that she had already paid to have the surgery performed on the dogs eyes, but my neice's vet had to perform the surgery. So either the second chance lady lied or her vet lied to her and didn't perform the surgery.
My neice has a friend who works for the SPCA and the lady from second chance has had charges brought against her for abusing the dogs, drugging them, not providing proper living arragnements, stealing dogs that are currently owned to "adopt" them out, etc. My neice believes that her dog was drugged when they got her.
This lady has money and is politically connected and I guess that's how she is able to get away with the terrible things she does.
My neice has a friend who works for the SPCA and the lady from second chance has had charges brought against her for abusing the dogs, drugging them, not providing proper living arragnements, stealing dogs that are currently owned to "adopt" them out, etc. My neice believes that her dog was drugged when they got her.
This lady has money and is politically connected and I guess that's how she is able to get away with the terrible things she does.
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